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Kommentar von TehDang

Incredible rogue item right here! Mace spec rogues will enjoy the added stun on top of their already 5% chance to stun. Other specs of combat will enjoy it for the constant +melee dmg and the stun as icing on the cake. Not to mention builds involving backstab or mutilate with the % dmg modifier stacking on top of the +3 Melee Damage bonus.

I have yet to see a better meta gem for pvp.

Kommentar von 18109

Anyone know if it does work in Cat form for Druids ?

+3 melee dmg means +42 AP in cat form (1.0 speed). I'm afraid it doesn't.

Kommentar von 18255

No.

What it means is that in your entire gearset, you need at least a minimum of the listed color of each gem socketed into your gear in order for the metagem to function.

For example, if you want this gem to function you need a minimum of 5 of each color gem socketed into your gear in order for the gem to work. If you dont meet the requirements the gem's abilities dont function.

Kommentar von 22009

cutting these on Bonechewer for only 100g!! (your gem)
pst shiftymalone in game. 1hr cooldown so 1st come 1st serve! =D

Kommentar von Qurt

Anyone know how long time its stun?

Kommentar von 14709

I was super-pumped for this gem (being a dw enhancement shaman) when I saw it pre-bc, but 3 weapon damage equates to roughly 16 ap (2.6 speed mainhand/offhand) and the proc chance on the stun is 1%. Meaning 1 out of every 100 hits (mathematically) would proc this 1 second stun.

The boot enchant/meta combinations below would be tons better (assuming all other enh shamans value 108% runspeed as much as me):

Enigmatic Skyfire + Boar's Speed - 12 crit, 9 sta, 5% root/snare resist, runspeed
Powerful Earthstorm + Boar's Speed - 18 + 9 = 27 sta, 5% stun resist, runspeed
Swift Skyfire + Surefooted - 24 ap, 5% root/snare resist, 10 hit, runspeed

Keeping in mind that a.) all Boar's Speed enchants could be replaced with Cat's Swiftness (6 agi/runspeed) and b.) cost was not taken into consideration when writing this, as this was written to show other enhancement shamans what was out there, not neccessarily what they could afford.

As the game is now, I will be striving for the Powerful Earthstorm + BS combo for PvP myself as certain class(es) make stun resists and mass sta neccesary for survival in PvP, but when they get the balances they deserve I'll end up with Swift Skyfire + Surefooted.

Hope this helped!

Kommentar von 25092

Requirements are a bit hefty.

The red and yellow gems are pretty easy to get but the blue ones are a bit ahrd, to the extent that if you did get enough green/purple ones your dps would be nerfed to such an extent that the +3 damage wouldn't even make up for it.

The stun effect is hax tho, I cant wait til i have enough socketed items to chuck one in my outfit.

Kommentar von 29562

Anarkix, if you have a 2.6 speed mainhand and off-hand, you should attack once every 1.3 seconds on auto attack. You're then gaining the +3 damage benefit every 1.3 seconds, or 2.31 DPS. On auto-attacks, 2.31 DPS is roughly equivalent to 32 AP, so don't discount this gem so quickly.

Kommentar von 11612

Has anyone tested to see if it works for ranged attacks?

Kommentar von 37022

The stun works in cat form (and other forms too), so pretty good for a feral druid imo.

Kommentar von DeadRomeo

The Requirements should read "Requires at least 5 Red gems, Requires at least 5 Yellow gems, Requires at least 5 Blue gems"

Kommentar von 34089

With a 2.6 speed MH and a 1.5 speed OH, you get +1.2 dps and +2 dps, so this will increase your autoattack dps by 6. Also, since SS = 40 energy and you get 20 energy per tick, you can SS once every 4 seconds after you hit the bottom. This gains you .75 dps. So the +damage gives you a total of +3.95 dps.
The stun proc lasts 1 second, which is relatively inconsequential, and has a 1% proc rate, which is relatively rare. On the whole, this is a decent gem, but the +damage gives about 4 dps on top of what you already do (in crappy blues I can easily get 400 dps without cooldowns), and the stun proc isn't worth getting it for. Not worth 150-200g IMO. And wasting 4 gem slots that could have been used for +hit is not good.

Kommentar von Solander

Confirmed. The stun does proc for feral druids in cat form. Dueled a moonkin between arena matches and it procced twice in the same duel. Will try and grab a screenshot of the combat log later. The log just states "%t is affected by Stun" in white. Something along those lines.

Kommentar von Pingone

1% chance to stun the target for 1 second, with mace specc and a deep thunder this is ace for a warrior, it would also be a very nice gem for a mace specc rogue with dual maces. Some of you might think its a rip with only 1% for 1 sec stun but tbh it all adds up to quite a frequent stun if you have the right specc for it. Also the melee damage increase is rather nice.

Kommentar von 62430

Can anyone confirm that this stacks with mace proc, or does it proc independantly of it?

Kommentar von BoddAH

Most Rogue friends I know, most Warriors and most of you theorycraft how nice this would be stacked with Combat Mace spec or Warrior Mace Spec/Deep Thunder proc. However I believe this would quite suck in practice, and here's why:
The 1sec stun of this gem triggers your "uncontrolled stuns" diminishing returns, cutting an incoming 3sec Mace Stun proc in half.
Basically if this procs first you burn a valuable 3 sec Mace Spec stun and get a 1sec stun instead, on top of that, 3dmg is not very interesting if you're Mace specced Rogue, and even worse if you're a 2 Hand Mace Warrior.
This gem is far better with daggers, you get alot more from the +3dmg, and since the stun is 1% based, it will proc more often with daggers than with maces and will not affect your other stuns.
Combat rogues should get one of the other gems.
18sta/5%stun Resistance (coupled with Nerves of Steel) is a good choice for PvP, Thundering Skyfire is probably best for PvE.

To make it simple and clear, just keep in mind that this doesn't just add 1% to your Mace Spec, it's funny how everyone seems to assume that. It is a 1sec stun, independent from your spec, that triggers the diminishing returns on your longer, more useful Mace Spec stuns...

Kommentar von 67969

So my mace stun with thunder does 3 sec stun but with this gem it adds 1 sec to my stun to make it 4 sec or is it its own stun and if so for how long and whats the proc % on it.

Kommentar von Leafblower

I recently put this gem into the merciless dragonhide hood. So far I am very disappointed. The +3 dam is nice for cat form (46.2 AP) but not so good for bear (18.5AP). The stun just doesn't go off often enough to make this gem worth it imo.

PvE, bosses can't be stunned, so its no good there.
And so far in PvP since tuesday I have only had the stun work in my favor 2 times. The other times I have seen it proc were on a near dead opponent.

I will leave it for the AB weekend and keep an eye on it, but I think I am going to start farming for the Powerful Earthstorm(http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25896)

If they upped the proc % (to ~5%) or the duration (3-4 secs) it might be worth getting then, but as is its barely noticeable.

Kommentar von 40159

This is possibly the best DPS gem available for cat form feral druids. +3 damage works out to 42 AP, beating out Swift Skyfire Diamond. Cat form's special attacks all have huge multipliers on the melee damage (Mangle: 130%, Shred: 192% x 130% more from the Mangle debuff = 249.6%!). Thundering Skyfire Diamond's haste doesn't help your yellow damage at all.

The only drawback is that there's no actual AP, which helps your Rip and Ferocious Bite.

Kommentar von Mulletude

The value of this gem to mace specialized arms warriors is not in the duration of the stun so much as the fact that it interrupts spells and completely screws casters.

Another thing to consider is that if you are proc'ing enough stuns to worry about diminishing returns you're probably winning.

Compare this gem to what warriors have to give up in order to have this, namely 5% snare resist and +hit, and it makes me pretty happy that I had the foresight to make my warrior a gnome, even though escape artist sucked for the longest time. I don't think there is a bigger class/race dropoff between gnomish warriors and other warriors in the game except for possibly dwarf priests.

Kommentar von 33985

Here's a summary:

This is best for fast hitting melee classes, because of how +weapon damage works
This will greatly improve skills that have high modifiers (e.g. Backstab, Ambush, Mangle).
The proc is 1% chance to stun for 1 second, and its range is 5 yards (Melee)
The proc will trigger the uncontrollable stuns diminishing returns timer (Unconfirmed)

Who benefits the most from this:

Dagger rogues (All specs)
Feral druids (Cat)
Fury warriors (Dual wield + fast weapons)
Enchantment shamans

edit: As for fury warriors they benefit a lot from +AP, so a slow hitting fury warrior may not benefit much from this

Kommentar von 99689

1% stun with a 1 sec sounds like crap but being an enhancement shammy with no stuns when this goes off it can easily turn the tide of a fight.

Kommentar von 15174

This seems to have no hiden cooldown since it proced twice in 5 seconds.

Kommentar von 100627

I never notice when this procs, is there an addon I can use to tell me when it does?

Kommentar von 157431

This trinket do Not share cd with any other stun thingys i know off,
i got a Deep Thunder, + Mace talents + Meta gem Stun all in one ans same Hit,
and this meta gem, Can Go off from aoe'ing melee hits,
i stood with two feral druids and a holydin on me, when i cleaved, whirwind'ed, cleaved, all 3 attacks hitted the pala and all 3 proced some sort of stun, damn i would whine if i die in bear form to a warr with a holy pala in my back xD

Thu this dont share Cooldown, it Does Share DR, its a !@#$ty MS gem, thu the feral druid both in pve and pvp has Great use of it.

and wtf were you guys talking about with the shaman, we all know that shamans are 2xslow weapons, the fury warrior ?, i would still take the 3% crit dmg, since a decent fury warr has about 30-40% crit and after WW got boosted i'll take two slow weapons in as fury

Kommentar von 23277

http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Madmortem&n=Dabelya

Food for thought.

Currently, as 2k+ enh shammy I run swift skyfire + surefooted... but the stun proc sounds so sexy...

Kommentar von Sahtra

So would this be useful in PVP for a Warr build, that consists 5/5 in Mace Spec, and is DW?

Kommentar von 241152

This gem is utter crap for PvP. all classes have stun duration reducers, usually 15 or 30%. A stun this small will:

Not be noticed

Trigger dimining returns for stuns you actually use

The 3 damage added is completely negated in the bursty, 20 second fight that is PvP.

EDIT: wut, why do HoJ last 3.5 seconds? doh, meta gem self rape.

Kommentar von 364441

I am wondering if anyone who is Arena savvy could tell me if the Brutal Earthstorm Diamond Meta Socket would be a good choice for Rogues competing in the Arena?

Kommentar von Inf1337

I've just tested it in bear/cat forms and it works !
you could use it for interrupting SPELLCASTING at least.

Kommentar von 624455

Does this work on level 85s? Does this have DRs?

Kommentar von bwappo

Tested today on a combat dummy with my level 20. The stun procs on average once or twice a minute, with no ICD. I once saw two stuns back to back. But much more frequently, I won't see a stun for 1.5 to 2 minutes at a stretch. The +3 melee damage isn't working i.e. isn't showing as adding to my weapon dps on my character sheet, and not appearing to impact my damage numbers.

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