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Kommentar von 10885

Vigilant on Bloodscalp server go this to drop for them yesterday. Wile grinding LvL 70 mobs in Deadwind pass. our lucky priest won the need roll with a 99. Grats Brise! Thuse mobs seem to have a really high loot table.

~Solok-Vgiliant-Bloodscalp

Kommentar von zushiba

This dagger has the best glow effect in the game, period! Like a red tornado around the dagger that leaves a black cloud behind it.

Just awesome.

Kommentar von Grenden

Dropped off some trash in Steamvault last night.

The dagger procs very frequently and the buff often stacks to 3 and refreshes itself. The proc is a self-buff so it stacks with armor-reducing debuffs on the target and persists through multiple targets.

Kommentar von pertel

Dropped off a lvl 68 demon from illidari point. Doesn't have stats but the proc > stats.

Kommentar von Feona

Dropped off of a Greater Fleshbeast in Karazhan yesterday.
Proc is worth it, for using this dagger (in OH at the least)

Kommentar von 20542

I'm a rogue and use this as my mainhand weapon.
It procs very frequently and in prolonged fight I usually have the buff stacked 3/3. Using slice'n'dice and the attack speed buff from the assassination armor 2-piece set bonus seem to help to keep it up. I dont think it has a hidden cooldown timer om the proc.

With the talent serrated blades it totals a 1655 of armor ignored.
Depending on the targets base armor it will add ~12-15% to your weapon dps. That's....a LOT!
If you can get this wepon, dont hesitate...
peace

Kommentar von Marra

Can somebody put a pricetag on this? How much is it worth buying it for?

Kommentar von 30880

I have seen this blade go for as much as 2000-2500 Gold - But thats on Khaz Modan server.Might vary on different servers.

Kommentar von 29600

It looks exactly the same as the epic 86DPS dagger Malchazeen, dropped by Prince Malchezaar in Karazhan.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28768

It's the same model and the same effect (the red/black tornado).

On another note, it has exactly the same damage range as the Riftmaker epic dagger you can buy from the Keepers of Time at Exalted reputation (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29182)

So if your guild is going karazhan, buying this might not be worth it as the Prince is relatively easy to beat and chances are you will get Malchazeen soon, but if you are just going for PVP and need something to help you on the way to your Arena dagger, then the Night Blade is a good choice. The least it can do is save you endless farming of the Caverns of Time instances to get their Exalted dagger.

Kommentar von 30063

For now I'm mostly going to pvp my rogue with this as my main hand weapon and Ced's Carver as offhand, would this be worth spending a mongoose on? imho yes... but how do you guys feel about it?

Kommentar von 39360

I ended up buying The Night Blade for 1200 gold and in my opinion it was worth it. Raiding wise I am a basic Mutilate and I wield Malchazeen and The Night Blade, MH and OH respectively. With 3 stacks up, its about 11% increase in damage, and with the Serrated Blades talent, an extra 3%. 14 % more damage adds up and easily compensates for the lack of stats on the dagger. I am not PVE mutilate spec yet still easily rock the damage meters, being one of the top 3. Anyways thats my experience. PVE wise I definitely will not replace this as my offhand.

Kommentar von 27334

This dagger looks exactly like the Malchazeen dagger (Karazhan drop). The only difference between the Malchazeen and The Night Blade is a Black enchant TNB has.

Kommentar von 41259

amazing in raids....it always procs and its really good for all the members of the raid...got it for 800g^^

Kommentar von 38711

In the upcoming patch the proc rate has been nerfed. How bad we are yet to know.

Kommentar von 22086

According to the german forums the procrate got lowered from 21% to 6,5%. I didn't run the spreadsheet yet, but i assume that Malchazeen and Gladiator's Shanker are now superior to this Dagger.

Kommentar von Xelopheris

Raid instance loots are once again better than a dagger obtained via a trip to the Auction House.

Kommentar von h0pe

This is getting it's damage range boosted in the patch. New stats - 117-176 damage. Even with it's proc nerf, it will still be a brilliant weapon.

Kommentar von 20928

Does anyone know how much threat the procc causes?

Kommentar von 52157

Dropped off Storming Wind-Ripper, in Elemental Plateau

Kommentar von 54797

It's true it's been nerfed a lot, while I tested it after the patch, it procs 1 fold by killing every 3 mobs (which takes me about 30 seconds in the battle) and that means 30/1.8 plus 2 piece assassin haste effect, lets say, about every 20 hits it procs once. proves that the German forums was right. I say the proc rate is between 5-8%, a lot less than it used to be. I rarely get 2 fold, and only get 3 fold for only twice in a one hour farming. pretty disappointing, I think those use this baby couldn't agree me any more, It was better than the gladiator's, but now it's worse than riftmaker, what a tragedy!

Kommentar von zomzom

Just bought this beuty from AH for 600g.
it procs quite often and its imba when it does

3 stack proc and expose armor = hunters and shammies no armor ;)

Kommentar von mistadabolina

Is it possible to have two of this one?

edit: it doesnt say 'unique' so i guess so?

Kommentar von 48064

does the dagger now still worth over 1k? since the proc has been nerfed

Kommentar von 5617

How good is this dagger in the offhand?
Is the (nerfed) proc good enough in there?
Would a faster weapon (with less DPS) be better in there? (Ie: Lat's Shifting sword)

Kommentar von amaterasu

I think although the dagger's proc rate was significantly nerfed, it would still be a very good weapon to either use in main hand or in offhand.

let's assume for a minute that the night blade only proc once, and it reduce 435 armor...

to evaluate how effective the -435 armor (only proc once) is, let's think about how armor works.

armor translates into damage reduction, and as the armor value goes up, the corresponding increase in damage reduction slows down. this means that for a cloth/leather weare who has 1k to 2k armor, -435 damage reduction means up to 5 percent total over damage reduction, whereas the effect of -435 damage reduction would be less if the target were a plate wearer.

therefore, it would not be wrong to assume in a very general term that the dagger's proc gives you +2 percent (at least) overall damage.

now that we understand what this proc really means, let's evalueate how good this dagger really is even after the nerf .

assuming the 7 percent proc rate, and the scenario thatyou can get one proc off a decent amount of the time and given that your normal white dmaage is about 200-300, so a two percent damage bonus would give you about 6 damage more each hit. this is to assume it only procs once and it does not take into consideration the extra -560(8 armor reduction per level) from serrated blades.

now let's compare it with the Riftmaker which essentially the same DPS but with 21 agility and 20 AP, which gives an overall 41 attack power. understand that 41 attack power translate into 3 total weapon damage and plus a little bit critical strike bonus from teh 21 agility. (every 14.1 AP gives 1 weapon damage)

so essentially, riftmaker gives +3 weapon damage each hit.

and before you decide to reach a conclusion. remember that my analysis of the damage bonus from night blade was based on the damage bonus after damage reduction from armor. whcih means if let's say you do 2k damage from eviserate after armro reduction, the -435 armro will apply to the 2k damage directly and increase it by about 2 percent according to my assuption. now the +3 weapon damage was calculated wihtout considering amror, so taking into consideration the armor damage reduction, the +3 damage would probably be about 1.8 damage bonus each striike.

so in conclusion, i would think consider the night blade is a world drop though very rare, and the riftmaker can only be obtained by running hours and hours of BM, even after the nerf, the night blade is still a wonderful weapon, and if you are looking to progress towards end game raid, this dagger wil definitely make your progression a lot faster.

to me I would really choose the night blade over riftmaker, as the proc has the potential of giving -1300 armor in a long fight, and the nerf might even be reversed as a lot of people are complainning.

of course, i did not include the -10 percent attack speed debuff, i do not consider it to be, for a rogue that PVE, u are supposed to finish the fight quick and not take too much damage, so slow their attack speed in a 15 seconds fight is entirely negligible. although in a 20 minute fight against a boss, it would potentially reduce their dps, but i dont think this is realy a rogue's job, bonus armor/resistence is what reduces the armor, not the minimal 10 percent speed reduction.

in any case, as long as the night's blade is still a BOE world epic, it will still be valueable, maybe just not as powerful as the kara daggers or arena reward weapon, gladiator shanker.

just want to add, people shouldn't consider this to be useless now, it is nerfed but not nerfed to the point it's useless. I know exactly how sad it makes you when this nerf happened, but the point is to look at this nerf this way, the dagger is no longer amazing, it's average amazing. that will make you feel better. hope it helps.

btw, price for any item has a variation, and it depends from seller to seller, buyer to buyer. this dagger can go dow

Kommentar von 27570

This dagger dropped for me off of the first pull (trash mobs) in Botanica last night.
From what I can see, its a pretty nice dagger and according to WoWhead seems to drop everywhere. Ive already got an offer for 1800g, but decided not to sell just yet.

Kommentar von 63785

Dustwood Server, horde side. It dropped for me from trash mobs in Sethekk Halls. I sold it for 1700g, It just depends on the economy of the server.

Kommentar von 41859

hey Pertel, u mean if I kept killing Illidaris in illidari point it may drop for me ? I really need this dagger badly....I check AH everyday, plz help ... :-)

Kommentar von 71624

Dropped for me of a Fire Elemental up in Nagrand, Elemental Plateau.

Talk about lucky.

Kommentar von Pumaroma

Well lucky for me two of these dropped while doing the Hounds of Cromaggus quest. This was before the nerf and I had shelled out to put Mongoose on both. After the nerf, It doesn't proc as much but I didn't notice considering Mongoose procs alot. So up till this day I'm still using these two awesome looking daggers. Waiting on Karazhan drops to replace these but until then, these are my main and offhand for Mutilate.

Kommentar von Beleger

If the dagger's effect is applied, does it stack with sunder armour?

Kommentar von Invellous

This dagger I have owned before and after the so called nerf. Even after the blow the Proc Rate took it still procs rather well. Usually when it does I get 2-3 stacks. It does kind of stack with Sunder Armor and Expose Amor but not really. Both of the skills reduces the armor of foe increasing all damage done by you and the party. But the ignore armor effect won't effect the whole party but will increase your damage. So it's a yes and no anwser. It does however stack with the Serrated Blades talent and any armor or weapon that ignores armor as an Equip Ability. For a Pre-Raid dagger it easily tops the Riftmaker even with it's AP plus just because of it's proc rate and ability. For those who are interested in The Riftmaker I'd strongly advice you to save your gold, it's proc rate is horrific even worse then the Icy Enchant which it can stack with aswell as Thunderclap. So all in all very good Pre-Raid mainhand.

Kommentar von 89718

One of my favorite daggers I've ever used. The proc isn't great for grinding or questing, mostly useful on bosses where you can get a little time to build up the 3 stacks. Good idea to use any damage-increasing trinkets you have when you get the 3-stack. Obviously, no enchants alter the glow of this item (but who in their right mind would want to change it?) Dropped for me in Blood Furnace, probably on normal right after the second boss. Luckily, my group let me roll a need on it. Good day for me. Worth buying if you can afford it, this will be your weapon until raiding.

Kommentar von couper

does it work on ranged attacks ?

doing a bit of theorycrafting here ^^

Kommentar von 15196

couper! omg :p

Kommentar von 15196

btw coup

it doesn't effect ranged attacks

take that!

Kommentar von Silentrogue

I have 2 of these and I have mongoose on the main hand. My dilemma is what would be good enchant to thrown on the off hand one. I have an assassin specced rogue but I did go far enough in the sub tree to get serrated blades for the obvious reasons. Executioner seems to be a good choice or another mongoose? I'm not sure on how all the math works so I do not know which one will give the best output, but before I spend the mats to do either one I kinda want to know which one will help me the most?

Kommentar von 67243

In my opinion I would have to say that I really am impressed with this blade. Unlike prior posts I have found this to stack 2 times in a short fight quite often. While the 2nd proc is normally near the last 20% of health it still shows up. PVP wise it would stack up to 3 for extended fights for a good portion of the the fight. I am thinking that I will try and go dual wield with this eventually to increase my chances for 3 procs during PVE fights.

Right now I am a primarily enhancement shaman running this and the epic dagger from Consortium. In PVE I have found it to be quite effective at increasing damage, especially when windfury procs on top of this proc. In a PVP aspect it was quite impressive as well, I was slaughtering cloth wearers in a short time while this was proc'ing. Though it should be noted I was surrounded by Allies in Crossroads and didnt stop hitting people for 5 - 10 minutes straight :)

Kommentar von 123800

i just got it from a strong junkbox :D

Kommentar von 99790

My friend also have dual wielded them with both Executioner on
them. not sure if thats the best option
but then again its just what u want or like to have as a enchant i think.

Kommentar von sushibar

I just picked one up last night in the netherwing mines I didn't notice what it dropped from, but it was either a flayer or ravager.

Kommentar von 82985

I got this dagger on random world drop from a Crashing Wave-Spirit on the Elemental Plateau in Nagrand...... was pleasantly surprised considering the potential drop-rate.

Kommentar von 127030

I happened to get this on my paladin from the very first Crazed Colossus I killed
Goes for about 1.5k gold on Hyjal-
Wish i had a rogue or something to use it with..it is a sexy piece of gurr

Kommentar von Noosa

Attention rogues, not listed but does drop from strong junkbox. Farming for pots, i got a nice suprise.

Kommentar von 136093

hey with this dagger. does the proc rate work for hunters as well for like their arrows or just when you use the dagger to attack?

anyone know.

Kommentar von 99013

Got this froma strong lockbox i thinkt was-----on stormscale if anyone wants to buy give 'Lespaul' a holler (in game mail) selling around 680g willng to give into other prices maybe---=p depends on how nice you are

Kommentar von 99013

Woa why did someone down rate my post before??

Kommentar von 4749

Would this work as OH for a Hemo-Rogue?
Note: I'm specced 21/0/40

Kommentar von 166795

Is this worth the $ then??...

Kommentar von Fingerboy

I picked this up today while farming the water elementals on the elemental plateau. It was a great supprise. Gonna try to sell it for 1.2kgs. = }

Kommentar von 174603

i got mine from a mob in blade's edge from opening a lockbox. how rare is that?

Kommentar von 149556

Just bought one of these a week ago from a friend kinda cheap. Went on a farming spree and it droped from the Belfs in smv^^. so now i dualwield theae and the buff procs more often while dualweilding than just 1.

Kommentar von 45232

as an Enh Shammy i was just wondering how good is this dagger to DW wid the WF proc and how much of DPS will i putting out, and also does this proc work for grinding.

Kommentar von 131549

No drop for me, but I felt fortunate to purchase this at the AH for 1050g as I was prepared to pay up to 1400g for it. I use this in my Combat Dagger Rogue's main hand, and have the Retainer's Blade (Scryers Exhalted) in the off hand, both buffed with +20 Agility. Once I improve my armor (working on Primalstrike set), I'll buff The Night Blade with Executioner.

Both these daggers are awesome IMHO, especially since I upgraded to both at the same time, dropping my dual wield Crystal-Infused Shivs. I've only had The Night Blade proc once to x3, but that is because most fights are over pretty quickly now. It procs frequently x1, and many times x2, which really, really helps. I can now take on 4 L70 Black Temple Blood Elves at once and down them without issue and without healing.

The Night Blade's glow effect is very, very cool. A red mist trails as you walk, run, ride, and fly, and in this case is further complimented by the red glow of the Retainer's Blade.

Kommentar von dillboy

Just bought one for a 400g bid on Arthas server. Maybe PvP alternatives have lowered the price?

Kommentar von 160168

Don't Mutelilate with it in you're main hand. I'd say it's more valid as an Offhand, and you shud get the Merc shanker in your MH, or serration.

Note: Proc kicks ass.
Note: Don't think it works well on warriors, nothing does. Go subtlety...

Kommentar von 133751

I got it farming fire elementals in Elemental Plateau in Nagrand, trying to sell it for 1,2k gold (i'm a hunter, no use for me to use it) . Instead of 2 motes of fire i got this little friend here.. nice :D.

Kommentar von 223361

I grabbed one off the AH, playing around with armor peeling.
Plan to get a second one.
I set up a macro for my rogue (subtlety) to swap main off/hand weapons from merc slicer/merc shanker -> Night blade/merc shiv. Macro works great, can swap in middle of fight back and forth:

merc slicer/merc shanker ench'd with dual mongoose

night blade/merc shiv ench'd with dual executioner

This wasy I have 2 poison set ups that can swap easily, and can swap to the exec/night blade setup to peel armor then switch back to swords with maybe 3 points, hit slice & dice and dual proc mongoose. Get nice damage this way, discovered myself with highest killing blows & damage (on horde side) after first run in a bg with this little idea :)

Had thought I might grab another night blade, but apparently folks have found the procs don't stack, but then again two might help them build 3/3, with executioner on both that would be a nice peeler.

I'm sure some folks will call FAIL or point this out as invalid, but
it seems to work well, and it sure is fun to play with :)
For folks not used to macros, this is what I used to swap both main/off hand weapons back & forth:

16=Main hand & 17=Off Hand

/equipslot 16 The Night Blade
/equipslot 17 Merciless Gladiator's Shiv
/equipslot 16 Merciless Gladiator's Slicer
/equipslot 17 Merciless Gladiator's Shanker

Kommentar von 217517

I'm thinking of getting this as an offhand for my mutilate rogue, would that work good?

Kommentar von 131549

Note that the proc on this dagger has changed from "Ignores 435 of opponents armor, can stack up to 3 times" to "Gain 62 armor penetration rating..." Discovered this by accident while checking stats in the armory. Will have to research to see if this is a buff or a nerf. I hope it is a buff...

Kommentar von 221943

Armour Penetration is Blizz's new stat, to try and make it even on opponents of all armour levels.

At 70 this gives 62/7.4= 8.3% Armour Ignored
2 Stack = 124/7.4= 16.7%
3 Stack = 186/7.4= 25.1%

Kommentar von 228364

Opened a strong lockbox that was pickpocket from a warmaul ogre in Nagrand. This dagger is just awesome.

Kommentar von bloodclart

its not worth 1k gold now wotlk is out wow needs to be updated.....

Kommentar von Belzebutinov

Just thinking.... but the Librarian's Paper Cutter is pretty much its exact WotLK equivalent - only better: cheap (instead of very, very, very expensive), best in slot until high-end raiding (yes, I know Naxx-25 is more or less easy, but still: until you get Webbed Death, this is one of the best Mutilate dagers out there), and nerfed once blizzard realized it was just too good for what it was ;) (or knew it was very good, and decided that the fun was over).

Kommentar von 337736

does it work in the day?

Kommentar von 422049

In Cataclysm, they need to make a weapon enchant with this glow effect with these details.

20% Chance On Hit to increase Agility, Expertise and Dodge by 50 for 10 seconds as well as encase the enemy in a tornado, preventing the use of any spell cast or attack for 2 seconds and heal the user for 1% of their maximum unbuffed health. Requires an item level of 100 to use. Effect may not stack.

Buff will be called "Obliviosity"

Yes? No? Maybe so?

Kommentar von 582278

i think i dont need it because of the ... heirlooms, Stupid heirloom weapons!

Kommentar von 877590

after 4.3 comes out this dagger is going to be worth a crap ton of gold. it's boe, and it overrides enchant effects, keeping the default glow.

Kommentar von 517981

And I just bought this for 200g 2 days ago. Didn't really know how rare and good looking this is back then. 200g, lucky much?

And no, didn't sell it for 10000g today, keeping it myself :p

Kommentar von 763388

The Night Blade Dual Wield

Kommentar von 939782

I'm willing to sell this dagger for 12k.

Server: Sunstrider EU
Char: Partypooper

I can consider selling it for 10k if u have to migrate or w/e.

Kommentar von 946100

I got this sweet dagger few days ago, was doing the Netherwing dailys and a mob there attacked me so I killed it ofc,
I accidently looted him and saw the dagger in the loot bag. Probably the luckiest moment of my life lol.

Sold it for 40k, idk if it was worth it.. maybe I should've just used it myself since its probably the best looking dagger ingame.

Anyway good luck for people trying to get this, it's really rare.

Kommentar von Kthxbb

I got The Night Blade while I was killing mobs in Netherstorm for a quest back in the day. Anyways, I was kind of sick with the Landslide enchant on my 1st phase daggers so I decided to transmog them. It costed only 2 gold to transmog for both daggers and now instead of having the sun on my toon's hips, I have 2 dark orbs. Definitely suits the rogue style better than bright landslide. It looks way more sinister.

Kommentar von 702541

Ugh I finally found one and had to pay 25k for still better a better deal then the last one I saw sell on Elune-US near the start of 4.3 for 60k kinda sucks I can't use it on my fangs but its good to have it for MOP. I had one waaaay back in BC that I got at level 68 questing in netherstorm never should of sold it way back then.

Kommentar von KaptainKrunk

There comes a point where these glows become a little ridiculous, and we've clearly passed it.

Kommentar von 519868

Nabbed one for 1k today, which certainly makes up for the time I accidentally sold this for the same price. Anyhow, it's basically Malchazeen with a black aura around it, which makes it so enchants don't show up on the blade. I certainly feel more roguish without glowing yellow daggers, that's for sure.

Kommentar von 988502

Had this drop for today while doing some xmog farming in Heroic Mana Tombs and then I got fel barrier. Sold it on illidan US for a cool 25k. Uploaded data via wow head uploader.

Kommentar von 1032837

Just bought this off hydraxis horde AH for 40G, reposted it for 10,000G and it sold before I logged out... cha-ching neeeext!

Kommentar von 1034525

Got this from Alliance AH on Stormrage-US for 2,550g. Looks incredibly sexy with full Blutfangrüstung and either Blutritterkriegsumhang or Illidariumhang.

Kommentar von Kehdgar

As you pick up the dagger a dark cloud wraps its self around the blade. What kind of evil could be encased inside?

Kommentar von 1063073

THANX AH remote ;) snaped it on EU Trollbane fore 45g ;) from my iphone...gona log and give the dude 2k..otherwise i feel like a thief ;)...and i have to much gold anyhow...THIS BLADE ROCKS! ;)

Kommentar von killertofu

This dagger has a very nice transmog effect. Low drop rate and new 5.2 patch will bring the price up more. Imagine your rogue dual-wielding these sweet daggers :)

Kommentar von 1117408

By the looks of it some people still don't realize that since 5.2 it is now transmorgable, just picked one up for 300g :D!

Keep your eyes peeled guys, you might get lucky too.

Kommentar von agentcoco

incredible! i just picked up this sweet item for the low price of 500g! so cool! if you're lucky you might find someone not knowing the items true value. that is when you strike!

-silvermoon(eu)

Kommentar von noDefect

Just had this drop off of the Flayer mobs (can't think of the names right now) while farming Netherwing Egg's in Netherstorm. Doesn't seem to be on the list here for what its dropped by. I'm not sure if it came from one of the big mobs or the smaller guys because I looted them together.

Kommentar von merenhuiske

I just got this today while going to kill last boss in TK for mount. Thanks for 10 000G trash mobs

Kommentar von tanhuangxuebuche

got it from salvaged crate 3

Kommentar von FlynnTheMighty

Just got it in big salvage. Posted it in trade and someone offered 5k so after a bit of thinking I sold it to them. Made the mistake of reading the comments after I sold it. I'm sure I missed out on a lot of gold. :/

Kommentar von Stormborne0

This just dropped from a Dragonmaw Transporter whilst doing Netherwing dailies - a nice surprise!

Kommentar von Volleynova

Worth a lot more than 30,000 gold considering how cool it looks and how rare it is. For some reason I can't seem to sell it.

Kommentar von addmydataz

Just dropped in Karazhan, 9 Feb 2019, in the Servant's Quarters. Looted from either a Greater Shadowbat (1), a regular Shadowbat (several), or one of 2 Phase Hounds that all died in a heap at once. NONE of them are listed here as dropping this item. Was a nice surprise to pick this up, but doubtful it would sell for more than 2-3K, certainly not the price listed on WoWhead of 221K+ gold. Might have a Rogue friend who will want it.

Kommentar von Vasiliski

If anyone is still interested, it dropped from Sunwell Plateau trash before Kalecgos, I was clearing it for Tailoring recipe. so its still obtainable

Kommentar von SpicyDennis

Dropped in the black temple

Kommentar von Smythu

Dropped for me in Sethekk Halls Normal on Trash

Kommentar von Someguy827

Just had this drop from a strong junkbox. Just goes to show you should always check things that give loot.

Kommentar von Timmond

Dropped for me in Sunwell Plateau from the first trash area, from between the entrance and the ramp to the first boss.

Kommentar von Fuzzywuzher

Just dropped for me from a Crimson Hand Battle Mage in The Eye

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