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Kommentar von athika

Teilt sich die Abklingzeit mit Transmutieren: Pyriumbarren, Transmutieren: Lebende Elemente, Transmutieren: Urwasser zu Urluft

edit: Teilt ebenfalls die Abklingzeit mit Wildblut

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Kommentar von selvin

Does this make Blacksmiths torturers then? I don't think the courts are going to look kindly upon this....

Kommentar von Hemingray

So that's where the Warglaives of Azzinoth really came from!

Pandaren Blacksmith: Some guy in a blindfold came by the other day and asked me to make him a couple weapons. *yawn* I asked him for some payment up front, but he said he was not prepared. *shrug*

Edit: When this comment was posted, it was listed as a "reagent for" the Warglaives of Azzinoth.

Kommentar von Walterion

You can already see these being expensive the first weeks into the expansion, so as a suggestion, start switching into transmutation spec and let all that money flow into your capitals.

Kommentar von Dagothur6

Now we wait for the T-1000 recipe...

Kommentar von jareena

Living steel in shape of a coffin? Ironic...

Kommentar von pthor1234

As of 5.0.3 beta patch, there are 2 ways to make Living Steel now:

- 1 day CD + 6 Trillium bars.
- 3 Trillium bars and 3 Spirit of Harmony and ignores the day CD - Stahlherstellung (Thanks Aliok)

This change is similar to tailoring and inscription for Imperial Silk and Darkmoon cards, respectively.

Edit - Do note, that in addition to being used for the usual crafting type mats, this will be required (and the only required material) for Gürtelschnalle aus lebendigem Stahl (Gürtelschnalle aus lebendigem Stahl). This is a significant departure from WotLK and Cataclysm belt buckles, which only required raw materials, and no transmutes. This will possibly help keep the value of Living Steel healthy well into the expansion.

Kommentar von Superchief

Looks to me like it's a bad idea to have multiple transmute alchemists in MoP when you can save resources doing Riddle of Steel instead with only ONE alchemist regardless of his mastery. It would be a perfect niche just like Truegold is in Cataclysm if only the transmute was available but now Riddle of Steel means we can just buy cheap botter-gathered materials from the AH and make as much Living Steel as we need. There won't be a competitive market for Living Steel with this Riddle of Steel option available, at least not after the first couple weeks.

Best bet in my opinion is make those alts learn a profession with a valuable cooldown.

Kommentar von kromtar

The riddle of steel option requires BoP mats that are a rare drop so there will be no buying of mats from botters for the transmute with no cooldown. Value should stay high enough on these for a little while, at least until enough people complain and they end up making the spirits BoE in 5.1 or something.

Kommentar von Walterion

Living steel is now the requierement for the ''Transmutation Master'' quest. You need 4 units of it.

If you are reading this now, in 5.0.4, you need to wait till MOP releases in order to be able to do it.

Kommentar von dpr9

F*ck sake. Are you kidding me? Now I can't change alchemy specialization until MoP?

Kommentar von mredig

In raw materials, this will take (for the non living spirit ones)

12x Schwarzes Trilliumerz
12x Weißes Trilliumerz

Hopefully you have access to a miner!

Kommentar von PriestessAur

For alchemists wanting to transmute for your daily cooldown, you will need to:

Start with 120 Geistereisenerz (6 stacks)
Smelt (with a miner) Geistereisenbarren x 60
Transmutieren: Trilliumbarren x 6
and finally, Transmutieren: Lebendiger Stahl

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To create a Living Steel without a cooldown, you will need to:

Start with 60 Geistereisenerz (3 stacks) and 3 Geist der Harmonie
Smelt (with a miner) Geistereisenbarren x 30
Transmutieren: Trilliumbarren x 3
and finally, Stahlherstellung

Kommentar von DisRuptive1

Living Steel<--6 Trillium Bars<--60 Ghost Iron Bars<--120 Ghost Iron Ore
Living Steel<--6 Trillium Bars<--24 Trillium Ore

I needed a ton of Living Steel. Since the only way to make it involved Trillium Bars and an alchemist, I had to find a way to get as many Trillium Bars as possible (and an alchemist who would sell me their daily transmute cooldowns). There are two ways to obtain Trillium Bars, transmuting Ghost Iron Bars, or smelting Trillium Ore. Both of those methods happen to require you farm lots of Ghost Iron Ore in the most efficient way possible. I'll explain how.

In order to get Trillium Ore nodes to spawn, you have to give them some place to spawn. Trillium nodes share nodes with Ghost Iron (in specific zones). If the Ghost Iron spawned in the node, none of the other spots within that node will spawn Trillium. You have to mine the Ghost Iron ore and hope Trillium respawns.

To do this in the most effective way possible, you want to mine out the node, go do something else (such as more mining) while waiting for the node to respawn and then come back to the node after it has respawned. Hopefully it will be Trillium. If not, you start over, mining out the Ghost Iron, going to do other stuff, and then coming back to the node.

Based on my ore counts, I'd estimate Trillium nodes spawning 6% of the time or 1 in 16 nodes. Plenty of people will probably recommend routes that take you all across a zone to find these few Trillium Ore nodes. However, these routes aren't efficient. If you intend to farm up Trillium Ore, you need to mine the fewest nodes possible the maximum times per hour. What I'm saying is instead of mining 100 different nodes twice per hour, mine 10 different nodes 20 times per hour. Every node respawn is a chance at getting Trillium Ore to spawn. Assuming every node in your route started out as Ghost Iron, 19 respawns at 10 sites is 190 chances at getting Trillium ore to respawn. Going all around the zone mining everything in sight gives you only 100 chances at getting a Trillium respawn.

This is my route

My route brings in roughly 9 Ghost Iron Ore per minute or 27 stacks per hour. This is approximately 4 and a half bars of Living Steel in materials per hour. Any Trillium deposits you find will only increase your yield.

My route starts in the Tu Shen Burial Ground. There are hostile mobs in the area, but most of them won't bother you and will be busy fighting friendly NPCs. Because of these hostile mobs, a lot of people don't farm here. They see and hear the clashing of swords of the hostile mobs and skip the area. After you've mined out all of the nodes in the area, you have about 30 seconds before the nodes start respawning again. Quickly head up to the Five Sisters, mine up any unprotected nodes and then head back to where you started and start all over again.

Kommentar von Smeller

My only complain about Living Steel is that you need ridiculous amounts of it to craft crappy epics. If they would halve the Living Steel requirements for these ilvl 476 items or scale it up to ilvl 489, it should be good again.

Kommentar von TigerToes

These are selling for 1,500g on my server.

Kommentar von Zaizo7

It is beyond me why they give the ability to make this to Alchemist when the only ones who use it are Blacksmithing, Engineering and Jewelcrafting all professions that already need mining why add another profession for them to rely on.

Kommentar von paloxy123

how can you train the recipte of living steel ?

Kommentar von Joefesok2

"I don't mind being smacked in the face by a heavy iron hammer and turned into someone's armor at all, thank you for asking."

Kommentar von athika

Shares the the cooldown with Transmutieren: Pyriumbarren, Transmutieren: Lebende Elemente, Transmutieren: Urwasser zu Urluft

edit: also shares cooldown with Wildblut

Kommentar von GoldenarmsXXXL

is ANYONE going to tell where you get the friggen recipe from? wow wait to post 100 of the same comments to waste everyones time.

Kommentar von TGFseb15

Expect the demand to rise by a lot once your realm has unlocked stage 4 of Isle of Thunder.

Kommentar von jjwilljr

As already posted, the recipe is discovered while creating other alchemy items.

Kommentar von Swarovsky

I know that it's useless to complain, but anyway - WHY reagent for Blacksmithing and Engineering is crafted by Alchemists? Tailoring and Leatherworking don't need any other profession to make reagents. I understand, that Alchemy also should have something useful for other players, but why just for unlucky ones?
Why don't we get this beautiful STEEL by SMELTING it? /cry

*yes, I don't have alchemy on any of my characters so that's why I am here.

Kommentar von Saucery

anyone else have 7+ transmuters making these everyday? lol

Kommentar von no1reflux

Someone create a tab for a recipe. "Ore" how to craft the item. A solid link with crafterstome site but up to date.
I am to old to remember all this stuff. It has been a long time since I was a level one naked vanilla warrior. Arg.. Arrgg ARRGGG. me pirate laugh to me mates...

A clone of many.

Reflux.

Kommentar von Volleynova

Get Alchemy out of my engineering. Now.

Kommentar von RodneyG007

Where can i find recipe when is WOD 6.0.3. ?

Kommentar von Elysoun

Any bets on when they will remove the cool down for this?

I just made a ton of Truegold (from Cata) for a friend for transmog purposes. I'd like to make some pets and mounts for friends, but have an idea that either they:
- won't remove the cool down until the final patch of this expansion (some something for people to do while we wait), or
- they won't remove the cool down because of the mount and pets.

I think the first is more in keeping with history on this, but wouldn't be surprised if they cool down stayed for years to come.

Thoughts?

Kommentar von kristyldragon

Since it wasn't very clear on how to learn this recipe, thought I would share that the easiest way to get this Transmute is to make a bunch of Verjüngung des Alchemisten or Meisterlicher Heiltrank which are learned from any Alchemy trainer. They are the cheapest of the MoP potions that can give you new MoP recipes.

A half stack (100) of the Teepflanze off auction house if you dont have any tea leaf banked up usually isn't too expensive. I got all the MoP level transmutes and recipes in about 75 crafts worth.

Kommentar von quuky

how do you even get this transmutation i really dont know

Kommentar von metawow

I have quite literally made bank transmuting Living steel with the riddle of steel recipe and transmutation mastery. If anyone wants to make Alchemy as their main profession I would highly recommend doing so.
Here is a neat guide on How to level Alchemy 1-700 completely free and make gold while doing it

Kommentar von vikn

Drastic price surges

For future reference: As I'm writing this we're just over three months into Legion.

Some background
As many already new expansions brings price changes to some older trade goods. Generally the goods of the previous expansion. Roughly speaking, either a previous useful trade goods becomes trash or a trade goods highly farmed becomes scarce and gains an increase in value.

The long term effect of inflation also brings price changes to trade goods.

Main point
Interestingly enough, as I looked over the prices of a number of useful MoP trade goods (two expansions back). I noticed a drastic surge in price coinciding with the Legion release date (September 1th 2016).

Goods as:
Weißes Trilliumerz Schwarzes Trilliumerz Trilliumbarren Geistereisenerz Geistereisenbarren Harmoniepartikel Geist der Harmonie Lebendiger Stahl
All skyrocketed, prices increasing with numbers around 50-150 % across all servers I viewed.

Similar price increases can be seen on some trade goods from other expansions. Though the pattern isn't as clear.

Three additional notes on the subject:

1. This can in no way be explained by inflation as it has not effected other types of items in any similar way.

2. With the release of Legion, wow saw a surge in returning players.

3. The time between the last patch of WoD (6.2) released 2015-06-23 and the launch of the next expansion Legion released 2016-09-01 was exceptionally long. This even caused some backlash due to players complained on the lack of new content.

Speculation

Why? My assumption would be that the drastic overnight changes was largely brought on due to the lack of content in WoD forcing people out into the older zones. Creating a strong supply of such materials. Thus keeping prices down for an extended period of time. And with the burst of content brought by Legion people quickly left the old zones causing supply to fall drastically.

Perhaps the large number of returning players and the implementation of the wardrobe function led to an increased demand for such trade gods. Which down the line often is crafted into transmog or mounts.

Future meaning If this becomes a reoccurring pattern it would be theoretically be possible to double or even triple your gold in just weeks or months by investing in the correct trade goods before the launch of a new expansion.

Your experiences Me personally haven't seen such a clear pattern between a release date and skyrocketing prices (on items unaffected by the release) before. Have you noticed similar occurrences during previous expansions? What do you think is the probable driving force behind it? Can it be mimicked for your gain during future expansions?

Kommentar von Elitecookie

So i have grinded my BS to 500 just so i can get Wiedergeborene Löwenherzklinge which took about 2 days. Waited 4 days for the CD on Donnerstahlbarren each.

Now that i finally had the ingridients for it, i notice that Lebendiger Stahl is only made by Alchemists. Steel made by alchemists. STEEL

And they cost 3-4k on hte AH. A PIECE

Blizz has once more proved they are lazy fkn bastards. Seriously

Kommentar von Grammie

so those who can mine the materials - and the engineers that need material to make things - can NOT create this living steel? am I the only one who sees an issue here? I don't get it

Kommentar von gunsotsu

RIP LIVING STEEL. AS OF patch 8.0.1 added to the shared xmut cool day (meaning you can only make one of these OR one of your current relevant expansion transmutes). i disbanded my account over this.

for those of you who think i'm ridiculous for doing so.. i did the math
to make all the xmog gear, pets, mounts and the reborn weapons JUST FOR MYSELF, without transmute master, or wihtout benefitting from an extra proc would take 360+ days. 360 days.

now, it is going to take probably 3 + years as i have to decide to make a living steel or make a whatever is relevant in the current expansion.

ya..i could go get spirits of harmony.. i already do this on 6 different farms. they are tied up on iron paw tokens, and other things related to finishing the pandaren profession sets.
ya i could pay 1k gold a bar on the ah, but i should not have to. i have all profs maxed out and time to spare.

I SHOULD FREELY BE ABLE TO FUNCTION WITH ALL PROFESSIONS MAXED OUT ON ALL MY 6 DIFFERENT 110S.
i already invest 10+ hours a day in this game, and my reward is a slap in the face.

i have played this game for 10 years.

there is really only one other crafting reagent from alchemy that i know of, related to xmog gear - primal might. that is it..and it does not share a cool down with other xmutes (that i know of) . primal might also does not generate mounts and weapons that sell well on the auction house..it basically just makes old school xmog gear no one cares to even remember.

so yes, i am done. i have cancelled my subscripton. people reading this may think i am ridiculous for doing so, but i don't think so.
i think blizzard is ridiculous for taking an item that is still semi relevant due mainly to the engineering and jewel crafting mounts as well as the reborn weapons and a few decent transmog sets and basically limiting us to making it once a day only if we have 3 spirits of harmony.

like i stated
360 bars just for personal use +

sky golem already took a month (if you did the jards and living steel every day) to make...
i already have almost 9 max level toons pumping out profession mats... can't have alchemy on every one of them..

sorry blizzard, until you put this back the way it was i'm done. it was an irrelevant change to an item that is relevant in the wow economy. PUT IT BACK IMMEDIATELY.

Kommentar von gunsotsu

bars needed to make all xmog gear, pets and mounts just for personal use 360+
time taken to make sky golem just for personal use 1 month

in pathc 8.0.1 a hot fix was snuck in, which became active early yesterday morning. LIVING STEEL NOW SHARES COOL DOWN WITH OTHER DAILY TRANSMUTES.

YA. NO THANKS.
account cancelled.

Kommentar von pat33

DON'T FORGET TO STUDY: Meister der Transmutation with SW/ORG Alchemy trainers to enable a chance for more transmutes on each daily!

Kommentar von EleriaSam

I cant believe no one has mentioned the farm at Half Hill in Pandaria. I needed Living Steel and didn't feel like flying around mining so I went back to my farm on all 12 toons. You can grow Ghost Iron ore and Trillium. If you need Spirit of Harmony for Riddle of Steel you can grow those too. The Best part is theres no flying around looking for nodes. Plant one day harvest the next! All the mats you'll ever need for your Sky Golem. Of course it only really works if you have multiple toons with farms but most people do.