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**Important Update!**

As Dothorio mentioned, after the December 13th, 2011 maintenance, it's become exclusive for Todesritter, Druide, Paladin, Krieger

Some items were recently reclassified. This is one such item, so you might find yourself in possession of one of these items and are no longer able to use it. If you looted an item from Looking for Raid which replaced another and you need Game Master assistance to recover your old item, please place a petition with the new item name, that you can no longer use it - and the old item name you need restored.

More information, and a full list of the affected items, see the Customer Support post.

As a part of the on-going evaluation of Looking For Raid and the loot system, we have recently implemented a change to the Looking For Raid Need Plus system. Weapons, trinkets, rings, neck pieces, shields, offhand items, and the Robe of Glowing Stone are now class-restricted to their intended users. With the speed at which a Raid Finder group moves through a zone, we’ve found that it makes it challenging for players to evaluate loot decisions – by class restricting these items, we hope that the natural behavior will have a more positive set of results for everyone involved. This change will not apply to normal or heroic raid or dungeon loot rules.

Source: Nethaera - Blizzard Entertainment's Community Manager

Kommentar von Frinata

It's an interesting battle choice between this item (The Raid Finder version as I comment on here) and Schleier der Lügen
While the Stamina from Veil is always a lovely smile to any tanks, it's noted that the procc of 4.93% dodge rating isn't guarenteed/forever quite like Resolve's. Resolve's 10 stack dodge is 3.6%, which is indeed lower. But it's consistant so long as you maintain the stacks via smashing your foe's face in. The procc rate on Veil is 20%, and it has an internal cooldown of 45 seconds, combine these two numbers together and that, my fair wowheaders, is a procc rate of once every 58 seconds on average. On personal preference I will use Resolve. But if you are stamina starved and arn't dying for constant dodge, then Veil could be your choice untill you either get normal version Resolve or another trinket that outweighs Veil. Just my two cents on comparrison for those that don't either have the best loot luck in normals, or don't have the time for it

Kommentar von 66849

I've noticed on my warrior that Thunder Clap hits apparently count as melee attacks for this trinket, Shockwave doesn't though. It's nothing major as one can reach 10 stacks pretty quickly with just auto attacks and Devastate nevertheless, but just wanted to throw it out there.
The only situation I could find this useful in would probably be if you had to run away from something for a while and would have lost your stacks before you could get back into melee range if you hadn't used Thunder Clap (10 yard radius with glyph). Having Charge and Heroic Leap makes that situation pretty unlikely, though. Oh well, now you know :)

Kommentar von 526651

As i've found out, a paladin's Avenger's Shield and Hammer of the Righteous DO count as attacks, so it is very easy to stack this up, as a paladin.

See no reason why it wouldnt work for a DK, Druid, or Warrior, too.

Kommentar von rogal

I'm not too impressed with this trinket. There are only three bosses that do lots of physical damage in DS and for two of them the actual mitigation you can hope for is not that great.

On Morchok, a lot of his physical damage comes from Stomp, which I don't think you can avoid.
On Hagara, you should be able to move out of Focused Assault or the other tank can taunt her away. So this trinket only really helps for the rest of her physical damage. It's useless when you are outside running around.
Blackthorn is really the only encounter in DS where this shines.

I know we can swap out trinks but this one is very situational and I prefer something I can use more.

Kommentar von DraconisAerius

Going off my Prot Pally's ctc macro readouts from being unbuffed, to full stacks with this trinket:

Unbuffed: 99.05
10 Stacks from normal mode 403 version: 102.18
Therefore, ctc worth: 3.13

(with 9 stacks (790 ish dodge, making it close to equal to the LFR version) it gives ctc worth 2.83)

Kommentar von 992438

I play a dk, and personally i think their are better items to use in place of this. Still trying to decide on whether to use this or not since Mastery and Stamina seem to be a dks best friend not Dodge and Parry.

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