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Kommentar von regma

Humm. I wonder if there's any relations to the Enigma Berry from Pokemon?

Kommentar von Voxxel

Planting 100 pieces of this seed brought me the results below.

Amount distribution of germinated herbs / (harvested pieces):

Seidenkraut: 19 / (56)
Teepflanze: 17 / (58)
Regenmohn: 23 / (78)
Narrenkappe: 19 / (60)
Schneelilie: 18 / (64)
Goldlotus: 4 / (4)

They're kinda balanced except the Lotus.

UPDATE: With the Patch 5.1, the amount of Goldlotus you can buy for Geist der Harmonie at the Pandaria capitals is reduced to 2 (was 3). In addition to that, the chance that Rätselhafter Samen can germinate into Goldlotus has been increased slightly, making it more efficient to farm through Rätselhafter Samen.

Kommentar von dddmaster

do they require herbalism to be picked up?

Kommentar von raiyana

Harvesting these seeds can also net you living spirits( the herbalists' "health potion")

Kommentar von Azrile

You are much better off planting the songbell seeds and buying 2 golden lotus for 1 spirit of Harmony. Based on at least my servers economy, nothing else comes close to that price. WIth a 16 plot farm, you can get 3.2 golden lotus every day. (about 1k value on my server)(##RESPBREAK##)12##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Kommentar von pepeu

Klangglöckchensamen gives you Harmoniepartikel
Scherwindkaktussamen gives you Windwollstoff
Raptorblattsamen gives you Nebelberührtes Leder or Prächtiger Balg
Rätselhafter Samen gives you Seidenkraut / Teepflanze / Seidenkraut / Regenmohn / Narrenkappe / Schneelilie / Goldlotus
Schlangenwurzsamen gives you Geistereisenerz and sometimes Schwarzes Trilliumerz/Weißes Trilliumerz/Kyparit
Magieknollensamen gives you some Geisterstaub or Mysteriöse Essenz

EDIT: Added Magnificent Hide and changed so Golden Lotus isn't that rare anymore.

Kommentar von 672427

Here is all seeds by Händler Grünfeld

Rep with Die Ackerbauern	Seeds	U get	Rare chance
Friendly	Grünkohlsamen	5x Grünkohl	1-3 Grünkohlsamen
Friendly	Saftigleckere Karottensamen	5x Saftigleckere Karotte	1-3 Saftigleckere Karottensamen
Friendly	Frühlingszwiebelsamen	5x Frühlingszwiebeln	1-3 Frühlingszwiebelsamen
Friendly	Mogukürbissamen	5x Mogukürbis	1-3 Mogukürbissamen
Friendly	Rotblütenlauchsamen	5x Rotblütenlauch	1-3 Rotblütenlauchsamen
Friendly	Rosa Rübensamen	5x Rosa Rübe	1-3 Rosa Rübensamen
Friendly	Weiße Rübensamen	5x Weiße Rübe	1-3 Weiße Rübensamen
Friendly	Jadekürbissamen	5x Jadekürbis	1-3 Jadekürbissamen
Friendly	Hexenbeerensamen	5x Hexenbeeren	1-3 Hexenbeerensamen
Friendly	Streifenmelonensamen	5x Streifenmelone	1-3 Streifenmelonensamen
Honored	Herbstblütensetzling	Herbstblütenbaum
Revered	Frühlingsblütensetzling	Frühlingsblütenbaum
Revered	Rätselhafter Samen	2-5 Random Panda Herbs	Goldlotus
Revered	Magieknollensamen	2-5 Geisterstaub	Mysteriöse Essenz
Revered	Raptorblattsamen	1-2 Nebelberührtes Leder	Fette Eingeweide
Revered	Schlangenwurzsamen	2-4 Geistereisenerz	Weißes Trilliumerz Schwarzes Trilliumerz Kyparit
Revered	Scherwindkaktussamen	1-6 Windwollstoff
Revered	Klangglöckchensamen	Harmoniepartikel
Exalted	Winterblütensetzling	Winterblütenbaum

You can always ask Jogu der Betrunkene "Hey Jogu, what's the word on tomorrow's crops?" and if you plant what he says you get 7 crop instead of 5.

Kommentar von Trogthor

Ever since 5.1, I'm seeing greatly improved "drop rates" for golden lotus with these seeds. I've planted them three days in a row now and gethered three, two and four golden lotus respectively. If you're after golden lotus, it seems these seeds are your best bet again, especially now that the spirit of harmony trade-in has been nerfed to two.

Kommentar von 708773

What i like about planting Enigma Seeds are the LIFE spirit http://www.wowhead.com/search?q=life+spirit

---- they are better than a potion anyday

mojo

Kommentar von 1049090

One thing that changed in Patch 5.1 was the amount of Golden Lotus sold by the Spirit of Harmony vendors, being reduced from 3 to 2 per Spirit of Harmony.

The other change is the increased drop rate of Golden Lotus from Enigma Seeds. Before Patch 5.1, Golden Lotus had a fairly low drop rate, making it more efficient to farm through the Spirit of Harmony Vendors and Songbell Seeds.

After the reduction in the amount you get when trading in Spirit of Harmony and the increased drop rate of Golden Lotus from Enigma Seeds it is now more efficient to plant Enigma Seeds!

One other small change you may not have noticed in Patch 5.1 notes is the Growing buff that tells you how long your crops need to grow before they are ready for harvesting.

Taken from mmo-champion. Seems like these are now one of the better methods of farming Golden Lotus. :)

Kommentar von blatterjr

I've done some additional sampling for the enigma seed yield which encompasses the Golden Lotus increase:

Enigma Seed Farming

Control
Characters Farming = 5
Patches in Each Plot = 16
Days of Collection = 15

Total Harvests = 1200
----

Yield
Green Leaf Tea - 211 (17.6%)
Silkweed - 224 (18.7%)
Rain Poppy - 231 (19.3%)
Snow Lily- 201 (16.7%)
Fool's Cap - 186 (15.5%)
Golden Lotus - 147 (12.2%)

Golden Lotus additional drops 9 (0.008%)

Spirits
Life Spirit - 414 (34.5%)
Water Spirit - 122 (10.1%)
----

Note: Water Spirits only drop for classes with mana; I had (3) mana classes farming.
Note: The Bountiful bags guild perk did not affect farm plot yield.
Note: The lotus drop rate was increase 2-days into this sampling.

Kommentar von pmakaro

In addition to the increased chance of Goldlotus from the Rätselhafter Samen that you sow on your farm since 5.1. The regular herbs grown also benefit from the 5.1 changes. Specifically that all Teepflanze, Regenmohn, Seidenkraut, Seidenkraut, Schneelilie, and Narrenkappe plants have a chance to proc a Goldlotus.

Kommentar von Bearsome

Just to clarify that it IS better to plant Klangglöckchensamen than
Rätselhafter Samen as Blatterjr a few posts above me stated - Just created a new account so I´m able to post comments but for some perticular reason I can´t "respond" on others comments, so making a fresh one here with his quote:

Enigma Seed Farming

Control
Characters Farming = 5
Patches in Each Plot = 16
Days of Collection = 15

Total Harvests = 1200
----

Yield
Green Leaf Tea - 211 (17.6%)
Silkweed - 224 (18.7%)
Rain Poppy - 231 (19.3%)
Snow Lily- 201 (16.7%)
Fool's Cap - 186 (15.5%)
Golden Lotus - 147 (12.2%)

Golden Lotus additional drops 9 (0.008%)

____________________________________

This means he planted 1200 Rätselhafter Samen´s and only got 156 Goldlotus

If he would of planted 1200 Klangglöckchensamen he would of got 1200 Harmoniepartikel wich means he would of gotten 120x Geist der Harmonie. You buy 2x Golden lotuses for 1 spirit wich means 240 Goldlotus.

Simply put:
Plant 1200xRätselhafter Samen and you get around 150x Goldlotus (If your unlucky you get abit less if your lucky you get abit more.

Plant 1200x Klangglöckchensamen and you CERTAINLY (Always) get 240x Goldlotus

Kommentar von 885261

I have planted Enigma Seeds on 12 days now:
192 patches --> 50 Golden Lotus --> 26%
So I am either very lucky, or the yield has been tweaked again.

Kommentar von Luneward

To the below commenter: I don't think the yield rate was tweaked again. I haven't noticed any noticeable change since I started planting herb gardens (since a week or so after 5.1 - between 5 and 7 characters per day). That being said, the numbers do seem extremely low given my observations on my daily yields.

I'm going to have to run a little data collection to verify, but I'm guessing actual yield rate is between 20-25% (You need 20% to break even with motes). I usually see around 3 lotus per garden; sometimes a little less, at least two characters per day tend between four and seven. Only on one occasion I can think of have I seen no lotus at all in a character's garden.

So far it is only anecdotal data, and I'll try to start running some stats on it to verify.

Kommentar von 739701

Ok, so the yield numbers posted here never seemed quite right for me so I collected my own data and got the following:

Total characters: 3
Plots/character: 16
Days/plot: 5

3 * 16 * 15 = 240 total harvests

Total herbs: 469
Total lotus: 83

Avg herb/plot: 1.95
Avg lotus/plot: 0.35

Notes about my collection:
- I have the bountiful bags guild perk (though previous comments indicate this does not matter)
- I never got less than 2 herbs when harvesting an herb plot
- I did not separate bonus lotuses gathered from herb plots vs. actual lotus plots

Kommentar von Luneward

For more confirmation, here are the yield numbers I have been tracking over the past two weeks. Note that yields of golden lotus and standard herbs seem to have not been affected by patch 5.2. I didn't attempt to track the yield of the normal herbs since my intent was merely to determine golden lotus spawn rate.

Total number of plots: 920
Golden Lotus Plots: 273
Normal Plots: 647

Golden Lotus rate: 29.7%
With this size of sample, the error rate is +/- 3%. The last day or two had fairly high rates, so I'm guessing it is closer to 27-28% overall rate. I did not include the extra golden lotus from the normal herbs in this, but I'm guessing it is somewhere from 2-4% droprate on these (probably close to what you would get from normal herbing)

Just an an interesting side breakdown on the frequency of lotus per garden out of 57 herb gardens:
0 lotus: None
1 lotus: 4 (7%)
2 lotus: 2 (3.5%)
3 lotus: 9 (15.8%)
4 lotus: 13 (22.8%)
5 lotus: 14 (24.6%)
6 lotus: 6 (10.5%)
7 lotus: 3 (5.3%)
8 lotus: 3 (5.3%)
9 lotus: 3 (5.3%)

So from my sample, there was a 63% chance of getting 3, 4, or 5 lotus, and about a 10.5% chance of getting less than three.

Basically in summation: You will get close to half again the yield of golden lotus than if you would have just planted songbells.

Kommentar von 542059

Updated for 5.2

Most of us want to know (like me at start) a little bit the drop rate when you plant some of those seed in your farm, I will try to farm those seed for few month to make an accurate post by the time.

After 160 Rätselhafter Samen (4 Beutel mit rätselhaften Samen) and 10 days, see what I gathered,

A total of 435 herb have been collected from 160 seed for an average of 2,72 herb per seed (March 26th)

Teepflanze = 73 or 16,78% of overall
Seidenkraut = 47 or 10,81% of overall
Regenmohn = 88 or 20,23% of overall
Schneelilie = 91 or 20,92% of overall
Narrenkappe = 84 or 19,31% of overall
Goldlotus = 52 or 11,95% of overall

More data in 10 days...

Kommentar von SomeDruid

At first I thought I was going insane, BUT you can (Like all other MoP herb nodes) pick up a Golden Lotus from an Enigma Seed that has turned into something else other then Golden Lotus. (Such as Fool's Cap or Green Tea Leaf)

Kommentar von Saucery

By far the best seed to be planting at your farm
and here's a video guide explaining why.
http://youtu.be/dJzLWdM6h1E

Kommentar von nydas3k

got 8x Goldlotus, lol!

http://i.imgur.com/Y6HudQ5.jpg

Kommentar von dzur

its wierd. i m planting this with 4 of my 90s and drop rate is like this from 16 tiles (also including the extra lotus from picking up another herb):

druid (herbalist-alchemy) : 4-6
paladin (miner-jc) : 3-5
shaman (lw -skinner) : 3-4
and here comes the hunter
hunter (engineer- leveling bs atm) : 6-7! very rarely 5 and never gone below

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