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Kommentar von Burzolog

Currently this item is using the previously unused ingot icon for Kyparite which was unnecessary since Kyparite can't be smelted. This might indicate some connection to Kyparite, or the icon might just be a placeholder.

Edit:
1. It's totally unrelated to Kyparite
2. The icon doesn't look at all like steel
3. The icon doesn't appear to be electrified or in any way related to lightning
4. It went live, so it's not a placeholder icon

So basically I have no idea why they picked this icon except for the fact that it was an existing unused icon. It strikes me as kind of lazy considering that all they really needed to do was add lightning to an illustration of a bar of steel.

Kommentar von pssilva

This item will probably be used on the new Lighting Forge in the Isle of the Thunder King. It'll be used by Blacksmiths to craft end-game armor and items that aren't obtainable anymore, such as Vanilla items, for transmogging.

Kommentar von Stok3d

Donnerstahlbarren is created via a once a day CD of combing 10x Geistereisenbarren. This also provides a chance at discovering one of the below recipes.

BS Recipe Discoveries in 5.2

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See all 350+ Mounts in the game: Mount Collecting: The Completionist Guide

Kommentar von Aquifel

Currently, this is only used to create the reborn Blacksmithing weapons in 5.2 (formerly from Burning Crusade era Weaponsmithing specialization which is not available to new players). Note that all of the crafted items share the same names as their older counterparts but have new itemids, UPDATE: We have itemlinks for the 1st tier of items (those requiring 5x Donnerstahlbarren), currently they are ilvl 463 rare items, they are Bind on Equip, also they are not recolored from their burning crusade versions as of this time, will provide further updates when the rest of the items are in (the main page also has an excellent write up of what is known so far).

Donnerstahlbarren can only be produced once per day, they are also BoP, so it will take you an even 30 days to get each top tier item (my condolences to dual wielders). Currently, creating one ingot requires 10x Geistereisenbarren and the tooltip states 'In the process, you may gain additional knowledge of Ghost Iron, and discover a Blacksmithing plan you have yet to learn.' my guess is that this will be the way we discover these recipes. UPDATE: Notizen über Donnerstahl is the item that you must acquire in order to learn how to make your Donnerstahlbarren, therefore beginning your LONG process towards getting your awesome weapon! The notes themselves seem to be acquired from a quest, Donnerstahl, the quest will be obtained by killing Itoka (Thanks @Dendraki), he will drop a Merkwürdiger Metallbarren, right-clicking on this item will allow you to start the quest if things stay as they are, also when you finish the quest the first time, you get one free Donnerstahlbarren.

Ive provided itemlinks to the classic versions of the items that can be crafted, grouped by the materials required to craft their newer versions, some of the items also require their lesser versions as a reagent, i have marked those along with itemlinks to both the older and newer versions.

5x Donnerstahlbarren 2x Lebendiger Stahl 3x Geist der Harmonie

5x Donnerstahlbarren 3x Lebendiger Stahl 3x Geist der Harmonie

10x Donnerstahlbarren 4x Lebendiger Stahl 6x Geist der Harmonie

10x Donnerstahlbarren 6x Lebendiger Stahl 6x Geist der Harmonie

15x Donnerstahlbarren 6x Lebendiger Stahl 9x Geist der Harmonie

15x Donnerstahlbarren 9x Lebendiger Stahl 9x Geist der Harmonie

UPDATE: Chefingenieur Jards Tagebuch is not for this item, it teaches Engineers how to make a Jards merkwürdige Energiequelle instead, which can be used for quite a few interesting items, including a Himmelsgolem and Pierre, we don't have info as to whether or not the engineering items will require Lightning Steel Ingots for their creation yet, but personally, it seems doubtful to me.

Kommentar von 1084361

Does any1 know if the Ingots require mining 2 be crafted?

Kommentar von RCMK

I can confirm the daily cooldown on crafting this item, however on PTR it seems to share that daily cooldown with making a Jards merkwürdige Energiequelle.

Kommentar von erogroth

Are we also going to learn the new PVP patterns from this? If so it seems our chances to learn them are small compared to other professions who are not learning all the old stuff. Not that I don't want to learn the old stuff but I want the new stuff first.

Kommentar von Zoeteklem

After completion of this quest Donnerstahl, you will be able to make Donnerstahlbarren, you need Geistereisenbarren x10 for this; see Donnerstahlbarren.

For more information on all the new items you can build in 5.2, see Wowheads post here.

Kommentar von dlbert2000

Merkwürdiger Metallbarren drops from Itoka
Itoka is here
After you loot Itoka, go through this door
Then turn the quest in to this book

Your server needs to be on Stage 4 for Itoka to spawn

Kommentar von evilshadow785

if you make it you get new BS plans but does any1 know what plans you can get so far only blue PVP gear for me.

Kommentar von Anidor

Quick math:

Each weapon has 3 stages: Rare - 463, then u can upgrade it to Epic - 476 and final to Epic - 502.

One hand:
Rare - 463: 5 x Donnerstahlbarren, 2 x Lebendiger Stahl, 3 x Geist der Harmonie
Epic - 476: 10 x Donnerstahlbarren, 4 x Lebendiger Stahl, 6 x Geist der Harmonie
Epic - 502: 15 x Donnerstahlbarren, 6 x Lebendiger Stahl, 9 x Geist der Harmonie

Two hands:
Rare - 463: 5 x Donnerstahlbarren, 3 x Lebendiger Stahl, 3 x Geist der Harmonie
Epic - 476: 10 x Donnerstahlbarren, 6 x Lebendiger Stahl, 6 x Geist der Harmonie
Epic - 502: 15 x Donnerstahlbarren, 9 x Lebendiger Stahl, 9 x Geist der Harmonie

To create the final crafted item, in total you will need:

One hand: 30 x Donnerstahlbarren, 12 x Lebendiger Stahl and 18 x Geist der Harmonie

Two hand: 30 x Donnerstahlbarren, 18 x Lebendiger Stahl and 18 x Geist der Harmonie

Because u can create only 1 Donnerstahlbarren each day, that means it will take at least a month (30 days, or 29 days for your first crafted item) to create 502 epic weapon

Edit: Added a table.

Kommentar von bqiyue2

In case someone did not post this before, you don't need to stay in the actual lightning forge to make this item. Any anvil works.

However, making the remake of TBC weapons requires thunder forge, even though tooltip does not indicate that.

Kommentar von AddictedPoi

I was wondering whether these weapons have upgraded versions at all. After gathering all the mats for The Planar Edge, Reborn because I wanted a tanking weapon, I had to go to the Thunderforges to craft it. For crafting it I was taught the plans for Black Planar Edge, Reborn. Both weapons are BOE, they will sell on AH or will be useful for an alt or a guildie. Item levels are just the way wowhead.com says they are.

Kommentar von rokabard

That's a lot of work to make LFR level items, with boring standard itemization (unlike their originals), and no crit on anything.

How disappointing. I think I will save my Ingots with the hope that in the future there will actually be something useful to make as a Blacksmith.

Kommentar von Skullever

I cried quite a bit when I realized it would take me two months to get two top-tier weapons for myself, and that by that time I would have better gear from the next patch anyways...

Kommentar von 857077

Once again theres strength axes, and agi swords. and the enhancements gets leftout on the craftable epic weapons, like in cataclysm during firelands.. Cmon blizzard

Kommentar von T2HSLM

WHY if these bars are similar to titan steel and other special metal bars is someone with mining cant create the bars? seems a bit strange to me. still could put the cd on it. anyone know why?
thx

Kommentar von Lejedifou

There are 38 recipes to be discovered while crafting Lightning Steel Ingots.

32 ilvl 458 PVP items : head, torso, shoulders, hands, waist, wrists, feets, legs x4 each, requiring ghost iron only
6 ilvl 522 PVE items : head and feets x3 each, requiring Living Steel, Spirit of Harmony and Haunting Spirit

Kommentar von JGPenfield

What is the advantage to a blacksmith? The items are bind on equip. A blacksmith can use the lower levels weapons while he/she is gathering the ingots for the next weapon level and still upgrade to the next level. A non black smith requesting the item from a blacksmith has to wait the full 30 days for the final weapon to be made.

Kommentar von animal446155

so sad this is! I also would of like to see polearm revamp ! like 600ilvl polearm with 1.2 speed very fast with 10k dps on hit maybe a 20k with shadow damage or fire something like that ! just downright nasty ! and useable by every class !
so u can put it on AH block for kool gold like make 200g low 2300 high per item !

Kommentar von Jazzycakes2

Still some worth in crafting these bars if you can make 522 equipment, will help boost alts ilvls to get into LFRs - May not be worth their weight as they once were.

Kommentar von 1114777

Thank God he isnt a rare

Kommentar von kimberm

Does any one know if this is still available in WoD ?

Kommentar von Zapph

The recipe to create these is learned from Pläne: Donnerstahlbarren which is a quest reward from Donnerstahl, which is started from Merkwürdiger Metallbarren, a 100% drop for Blacksmiths from Itoka, an easy mini-boss mob on the Insel des Donners. The quest also gives a bonus Donnerstahlbarren on completion. If you drop Blacksmithing and relearn it, you will simply have to kill Itoka again and you can loot the recipe directly from him.

The recipe creates 1 Donnerstahlbarren at the cost of 10 Geistereisenbarren and can only be crafted once per day at any Anvil. You will always learn one of the Haunted Steel / Crafted Dreadful recipes each time you craft an Ingot until you have learned them all, meaning you will need a total of 38 days and 380 Geistereisenbarren to learn all the recipes.

A useful script that will place an icon on your cursor which you can drop into your action bars and allows you to craft from there is:

/run PickupSpell(138646)

Donnerstahlbarren is used exclusively for crafting 6 BoE (3 one-hand and 3 2-hand) "Reborn" weapons which are identical skins to previously removed Burning Crusade Weaponsmithing weapons, with each craft having an ilvl ~~463~~ 116 blue version which can then be upgraded to epic ~~476~~ 116 ilvl and a further upgrade to ~~502~~ 118 ilvl, each costing more mats and each having a slightly different appearance.

Each upgraded version is learned from crafting the previous weapon the first time and requires the previous weapon to be consumed on craft.
Make sure to equip the weapon before crafting the next stage if you want to learn the transmog as it is BoE by default.

Material Costs:

Weapons	Mats to craft:	Upgrade 1	+ Additional mats:	Upgrade 2	+ Additional mats:	Total mats
Wiedergeborene Drachenfaust	5 Donnerstahlbarren 2 Lebendiger Stahl 3 Geist der Harmonie	Wiedergeborenes Drachenmal	10 Donnerstahlbarren 6 Lebendiger Stahl 6 Geist der Harmonie	Wiedergeborener Drachenschlag	15 Donnerstahlbarren 6 Lebendiger Stahl 9 Geist der Harmonie	30 Donnerstahlbarren 14 Lebendiger Stahl 18 Geist der Harmonie
Wiedergeborene Brandwache	Wiedergeborener lodernder Wächter	10 Donnerstahlbarren 4 Lebendiger Stahl 6 Geist der Harmonie	Wiedergeborener lodernder Zorn	30 Donnerstahlbarren 12 Lebendiger Stahl 18 Geist der Harmonie
Die wiedergeborene Planaraxt	Die wiedergeborene schwarze Planaraxt	Tückische wiedergeborene Schneide der Ebenen
Wiedergeborene Löwenherzklinge	5 Donnerstahlbarren 3 Lebendiger Stahl 3 Geist der Harmonie	Wiedergeborener Löwenherzchampion	10 Donnerstahlbarren 6 Lebendiger Stahl 6 Geist der Harmonie	Wiedergeborene Löwenherzrichtklinge	15 Donnerstahlbarren 9 Lebendiger Stahl 9 Geist der Harmonie	30 Donnerstahlbarren 18 Lebendiger Stahl 18 Geist der Harmonie
Wiedergeborene Mondsichel	Wiedergeborenes Mondspaltbeil	Wiedergeborener Blutmond
Wiedergeborener Donner	Wiedergeborener Donnergroll	10 Donnerstahlbarren 4 Lebendiger Stahl 6 Geist der Harmonie	Wiedergeborener Bote des Sturms	30 Donnerstahlbarren 16 Lebendiger Stahl 18 Geist der Harmonie
Total:	30 Donnerstahlbarren 15 Lebendiger Stahl 18 Geist der Harmonie	+ 60 Donnerstahlbarren 30 Lebendiger Stahl 36 Geist der Harmonie	+ 90 Donnerstahlbarren 45 Lebendiger Stahl 54 Geist der Harmonie	180 Donnerstahlbarren 90 Lebendiger Stahl 108 Geist der Harmonie

Kommentar von pakteri

This will make your life easier! Try it out.
PS: You have to put these spells on your action bar to make it work.

Alchemy

/run PickupSpell(156587) — Alchemical Catalyst
/run PickupSpell(175880) — Secrets of Draenor Alchemy
/run PickupSpell(114780) — Transmute: Living Steel

Blacksmithing

/run PickupSpell(171690) — Truesteel Ingot
/run PickupSpell(176090) — Secrets of Draenor Blacksmithing
/run PickupSpell(143255) — Balanced Trillium Ingot
/run PickupSpell(138646) — Lightning Steel Ingot

Enchanting

/run PickupSpell(169092) — Temporal Crystal
/run PickupSpell(177043) — Secrets of Draenor Enchanting

Engineering

/run PickupSpell(169080) — Gearspring Parts
/run PickupSpell(177054) — Secrets of Draenor Engineering
/run PickupSpell(139176) — Jard’s Peculiar Energy Source

Inscription

/run PickupSpell(169081) — War Paints
/run PickupSpell(177045) — Secrets of Draenor Inscription
/run PickupSpell(112996) — Scroll of Wisdom

Jewelcrafting

/run PickupSpell(170700) — Taladite Crystal
/run PickupSpell(176087) — Secrets of Draenor Jewelcrafting
/run PickupSpell(140050) — Serpent’s Heart

Leatherworking

/run PickupSpell(171391) — Burnished Leather
/run PickupSpell(176089) — Secrets of Draenor Leatherworking
/run PickupSpell(142976) — Hardened Magnificent Hide
/run PickupSpell(140040) — Magnificence of Leather

Tailoring

/run PickupSpell(168835) — Hexweave Cloth
/run PickupSpell(176058) — Secrets of Draenor Tailoring
/run PickupSpell(143011) — Celestial Cloth
/run PickupSpell(125557) — Imperial Silk

Kommentar von Balstrome

You can also make these ingots in Highmountain at the Ironhorn Enclave on the Firmament Stone.

Kommentar von brzyd4l

To craft all the weapons (for transmog and recepies) you need 180 ignots.
Which means 180 days.

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