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Blizzard Posts Feb 23rd: Slot-Specific Legendary Targeting, World Boss Testing, PvP Updates

geposted 2017.02.23 um 18:42 von perculia

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Kommentar von BeWasted So no good news then? :\/ Kommentar von Redron So if a new character loot sephus, prydaz and multispec legendary, then better to start a new character? Kommentar von jaldaan Can we please get that PVP healer nerf tho? Kommentar von Arraya This is why you're not supposed to hand out Legendaries like free candy in Halloween. It should've been only one Legendary for each 'stat': Stamina, Strength, Agility and Intellect, with some proc that increases your primary stat by X% for X seconds. Kommentar von Istaro This is why you're not supposed to hand out Legendaries like free candy in Halloween. It should've been only one Legendary for each 'stat': Stamina, Strength, Agility and Intellect, with some proc that increases your primary stat by X% for X seconds.\r
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Yeah, that would have been a lot better. If I wanted to play Diablo I would, which I don't largely because of the legendary problem.\r
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Although even such a proc would have the same problem that Concordance of the Legionfall has, namely that it drastically favors DPS specs who press buttons to do damage right then (direct damage specs) over DPS specs that press buttons to set up constant streams of damage (DoT specs). Same as the WoD ring. Kommentar von SquirePip This is why you're not supposed to hand out Legendaries like free candy in Halloween. It should've been only one Legendary for each 'stat': Stamina, Strength, Agility and Intellect, with some proc that increases your primary stat by X% for X seconds.\r
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handing out lots of Legendary items is fine. The problem is how part of the playerbase views everything on "does it increase my damage by .01%" Kommentar von bleuwolfe Yep, this is the important point to remember: if a legendary just sucks, then that's the problem we need to fix. Similarly, if your spec sucks without a particular legendary, then that legendary also needs to be fixed to not be so impactful.\r
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This is why people think blizz doesn't listen. If a spec is considered unplayable\/unviable without a legendary (or 2 - BM hunter comes to mind) it's the SPEC that needs to be fixed, NOT the legendary that needs to be nerfed. Kommentar von SquirePip Exactly, only the first 3 legendaries will drop fast. Sephus and prydaz are multispec legendaries aswell, so if you drop these 2 junkies and another multispec or another $%^& tier legendary, then it'll consume BLP from every spec you stacked and the fourth one will drop only within 1.5 months.\r
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Blizzard is saying that in this situation, it's better to delete your character to avoid wasting time and reroll a new one, then cross your fingers to be lucky next time until blizzard hear the feedback and stop turning the game into a Diablo-like RNGfest and make legendaries great again.\r
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Needless to say that I almost shat on a box and sent it to blizzard with a message written in orange "here is your legendary item" when I got my "Achor, the eternal hunger" in Tichondrius while another DH who was doing a $%^&ty DPS at Tich dropped "Delusions of Grandeur". I tried to smile and lie to myself that I could use this legendary for pvp, but I couldn't feel anything other than anger and frustration for wasting yet another 1.5 months to get punished for being dedicated to the game and doing a good DPS in the raid. I deserved the "Delusions of Grandeur", not the other DH who did an inferior DPS worthy a punishment such as Achor!\r
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An interesting detail is that I dropped the Warglaive of Azzinoth (offhand) at the same day I had the displeasure of wasting my BLP on "Achor, the eternal piece of %^&*" and I felt much more satisfied and happy on getting the warglaive than the uselesstility legendary.\r
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You know that this legendary system is pure bull#$%^ when good players get punished for doing good DPS while players who rarely logs on the week and does inferior DPS are rewarded with the best legendaries and getting a legendary from a previous expansion is infinitely more satisfying than getting most of the current ones...\r
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that's a problem with the playerbase though not Blizzard. Blizzard isn't punishing you your fellow players are. And you don't deserve anything in the game more than anyone else does, no matter what your dps is. Kommentar von Interest The posts on legendary stuff seem pretty promising. Nice to see the confirmation on slot targeting in particular for instance.

Also, the spec-based pity timer is probably a good thing since it provides multiple pity timers and the first one or two legendaries are acquired relatively fast. This means that clever usage of loot specs can get rid of "bad" legendaries, especially the ones with more generic effects that can be gotten as any spec. At worst, especially for those who have gotten several "bad" legendaries for a spec they want to play, nothing really changes, though there is now an option to use offspec pity timers to get legendaries that might at least have decent stats for one's main spec. Kommentar von fefenc Blizzard is punishing us by not hearing countless feedbacks about how much flawed this system actually is and for doing little-to-nothing to fix this huge game design problem that cripples a lot of people and is the reason for plenty of re-rolls based on frustration...

And yes, If my performance and dedication are higher than other's, then I deserve more, it's called meritocracy.

I deserved the legendary shoulder much more than the other DH as my performance was superior even with prydaz equipped. The other DH is the one who deserved the "Achor, the eternal bull#$%^" legendary as he did inferior than me, but this is the expansion of RNG, where dedicated players get punished for being good. The funny part is that blizzard's attempt to aid people with the RNG issue is applying even more RNG to the orange epic system that's doomed by the huge amount of RNG.

Why would I want 50% leech when I am not playing as tanker? 50% Leech won't increase my damage by 50% and the reason for having healers on raids is to keep people alive by healing them..

It's so easy to solve this problem they created when they ignored all the feedback from the beta and pre-patch either by letting us target a legendary of choice to be our next drop or let us target 2 unwanted legendaries to make them impossible to drop just like we can exclude 2 unwanted BGs from the queues. Kommentar von Gyrospark So if a new character loot sephus, prydaz and multispec legendary, then better to start a new character?

So you can loot the same ones again on that char? I'd rather just take those so I know I wont get them on a new char if I make one. I have 5 utility legendaries right now and my last one was the 7.1.5 bis, now all I'm going to be getting is dps legendaries since all the #$%^ty ones are out of the loot table.

Plus who would want to re-gather the 54 traits, even if you get 25 AK on new char within a week or two. Kommentar von Tombsv I wonder when they will explain the Outlaw changes. Kommentar von Azarenka Blizzard is punishing us by not hearing countless feedbacks about how much flawed this system actually is and for doing little-to-nothing to fix this huge game design problem that cripples a lot of people and is the reason for plenty of re-rolls based on frustration... \r
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And yes, If my performance and dedication are higher than other's, then I deserve more, it's called meritocracy.\r
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I deserved the legendary shoulder much more than the other DH as my performance was superior even with prydaz equipped. The other DH is the one who deserved the "Achor, the eternal bull#$%^" legendary as he did inferior than me, but this is the expansion of RNG, where dedicated players get punished for being good. The funny part is that blizzard's attempt to aid people with the RNG issue is applying even more RNG to the orange epic system that's doomed by the huge amount of RNG.\r
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Why would I want 50% leech when I am not playing as tanker? 50% Leech won't increase my damage by 50% and the reason for having healers on raids is to keep people alive by healing them..\r
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It's so easy to solve this problem they created when they ignored all the feedback from the beta and pre-patch either by letting us target a legendary of choice to be our next drop or let us target 2 unwanted legendaries to make them impossible to drop just like we can exclude 2 unwanted BGs from the queues.\r
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Got Achor as my very first legendary on first several days of release. It's actually very useful in harder content. Its leech+blur honestly saved me so many times in many situations. But still, a minor buff to it would be better. Kommentar von DarkAviator The only way these relinquished items can help targeting a specific legendary is, if you don't do ANYTHING besides farming the currency for the items.\r
A truly great concept.\r
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And about fixing legendaries: Instead of buffing the bad ones, they rather nerf the good ones without compensation for the spec, as 7.1.5 showed (BM hunter PoV). And they managed to acknowledge that dps increasing legendaries wasn't that a good idea at the same time as adding more of them when they could've fixed the class issue without it (hello Der Mantel des Alphas).\r
Especially salty because when frost mages raised a similar problem with fingers of frost, they don't get a new legendary but an actual fix. :( Kommentar von IJimmyI Well, legendary item drops like it is now sucks, and it have to. Even when you can choose witch legendary you want, you still depend heavily on luck when it drops. (but still by 1000% better)
How hard is made it to collect "fragments" of legendary item, soo you would need many small items and so they can have higger drop chance, or even 100% chance to drop from last boss. Then some superb npc would made from that fragments legendary item of your choosing, they can even make that bis items will cost more fragments than *!@#ty or even almost useless ones. Problem solved everyone is happy.
Its always better to collect bit after bit than hoping every drop is this that one? nope, is that? nope, nope and nope :) Kommentar von Sarthorius Exactly, only the first 3 legendaries will drop fast. Sephus and prydaz are multispec legendaries aswell, so if you drop these 2 junkies and another multispec or another $%^& tier legendary, then it'll consume BLP from every spec you stacked and the fourth one will drop only within 1.5 months.\r
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Blizzard is saying that in this situation, it's better to delete your character to avoid wasting time and reroll a new one, then cross your fingers to be lucky next time until blizzard hear the feedback and stop turning the game into a Diablo-like RNGfest and make legendaries great again.\r
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Needless to say that I almost shat on a box and sent it to blizzard with a message written in orange "here is your legendary item" when I got my "Achor, the eternal hunger" in Tichondrius while another DH who was doing a $%^&ty DPS at Tich dropped "Delusions of Grandeur". I tried to smile and lie to myself that I could use this legendary for pvp, but I couldn't feel anything other than anger and frustration for wasting yet another 1.5 months to get punished for being dedicated to the game and doing a good DPS in the raid. I deserved the "Delusions of Grandeur", not the other DH who did an inferior DPS worthy a punishment such as Achor!\r
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An interesting detail is that I dropped the Warglaive of Azzinoth (offhand) at the same day I had the displeasure of wasting my BLP on "Achor, the eternal piece of %^&*" and I felt much more satisfied and happy on getting the warglaive than the uselesstility legendary.\r
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You know that this legendary system is pure bull#$%^ when good players get punished for doing good DPS while players who rarely logs on the week and does inferior DPS are rewarded with the best legendaries and getting a legendary from a previous expansion is infinitely more satisfying than getting most of the current ones...\r
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Blizzard is punishing us by not hearing countless feedbacks about how much flawed this system actually is and for doing little-to-nothing to fix this huge game design problem that cripples a lot of people and is the reason for plenty of re-rolls based on frustration... \r
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And yes, If my performance and dedication are higher than other's, then I deserve more, it's called meritocracy.\r
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I deserved the legendary shoulder much more than the other DH as my performance was superior even with prydaz equipped. The other DH is the one who deserved the "Achor, the eternal bull#$%^" legendary as he did inferior than me, but this is the expansion of RNG, where dedicated players get punished for being good. The funny part is that blizzard's attempt to aid people with the RNG issue is applying even more RNG to the orange epic system that's doomed by the huge amount of RNG.\r
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Why would I want 50% leech when I am not playing as tanker? 50% Leech won't increase my damage by 50% and the reason for having healers on raids is to keep people alive by healing them..\r
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It's so easy to solve this problem they created when they ignored all the feedback from the beta and pre-patch either by letting us target a legendary of choice to be our next drop or let us target 2 unwanted legendaries to make them impossible to drop just like we can exclude 2 unwanted BGs from the queues.\r
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Oh we have a short minded one here. If you get a 50% leech, it may not be well for a dps spec, but for a tank, you might even outheal your healers, if you get in any kind of group, or can even do some solo grinds easier (like soloing harder old raids for example). \r
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Blizz won't do your stuff, they have to look for ALL their playerbase, not just people that think they deserve more for doing more (dps? pfahh). One solution for these Legendaries would be to make them utility-only. But that right now would still make people whine, and complaint about what about those that had dropped BiS dps ones? I would have to reroll, since I would not fill that raid group slot anymore. Man people put too many expectation behind certain things in the game, the wrong things, instead of checking the whole picture.\r
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I got the Leg Bracers and Pants in my hunter. Are them BiS? I don't know, I don't care. I simply went to check what they would be useful for. For example, the 33% CD reduction on ALL Aspects, make the bracers useful for all specs, reduces Aspect of wild, a minor dps increase, Aspect of Turtle, that one that most don't remember to use even in large groups, might be even better in pvp with the CD decreased, Aspect of Eagle for SV...\r
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The Legendary Pants, healing 3% of my life every 1s for as long as I stand still. Might be good for pvp too, as people tend to throw some CC's on you first then attack, the time you're stunned, for example, you're healing too. And hey, I discovered its usefulness in the Brawler's Guild, as some bosses have stun mechs, and if playing melee and you need to stand still for some seconds, you can heal thru it too. Apart form that, its a damn flat stat increase. Legendaries are meant to be behind some RNG. Playing only one spec\/class, or 2-3, in Legion is what will make people quit in first place, instead of playing it as a whole. Legendaries shouldn't be a requirement to get in any group, and in my opinion, whoever states that shouldn't be playing the game at all, punishing others like that. They should be only a bonus, and people with them, with the BiS even, shouldn't feel on top of a pedestal, feeling like they are better than others, unless they dropped the last event's rocket that is :P . \r
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With that in mind I played all my alts, and even got some BiS on some alts instead of my main, should I feel bad for this, should I reroll, and play only these alts, because my main can't drop dps-like legendaries? No I don't, that, I assure you. Blizz is trying to bring this play your whole account thing, in a manner, and people are still stuck with the arcaic Okay which class I'm only going to play in Legion thing. The class lore is too good to let it for later, or never. And in 7.2 I hope blizz make so that only classes at 110 will be able to grab they class mount, if not more requirements behind it. People are farming too much of some things in detriment of others, depleting their game of content, then come complaining about lack of content. \r
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As the pandaren say:\r
Slow down, Life is to be savored. Kommentar von sinangelus Also, the spec-based pity timer is probably a good thing since it provides multiple pity timers and the first one or two legendaries are acquired relatively fast. This means that clever usage of loot specs can get rid of "bad" legendaries, especially the ones with more generic effects that can be gotten as any spec. Wrong. You didn't read what Blizzard really said. If you get a cross-class legendary it counts as if you have one for every spec so you lose any offspec increased BLP, cya. My main got the cross-class boots as first, prydaz as second, I can say goodbye to any offspec BLP. That's exactly what it says when you read into Blizzard's explanations. \r
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Oh we have a short minded one here. If you get a 50% leech, it may not be well for a dps spec, but for a tank, you might even outheal your healers, Gosh, wish people would stop talking out of their *** when they comment on the DH chest, every single time someone talks about Achor some smart*** claims "but leech is useful to a tank", dude did you even play a DH? In an expansion where everyone did? \r
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The legendary says you gain leech while blur is active. \r
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You don't have blur in vengeance spec. Period. The item doesn't do anything for a DH tank. \r
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That legendary is useless. Kommentar von ONCHEhap We recognize that there's a problem with World PvP right now, and we do want to find ways to make some improvements there, but these changes would have been far too disruptive to balance in instanced PvP.\r
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You mean like when you nerfed Blood DK's best damage spell by 40% because of world pvp?\r
Even though we're already bottom of damage and were doing half of the DPS of any other tank even before said nerf?\r
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They got some nerve Kommentar von hotaru251 well.....my druid tank is gonna love the change (as she got tank trink, bracers, and belt) as she can hopefully target the balance moonfire legendary now.\r
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My warlock not so much as one of leg. i got on ehr is sephuz (i do enjoy it on her)\r
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My pally.....is facked :| sephuz and shield necklace screws her over for off spec legendary :( Kommentar von shadowedscholar I always hate seeing things like this. \r
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It wasn't getting much use in PvE (and when it was, that was almost always the wrong choice)\r
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If a talent is almost always the wrong choice, then why have it? Other than the fun of having people around you complaining you took the worst talent and it's killing dps or whatnot. \r
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Short story short, don't make bad talents, make equally good options.

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