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Wowhead Economy Weekly Wrap-Up 186 | Legendary Stock Tracker, Brutosaur Container on BMAH
18.07.2021 um 13:20
WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up
Hello! Welcome to the 186th edition of the WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-up!
My name is
and I am a content creator focusing on making gold using Professions and
. I have a number of guides over on
and I also stream my adventures on
Legendary Stock Tracker & Selling Tips n Tricks
has been continuously hard at work keeping the addon
Legendary Stock Tracker
up to date. This addon serves as a complement to TSM allowing you to see at a glance the potential profit margins and stock levels you have and are capable of crafting in the Legendary base item market ..
It's been a long time since I've posted anything about LST here, with over 20 updates to the addon since the last time.
I figured 9.1 bringing new legendaries would be a good reason to update you guys.
LST fully supports rank 5 and 6 legendaries now, pricing can calculte the cost of the vestige, and restocking can craft the r5/r6 items.
LST also knows which slots are domination slots, and you can now disable restocking items in those slots if you prefer.
There's also a hidden feature that's been in the addon for a while, but you can set different restock amounts for each rank if you want with the following command:
/lstsetrestock 1 1 1 1 1 1
I am still actively working on LST, for example crafting the vestiges from the cheapest of your two professions, and performance improvements should be coming soon™
For those who don't know what LST is, as the name suggest it's an addon to help you manage your legendaries.
LST will count how many you own of each legendary, and makes it easy to restock any items that you are out of stock on.
Assuming you have TSM installed, it will also calculate the crafting cost and profits, and you have the option to only restock anything above a certain profit.
You can install LST through the curseforge client (or your favorite addon manager), or download it directly from
Good luck to all the leggo sellers, may the sales be good when the raiders finally get enough soul cinders :)
So Just wanted to jump in on this and offer a personal Thank you. This is an addon that WITHOUT question saved countless hours for me, and in return probably made me a bunch of gold!
People should click this link -
I think Manthieus summed up my thoughts pretty nicely here and it ties in with
last weeks post
with so many great addons out there that help our lives immensely. It's well worth supporting them on platforms like
, so that development can continue.
Also, tied in with Lengendary sales,
has a recent video highlighting tips for selling in a competitive market utilizing Trade Chat where necessary.
Brutosaur added to the Unclaimed Black Market Container
Eagle eyed goblins spotted a small, but significant update in the
hotfixes for July 15th
Items and Rewards
More of the newest additions to the Black Market Auction House have been added to the Unclaimed Black Market Container, including the Mighty Caravan Brutosaur.
Please correct me if my maths is wrong.
Wowhead states that there are 1003 items that can be in the container, round to 1000.
That means you need to open just under 3000 boxes for a 95% chance to get one.
Or, if you spent gold cap on the cheapest containers at 20k, you'd get 500 boxes which is just a 39% chance to get one
*assuming all items are equally likely to show up, which my feelycraft says isn't true
That said, you could still get incredibly lucky and grab a
Making Crafting Profitable - Part 6 - DBMinBuyout
has been doing some incredibly well thought out deep dives into various aspects of
. In this recent post, he goes through an often misused variable
For brevity, I've taken excerpts from the larger article. If you would like to read the full article, click the link
During the series How to Make Crafting Profitable,
covers DBMinBuyout and why it is bad to use. I linked to
on Twitter, and pasted the results of the !matcost command from the Woweconomy Discord.
That ought to have covered everything, but clearly there are more questions. Let's dive into DBMinBuyout and related errata.
WoW Classic/BCC, and Manual Scans
Both of these game versions require TSM price data to be collected from TSM users. That may change in the future, if and when Blizzard provides a web API for those games like they do for retail WoW. As of this writing, Blizzard does not provide such a feature, meaning TSM can get data only one way: through /tsm scan as run by users.
What Manual Scanning Does
When a user runs the /tsm scan command from the Browse tab, this updates DBMinBuyout for all the items found on the auction house during the scan. This has several limitations:
The scan takes time, and will miss auctions during the scan. Either the auctions get cancelled, bought, or expire before the scan is complete, a manual scan will not detect those items.
Manual scans update DBMinBuyout as mentioned. No other price sources are updated. Your crafting costs, market value, sale rates, sales per day, etc, are not updated during this scan.
Users are limited, by Blizzard, to manually scanning once every 15 minutes, or after logging out/exiting the game and returning to the game. During either the 15 minute window or the minute or two needed to relog, dozens, possibly hundreds, even thousands, of auctions could be changed. New auctions could be posted. Old ones bought, cancelled, or expired. A manual scan is limited by time, and misses a lot of data.
Whenever the user reloads their UI or logs out/quits, the results of a manual scan are wiped from memory. /tsm scan is saved on a per-session basis. Therefore, not even DBMinBuyout is saved to disc.
DBMinBuyout reflects the single, cheapest cost for the item. It isn't updated live, which means if you buy the cheapest auction, DBMinBuyout does not update to the next cheapest price. You'd need to manually scan again, incurring the wait time.
This means that DBMinBuyout is at best a couple of minutes old or 15 minutes, depending on which wait you incur, and incomplete. At worst, it is several hours old if you have played for a long stretch without reloading your UI to bring in data from the app.
Retail WoW, and no Manual Scans
Retail World of Warcraft has no manual scan command. Instead, Blizzard provides data themselves through a web API. Typically, Blizzard updates their data every hour or so, but occasionally there are outages. You can check if Blizzard is reporting auction house data with
If there is data from Blizzard, the same thing happens with retail as does Classic/BCC: it gets processed on the TSM servers and provided back as price sources.
Where Should You Use DBMinBuyout
Realistically, you shouldn't. There is only one place in TSM that it works, and that is the Default Craft Value Method, where is first checks if an auction for that crafted item exists, and if yes, value against that current auction. If no such current auction for the crafted item exists, use the market value. first(dbminbuyout, dbmarket) * 0.95 which is found in /tsm, settings, crafting and you can read in greater detail in
Part 1 of Making Crafting Profitable
. Check the sticky comment for the other parts.
for this series in helping provide in-depth knowledge of each of the variables within TSM.
AH vs. Real Life Economy
has made a very interesting study and comparison of how we learn and practice making gold in the World of Warcraft economy and how it can apply to using similar methodologies in IRL day trading on the stock market ...
The original article on the woweconomy reddit
is incredibly in-depth and well-written as a thesis and if this topic interests you, then I highly recommend starting there.
I've quoted a few snippets here to give you an idea of what is talked about ...
In this forum I’ve often encountered the question of whether the goblin principles learned on the AH and in various WoW markets were applicable to real life.
The answer is a resounding, “Yes.” Yes, you can convert AH goblin principles and the market valuation methods learned in this community into principles that apply to real-life, specifically to making money.
My approach to this was entirely based on what I’ve learned from Sheyrah regarding AH Sniping, and from Manthieus and Samadan about how to identify trends, calculate expectations, and accurately project profitability.
I’m just testing, not trying to go to the moon. This is a strategy that Sheyrah provided when I learned how to program cautious Sniping setups from her TSM videos. Just like an AH goblin who is experienced with TUJ and can read TSM accurately, including cognizance of pertinent market information TSM does not detail, a trader who can read candlestick charts accurately in real time and precludes all but cautious trade windows will reliably receive a positive return on investment.
So, in summary, the same principles and methods derived from r/woweconomy are directly and, more importantly for the purposes of this inquiry, successfully applicable to modern day financial products and their respective markets. The method I am using to learn financial markets is identical to Sheyrah’s TSM Sniping setup. The programs are different; the principles and precautionary measures are identical. Of course one can lose on occasion, as I have, but this is rare and almost always due to lack of market preparation or a poor read on the metrics. It does happen, but a well-researched setup ensures that wins occur more often. And of course there are strong dis-analogies, too, such as time-invested to profit, but that was not the focus of my investigation. The existence of dis-analogies, strong or otherwise, does nothing to overturn the highly and significantly analogous parallels. We’re not asking which carries more weight, for example, or what there is more of between the two. This is an investigation into and report on whether there are goblin principles available on r/woweconomy that successfully transfer to real-life acquisition of standard currencies. In my estimation the evidence provided indicates the answer to that question is yes. More importantly, we can affirm that r/woweconomy offers high quality information and principles that apply to multiple areas of everyday life because this is a great community. Enjoy it, and thanks to all the goblin heroes that have made this a great place to learn.
These snippets do not do the full article justice, but it's wonderful to hear someone curious enough to translate what they have learned from gold making in WoW and applying similar techniques in the real world.
.. and for the record, my own experience at manging IRL money has gone through many highs and lows just like WoW with experiments in different markets aplenty. The basis of my gold making lies in Professions as with IRL.
Most of this information was discussed and originally posted on the
subreddit or in the accompanying
. You can also catch me streaming live on
on Sunday from around 7PM GMT UK Time (2pm Eastern Time) for the WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-up live on Wowhead.com, or you can tweet your feedback/thoughts via Twitter at
I hope you found this useful and If you have any suggestions or feedback, please do say so in the comments below..
Until next time, Happy Goldmaking!
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