I'd love to see NOMI burn in his own cooking pot. Blizz promised he would get better, but so far he just burns food more fancy. (GG - they said better, but didn't specific at what)I'm glad it's finally got a date. I can start playing the game more. Not doing anything since I don't want to "accidentally" get yet another Legendary I have to grind upgrade. (Stupid System BTW)Would love to know if these items are getting "GEAR UPGRADES" from the crap they drop now:
by the time mythic comes out with lfr wing 1, 2 of the first 3 bosses drop tier pants and helm i believe... so if you dont expect people to try and get another chance at 2 piece your sadly mistaken. people will do anything to try and be the best. you just gotta not care and play the game to have fun.
I'll be glad when LFR opens, since the only time I can get into the raid content is well after the expansion, or LFR. I am not part of a large raiding guild, and quite happy playing with my family guilds. I want to see the raid content, but I don't have a fixed play availability to allow for me to try and join one of the raiding guilds. Plus I play to relax and enjoy myself. Sometimes mid session I have to stop and change a diaper or feed my daughter. I always have my child close by when I am in game, whether she is down for her nap, or watching Sofia on Netflix, or running around on the floor playing with her toys. Does the fact that I have to take care of a child mean i am not allowed to enjoy raid content? No, it does not. For players like me LFR is the way we can get in to the content. Call us casual, but the fact is, those that have the time and drive to play as an elite can do the content they want, while I and others in the same, or similar boats, can play what we want. We all pay for our subs in one way or another.
What is with all of the Raid Finder/LFR hate?1) "Mythic raiders / world first will be disrupted by Raid Finder - look at Dragonsoul!"This is the biggest load of horse^&*!. Dragonsoul was different in several key ways: 1) it was bugged (could be looted multiple times in a week) and some world first teams ran it constantly, taking advantage of the exploit. They were punished. 2) Mostly guild groups would have every member roll need on as much as they could try to grab all the gear. Personal loot system solves this problem.2) "Raid Finder is another level they have to grind."Boo-hoo. World first progression raiding is basically a full time job. Every raider is expected to have multiple toons all maxed out as well as be grinding out mats and consumables for the raid to burn through during their pushes. You don't think they're grinding normal/heroic for gear? You don't think they're grinding M+ for gear? If you're pushing for world first and you're missing a set bonus, you're going to WANT to grind Raid Finder as well until you get it. 3) "Make Raid Finder tier not work in Mythic raids (for the 1st month)."Gee, let's ostracize the filthy casuals even more! Come on people. Casual is not something dirty. If it's not your playstyle, fine. For many others (including MANY former hardcore raiders), LFR is the only raiding they get to do. If you can't commit enough CONTINUOUS time, Raid Finder was/is the only option. You say, "But, wait! You can pug normal and heroic groups thanks to flex!" You are correct, and I think flex is brilliant for getting more people into raiding. But, if you only have raid finder level gear, good luck getting into normal "890 minimum" NH groups.One of the biggest mistakes in Legion was NOT having the same gear (but raid finder level) drop in LFR. "But, we need to differentiate the gear from REAL raiding!" Don't you think having gear that's 15, 30, 45 levels below "real raiders' gear" isn't enough differentiation? It's even historically been different colors to differentiate it (some of which are better than the higher levels). If you want "filthy LFR Casuals" to not have access to tier gear, you are the type of person who doesn't want those same "filthy lessers" from getting any of the same kind of stuff you might have, such as steak, BMWs, designer clothes, or houses, instead relegating them to soup kitchens, a scooter, Goodwill clothes, and cardboard boxes. Are you really so petty that you don't want the "filthy casuals" to have some nice things? Don't worry - their things will still not be as nice as your "heroic/mythic' things."Filthy casuals" know they're not going to get the most elite gear. But you want to put them down even more?5) "LFR players complain that they don't get to kill Final Bosses on the first day." If you think this is a problem, then you should also be pointing out that this problem also exists for 95+% of the WoW community who don't kill the final boss on the first day/week. But the real reason LFR people can't kill the final bosses right away is the whole gating system. But you want to put "filthy casuals" down even more? Again, by pointing this out, you are just reinforcing your perspective that "filthy casuals" don't deserve stuff that's even remotely similar to your stuff.World first raids aren't even 1% of the WoW community. We give them celebrity status, because they have earned it by deed. And most of the people in this category, have ZERO complaints about tier gear in LFR other than "It didn't drop AGAIN! stupid gold...." The people who want to block off the "filthy casuals" are those who think they could be (and deserve to be top end mythic raiders), but their performance is lacking for whatever reasons that are never their fault."Filthy casuals" are not holding you back as a raider."Filthy casuals" are not ruining your gameplay experience."Filthy casuals" are not causing you to wipe in Heroic/Mythic raids."Filthy casuals" are not ruining WoW. In fact, they are a vast majority of subs.It's the attitudes against "filthy casuals" that do harm to the game and the community.~Aeryndil-Stormscale
Everybody speaks about "disrupting world first race" if LFR was to be opened at once, but there is one other thing: Are you able to clear whole raid on the release day (or during the first week) on the highest difficuly you raid? No? Why should LFR be any different?
People wanting all LFR wings on release do have some arguments, but they are kind of easily broken when you put some thought in it.First argument: It's just another timegating.Yes it is. When you raid on nonLFR dificulties, there is also gating, called PROGRESS, my guild is now progressing mythic Guldan, do we cry about timegating that in form of getting better gear and learning fight, is preventing us in killing Guldan for 5 months now? No, we are just trying to get Cutting Edge and doing anything we can to BECOME better and do it. This LFR timegating is very similar and far more benevolent.Now imagine this. You are normal raider, but you dont want to do LFR, because you can do raid on normal. It really isnt fair that someone who will log in to LFR for autokill will see final boss first day of release, without any effort put in except joining queue. Even if your group is totaly incompetent Determination means that you will kill it no matter what. So normal player HAS to wait maybe 2-3 weeks before his guild kills final boss but this efortless, nonsocial (in MMORPG) mode can be facerolled on first day. You think that fair? I dont think so.Another argument i found here was: Why LFR drops lower gear.Come on, you cant be that stupid. When you do LFR, for what would you need better gear? LFR is hardest thing you are going to do and gear it awards is clearly sufficient. If we put LFR on pair with other difficulties, whole getting better gear will become now log every LFR wing, get items, and then actualy do difficulty you want.Thats just riddiculous, again MMORPG is based on character progress and with this system it would be gone.Next and last im going to talk about: Casuals represents majority and they play most, raiders log in only for raids. So we should see it imediately too.Again, it can sound logical but its wrong. On my server, people who raid are also people with most achievements, pets, mount etc. I have 25k points and im raiding mythic. Im raider but that doesnt mean that i dont do casual stuff too. There also are much more raiders than you think, there are dozens guilds which cleared HC on my realm with thousands players. But we dont get to see content we are paying for. Get better then, I bought Starcraft 6y ago and i couldnt do it on brutal difficulty back then. Should i cry about how hard it is and i cant get those achievements for completing it even though i paid for them? Hell no, games dont work like that.So please, casuals, and i dont mean it as insult, im not trying to express anything negative, please think about how raiding works. You may kill last boss sooner than "raiders" even with that LFR timegating. So please, if you dont have time to dedicate yourself to raiding, be happy that blizzard is giving you free progress each time wing opens instead of putting much more time and effort to do it on higher difficulties.Edit: I would really like to see some of those casuals complaing in comments above to tell me why they think im wrong. But without "im paying for game, i should get everything" attitude because thats just stupid childish behavior.
How is it that LFR players have all the time in the world to comment on wowhead articles and complain on the forums, but don't have roughly 2 hours a week to clear content on Normal difficulty.The way the lockout system works you can just jump in and out of a raid killing the bosses you need to or aren't locked to, seriously I started playing again 1.5 weeks ago after a 6 month break and I managed to gear up to almost 900 ilvl, fully clear normal and 7/10 heroic NH, all through the group finder.Now more than ever I think the term "git gud" is appropriate.
...Why did I think reading the comments on this was a good idea?
Casuals don't expect everything to be handed to them, just like raiders don't. Casuals work for the things they want as well, and everyone who plays wants to beat the Big Bad at the end of a raid or expansion. LFR/Raid Finder may be tourist mode, but the gear drops in there are appropriately scaled rewards. CASUALS ARE OK WITH LOWER LEVEL GEAR. But don't segregate them with that crap that dropped in WoD LFRs.A majority of people who raid only LFR may WANT access to more bosses earlier, but they UNDERSTAND that staggered release system is an incentive to hop into regular raiding. If they don't want that or can't do that, they will wait. They may complain, but they will wait. No one is seriously arguing that LFR should be opened all at once.After being in raid teams that pushed for server first heroic kills (up through Cata - no mythics back then), my schedule changed and I was no longer able to commit to regular raids. When MoP launched and had LFR (introduced in Dragonsoul), LFR was my raiding. It mattered to me as an LFR raider that I was getting actual Tier gear. I didn't care that it wasn't the highest item level gear, nor did I care that I didn't get it as quickly as regular raiders. But it was raid gear and it was tier. That mattered. Then the flex system was introduced and this was one of the best things ever for raiding for both casuals and harcore raiders. Casuals could start dipping their toes into "real" raiding, while hardcore players could do their raids while also helping friends with their raids (especially more casual friends).Ultimately I have 2 points. The first is that LFR (and Flex) is in a very good place right now. There is a very good balance of casual content and proportional rewards without the pitfalls we had in Dragonsoul. The second is that I would like to see comments about "filthy casuals" disappear. That type of $%^&*ing only hurts the community.