Way....way more better than Christie Golden's witting.
Dude, Nobel ^&*!S! I don't have time to read as much as before but still wanna be involved with the lore and his videos always point out these "gotchas" from the lore, he doesn't sugar coat it and he doesn't leave the interesting details/possible future plots out. It's like I read it myself.Love him.
You know, from the Sira thing I'm starting to think becoming undead is a lot more than waking up with bedhead. You know, emotionally.Thanks for the summary!
As alliance member i a so afraid they are going to do somethings to us. Like tyrande becoming garrosh 3.0 or arthas 3.0 ...all signs point to it. Would be such a shame. And still think the handling for teldrassil and turning of sira etc is pretty darn weak.You would think Tyrande is a bit happy that the horde gave her/alliance Sira. And that anduin lets her near her ( knowing what could happen).And the fractured alliance....god no....please that would be weak story telling at best. Why? because a slowy going made arthas 3.0 tyrande, or Mad dog Greymane? No thank you.Maybe a power struggle/ruling struggle. But a full out faction war...it has been done by the horde several times. If i want a unstable faction (politicaly) i would play the horde.Or the qoute Ion: If you want to play a proud warrior race, that has a faction war every other expansion and a new leader every other expansion. the horde is there for you.
I always thought that Shaw and Valeera would be a thing. Overall story is whatever like always. WoW just isn't the game for good stories
While I don't like commenting the lore anymore, cause imo Warcraft story has been told several expansions ago now it's just coming out of nothing, I have to say that this book is just keeping up with the recently developed tradition in WoW. Telling the story without any regard to consistency, characters or the settings in general.There's Flynn and Shaw. Out of nowhere, they're gay and in love. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind gay characters, it's just that in game, well Flynn is obviously not gay. Quite contrary he's hinted of having been a ladies man (modeled after Captain Jack Sparrow) and is clearly stated of being in love with Taelia! To make matters worst it was the main plot of a whole zone, just several patches ago. I wouldn't mind that much if it happened in MoP or WoD, who remembers that long, but it was only a few patches ago. They could've done it a lot better, if they made Anduin gay for example, nobody would be surprised and people would be like, they teased this already many times.Then there's Talanji, again not trusting the Horde and what not......Again it was the main plot a few patches ago, Horde earning Zandalari trust. By now wouldn't they be bffs for life.Not even gonna comment inconsistencies with Undead Night Elves, and it was all in game in BfA. Let alone Thrall and Tyrande inconsistencies that date all the way back to Warcraft III.And also there's Sylvanas defeating Blovar and his whole army on her own atop the Frozen Throne. How did she do that? What is she even now? The Queen of Blades? It's because of her Covenant powers. So now that we get our Covenant powers, are we all gonna become Queens of Blades? Are we gonna be seeing dozens of Queens of Blades chilling around inns in Stormwind and Orgrimmar? And what of Jaina? We go into the Maw and see her freezing and slaughtering throngs of the Jailers forces on her own, in the middle of hell. Seriously? How did she become the Queen of Blades? Don't you think that's just a little bit too many Queens of Blades for one universe?
I don’t usually post, but this matter has made me get out of lurkdom, because I see so many people reading and interpreting things how they want them to be and not how they really are. I see so many people getting the wrong idea, it is really unsettling. First off, the book is excellent, and the summary here is well put. Kudos for a great job.Tyrande is all but justified to be angry and has taken a great step to make things right. This is how she feels. She saw her people die, she lost almost everything she held dear. As such she invoked a dangerous ritual, without thinking about the consequences. But this is just the beginning of this journey. No one knows what the outcome of all this will be. Sure, there are some hints but things are not just black and white. I see so many that have already decided Tyrande will be Garrosh/Arthas 2.0 or whatever because of all those hints. They are jumping into conclusions without even knowing anything but a scrap of what has already been told from a story perspective. Just wait people and give time for the character to unfold. Interpreting matters the way you want them and blaming everything on bad writing or Blizzard retconning just because they aren’t how you have imagined is nothing but your fault.As for Shaw and Flynn. Really, someone has to be living under a rock to not have seen their involvement. Flynn has been written as bisexual from the get go. He has eyes for literally EVERYONE no matter their sex or sexual preferences. If you have played through the whole Tiragarde Sound storyline, Flynn even flirts with YOU the player character (even if you are male). Sure, a mate of his mentions he had some feelings for Taelia but that’s that. A single line of dialogue with a random mate. Suddenly all people took that only phrase and made it their banner ignoring the whole storyline, the Dazar'alor heist, his flirting with everything and everyone, AND Don Adams mentioning Flynn is and has always been bisexual. Also, since when Shaw had anything to do with Valeera? There has been nothing about them anywhere. Just because they talk together at some point and he mentions he’s interested in getting to know someone (emphasis on that) does that mean it should be her? Just because people want it so?As a bisexual male myself, the Shaw/Flynn pairing has been the best thing that has happened in game. Not because of representation or diversity, these terms sound a little too… exotic for me, I live in Europe and a few matters that are very important to people from the US come to me as a little different culture wise, but because it was a fun thing to happen that made the world feel live and vibrant. Flynn was my favourite character from the moment he helped me get out from that prison (playing both factions but tend to favour Alliance so I get to play my Alliance characters first then my Horde ones). Shaw had this stiff, no-nonsense demeanour, always serious, almost uptight, his character literally begged to be treated with love and compassion. Those two were destined to be together, and I couldn’t be happier for them. They both made me feel as they are living breathing entities not some fictional characters in a game. In the Dazar'alor heist, I had the impression those two were some friends of mine, who in public pretend to hate each other just because they can’t express their feelings to one another but in secret they both came to me for advice on how to eventually express them. And that’s great about them. Not the representation or diversity thing. Anyway, enough chatter, back to lurkdom for me.
RemovedHow was that trolling? That was my true experience.And that left me in a state in which I do not like to try it again.
Flynn and Shaw coming out of the blue worries me not. This is why the novel exist, and in-game text is always here. I do like organic relationships, not turning old and well know characters (Iceman) into new personas due to agendas. We know little about Flynn and Shaw, so just let them be. Be mad if you had girlfriends and even sabotage the marraige of your ex just to become gay one year later...Worry about Nathanos stopping simping for Sylvie one day out of nowhere. THAT'S character deconstruction.