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Havoc Demon Hunter in Shadowlands - DPS Strengths, Best Covenants, Soulbinds and Legendaries

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What Has Changed for Havoc Demon Hunter?Shadowlands Demon Hunter Class Changesprevious articleNotable Changes Since Last Article

All 4 different Covenants received numerical alterations bringing them closer together.

Some tuning has been done to various talents and spells.

Entfesseltes Chaos was changed... AGAIN.
On one hand, removing the Inner Demon from the talent is great as the landing has been historically buggy and highly dependent on the player latency. On the other hand, the Inner Demon offered an iconic feel and visual to this talent. Overall I think for the greater good, this is a great change apart from the 50% nerf that came with this change in order to put the talent in line with the other two talent on the same row.

Glevenorkan

Originally and for a long time on beta, Glevenorkan did not benefit from our Meisterschaft: Dämonische Präsenz. This has been fixed making Glaive Tempest a better talent.

Futter für die Flamme

Not exactly the most insane rework but it makes the ability stronger.

Leveling Perks in Shadowlands

Level 52 - Teufelsrausch.
A nice damage boost to Fel Rush, nothing extraordinary but great nontheless.

Level 54Metamorphose

The Chaotische Verwandlung azerite trait as a passive. This somewhat restrict our usage of Metamorphosis around min/maxing the effect of this passive which is generally great but on some niche encounter can also be very limiting on how and when we use our 4 minute cooldown. Generally a good passive to have.

Level 56Chaosstoß

Havoc pure single target damage is slightly below average in Shadowlands and this passive is a very welcome one.

Level 58Augenstrahl

We commented on the previous article about the lost of Furious Gaze and what it meant for the spec going forward and Blizzard heard us. Furious Gaze passive is extremely powerful and benefits our cooldown based spells greatly. What is even better is that in Shadowlands Furious gaze is haste % and not haste rating like it was in BFA, which means that the secondary stat DR will not affect this powerful passive.

Gameplay Repercussions from the Recent ChangesGlevenorkanDämonischEifer des GefechtsTeufelsbeschussCovenantsKyrianNecrolordNight FaeVenthyrHereKyrian

Elysischer Erlass is quite nice ability to use. The sigil being AoE and on a short cooldown gives it a good niche that emphasize one of Havoc's strength. The 3 lesser soul fragments are also nice to have access to and synergize well with Dämonischer Appetit granting you basically 90 fury every time you use the spell.

Wiederholter Erlass - This conduit generates a second sigil in the same spot that deals a portion of the damage. Unfortunately it doesn't also generate extra souls. Still, it's a respectable increase to one of our most powerful AoE damage abilities.

Provost beschwören This ability offered strong utility in M+ due to the amount of debuff it could cleanse from the player but now that Nathria testing has concluded, this signature looks even better. Most encounters in the raid involve bleeds which can be cleansed from the potion.

Necrolord

Futter für die Flamme - Has just been reworked, again. Not exactly the most insane rework but it makes the ability stronger. The newly buffed Mächtige Dämonenseele is also a significant buff for us on a 2 minute cooldown which means that every other use will also by synced up with Metamorphose for big gains.

Grübelbecken - This extends the duration of the damage buff from absorbing an Mächtige Dämonenseele. It's a strong choice if playing Necrolord, as it can provide a significant uptime increase to a 25% bonus.

Fleischformung The shield can be quite powerful in niche situations which seems to be the theme for Signature abilities. We can all think of / remember encounters where having this shield would've been a life saver and I don't think Shadowlands will be any different.

Night Fae

Die Jagd has received a nice buff recently making it more competitive with the other covenant ability. The dot is still extremely weird to apply with 100% confidence as mob hitbox are very often deceptive in their size on top of a charge ability. The cast time makes this ability extremely awkward to use as well to say the least.

Unnatürliche Bosheit - A substantial increase to the primary target damage of Die Jagd. Unfortunately has no effect in AoE.

Seelengestalt With so much mobility available to us with Teufelsrausch, Gleiten, Rachsüchtiger Rückzug and Meisterschaft: Dämonische Präsenz this is quite useless for us.

Venthyr

Sündhaftes Brandzeichen. is the highest damage covenant ability for us. The downside compared to the Kyrian ability is that Sinful Brand is only single target outside of when you Metamorphose every 4 minutes and apply Sündhaftes Brandzeichen on all targets hit by Meta.

Intensivierte Überprüfung - A good reduction to the cooldown of Sündhaftes Brandzeichen, has great synergy if playing Schicklichkeit im Ödland from Theotar the Mad Duke.

Schattentor A teleport can be situationally nice however for the same reasons the Night Fae signature was pretty useless outside of these moments for us.

OverviewVenthyrKyrianVenthyrKyrianBest Conduits and Soulbinds for Havoc Demon Hunter

Potency

Unerbittlicher Ansturm - For Raiding. This conduit will give us a great single target damage bonus which is the desired type of damage for most raiding encounters.

Wachsendes Inferno - For M+. A very solid buff to Feuerbrandaura in AoE and cleave making our sustained DPS noticeably stronger.

If your soulbind tree allow for two Potency conduit, use the two above in all situations. They are simply that good

Finesse - Finesse conduits do not provide great benefits for Havoc so if we pick them we will use them in this order.

Teufelsfeuertempo - a nice movement speed buff.

Gieriges Verschlingen - situationally nice but enemies having multiple buffs to purge is a rare occurrence, strong in PVP however.

Endurance

Zähflüssige Tinte - a flat magic damage reduction? Most damage taken from encounters is magic. This conduit is extremely strong in all content of the game.

Teufelsverteidiger - another strong defensive conduit on a short cooldown ability. This is great all around.

Zerschmetterte Wiederherstellung - especially strong when playing Dämonischer Appetit due to the extra orbs spawned, so some niche uses.

Best Soulbinds for Havoc Demon HunterVenthyrKyrian

Abenteuerlustig is a powerful haste buff with decent uptime in Raid, and very good uptime in Mythic+.

Agent des Chaos is a solid interrupt ability, with many possible uses in Mythic+.

Akribische Vorbereitung is just a permanent buff to consumables, which is always good.

Unerschrockener Duellant is a solid passive, equivalent to 3% Versatility. Unfortunately it requires a second Finesse conduit, putting it behind some others.

Die Vergangenheit loslassenLegendaries

Demon Hunter Legendaries

Kollektive Qual - This power is very strong. Provides very strong AoE burst and reliable single target damage also.

Dunkelste Stunde - 0 throughput benefits, RNG defensive as darkness does not guarantee any damage being prevented to begin with... very weak.

Dunkelblicksegen - This legendary provides a powerful buff... when it procs... With a 20% chance to proc the delta between good and bad pulls is very large. Very up or down feeling with this legendary. Numerically it is strong but in practice, reliable damage is almost always preferable.

Teufelsbombardement - This legendary synergize well with both Glevenmeister and Eifer des Gefechts. However with recent changes to how the legendary works, it is quite lack luster to use. The extra glaives are very buggy, but at least they don't pull extra adds anymore. The damage provided by this legendary is strong in all situations, but unfortunately it is still bugged and does not throw the correct amount of glaives resulting in a lot of damage lost.

Havoc Demon Hunter Legendaries

Brennende Wunde - Is a decent legendary on AoE and mostly for M+. It requires a lot of tab targeting to fully utilize but if you can maintain the debuff on multiple enemies the damage ramps up quickly.

Chaostheorie - Recently buffed and now a strong legendary for single target when using Erstes Blutvergießen. There is some RNG involved in proccing this but the bonus it provides is very very strong.

Dunklere Natur - Very strong bonus but the proc condition for this legendary are quite hard to meet. Holding Eye Beam for the end of a pull is very very bad as well and sniping killing blow isn't the easiest task to achieve.

Unbeständiger Teufelskern At first glance this looks amazing paired with Eifer des Gefechts but in reality the extra time we spend in Momentum is basically wasted as we do not currently have the resource generation to empower the added momentum uptime. Later in the expansion this legendary power will gain a lot of value.

Neutral Legendaries

Echo von Eonar - Was weak, buffed, and then nerfed. It has too low of a proc rate to be useful and the effect itself isn't even particularly powerful despite being random.

Urteilsspruch der Richterin - Same as every other legendary in this category. It does some damage but weak.

Schlundröcheln - Simply useless outside Torghast.

Norgannons Klugheit - We aren't casters. Useless.

Sephuz' Proklamation - This is decent in Mythic+ due to the high uptime on interrupts and stuns. It's a decent option but not quite as strong as others.

Stabiler Phantasmaköder - Something for world content? Probably unnecessary.

Drittes Auge des Kerkermeisters - Nice buff, but useless in PVE or PVP.

Vitalitätsopfer - Used to be good for Vengeance but for Havoc, pretty useless once again.

Choosing a LegendaryKollektive QualSeelenascheTeufelsbombardementConcerns Going ForwardThe performance of a spec does not correlate to how engaging / fun it is to playAugenstrahlChaosbrandmal

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Kommentar von PlsBlizzardnoRemovedKommentar von BlizzardPleaseI really hope you are trolling.Kommentar von FluffeepuffSinful brand is hasted, Elysian Decree is not.

Sim UBC vs Glaive Tempest for yourself, it comes out ahead in a lot of scenarios now that the 'new' UBC that was re-worked has such low damage.Kommentar von Wesvieth@PlsBlizzardno Amazing how many times one can be wrong in one comment.Kommentar von TrismusSinful brand is NOT the highest damage covenant ability to us. 338% atk pwr is < 350% atk pwr Elysian decree. Not to mention the kyrian ability is up every minute for aoe but Venthyr covenant ability can only be used in aoe whenever meta is up, the other time it’s single target only. Also how is necrolord not the best please explain. It’s a 30% damage increase for 20 seconds on top of a 15% damage reduction. Terrible guide. Glaive tempest are you kidding me? Unbound chaos.Kommentar von Stixx@PlsBlizzardno Glaive Tempest is very strong. The new UBC is hot garbage.Kommentar von BlizzardPleaseOkay I'm glad I wasn't the only one who saw the BS in PlsBlizzardno's post.Kommentar von psyquestSinful brand is NOT the highest damage covenant ability to us. 338% atk pwr is < 350% atk pwr Elysian decree. Not to mention the kyrian ability is up every minute for aoe but Venthyr covenant ability can only be used in aoe whenever meta is up, the other time it’s single target only. Also how is necrolord not the best please explain. It’s a 30% damage increase for 20 seconds on top of a 15% damage reduction. Terrible guide. Glaive tempest are you kidding me? Unbound chaos.Kommentar von StrozerWell i think this Havoc guide isn't so helpfull ;/Kommentar von Murkidan314Sinful brand is NOT the highest damage covenant ability to us. 338% atk pwr is < 350% atk pwr Elysian decree. Not to mention the kyrian ability is up every minute for aoe but Venthyr covenant ability can only be used in aoe whenever meta is up, the other time it’s single target only. Also how is necrolord not the best please explain. It’s a 30% damage increase for 20 seconds on top of a 15% damage reduction. Terrible guide. Glaive tempest are you kidding me? Unbound chaos.Kommentar von Jerby93Sinful brand is NOT the highest damage covenant ability to us. 338% atk pwr is < 350% atk pwr Elysian decree. Not to mention the kyrian ability is up every minute for aoe but Venthyr covenant ability can only be used in aoe whenever meta is up, the other time it’s single target only. Also how is necrolord not the best please explain. It’s a 30% damage increase for 20 seconds on top of a 15% damage reduction. Terrible guide. Glaive tempest are you kidding me? Unbound chaos.Kommentar von Murkidan314Well i think this Havoc guide isn't so helpfull ;/Kommentar von CrichtonSinful brand is NOT the highest damage covenant ability to us. 338% atk pwr is < 350% atk pwr Elysian decree. Not to mention the kyrian ability is up every minute for aoe but Venthyr covenant ability can only be used in aoe whenever meta is up, the other time it’s single target only. Also how is necrolord not the best please explain. It’s a 30% damage increase for 20 seconds on top of a 15% damage reduction. Terrible guide. Glaive tempest are you kidding me? Unbound chaos.Kommentar von PlsBlizzardnoSinful brand is NOT the highest damage covenant ability to us. 338% atk pwr is < 350% atk pwr Elysian decree. Not to mention the kyrian ability is up every minute for aoe but Venthyr covenant ability can only be used in aoe whenever meta is up, the other time it’s single target only. Also how is necrolord not the best please explain. It’s a 30% damage increase for 20 seconds on top of a 15% damage reduction. Terrible guide. Glaive tempest are you kidding me? Unbound chaos.Kommentar von PlsBlizzardnoSinful brand is NOT the highest damage covenant ability to us. 338% atk pwr is < 350% atk pwr Elysian decree. Not to mention the kyrian ability is up every minute for aoe but Venthyr covenant ability can only be used in aoe whenever meta is up, the other time it’s single target only. Also how is necrolord not the best please explain. It’s a 30% damage increase for 20 seconds on top of a 15% damage reduction. Terrible guide. Glaive tempest are you kidding me? Unbound chaos.Kommentar von PlsBlizzardnoRemovedKommentar von nick00000i like how its the WH OMEGALUL's that haven't even stepped foot into mythic are the people to correct everything xDKommentar von Murkidan314Sinful brand is NOT the highest damage covenant ability to us. 338% atk pwr is < 350% atk pwr Elysian decree. Not to mention the kyrian ability is up every minute for aoe but Venthyr covenant ability can only be used in aoe whenever meta is up, the other time it’s single target only. Also how is necrolord not the best please explain. It’s a 30% damage increase for 20 seconds on top of a 15% damage reduction. Terrible guide. Glaive tempest are you kidding me? Unbound chaos.Kommentar von KoxaHImagine thinking using Fel Rush offensively is a good idea and to pair it with useless talents. Lmao. No. You never do that, you'll quickly find yourself overwhelmed with flow and movement issues cause you used your Retreat and Rush to do some pathetic damage. Its a death and life situation in raids too.Kommentar von MoxxiKhazModanNothing about the Furious gaze nerf ?
It used to be stackable when it was an azerite trait. Now it just resets to 12 seconds when Eye beam is used after Meta reset.

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