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Kommentar von goblinego

Son of the Mighty Grom Hellscream.

Kommentar von 169548

same axes but he has cool new armor

Kommentar von Zanarkand

I doubt Grom would be happy to hear that his son is a Fury Warrior without Titan's Grip.

Edit: This just in, after several months of sustaining Garrosh's obnoxious whining, Saurfang finally caved in and decided to review the Fury talent tree.

Enter the new warrior talent, due to implementation in Cataclysm:

While we like how Titan's Grip plays, we recognize some warriors liked the Fury tree because of the really fast swings that dual-wielding one-handed weapons could provide. Therefore, we're planning to try out a talent called Single-Minded Fury that is parallel to Titan's Grip and will provide a large boost to the damage of a pair of one-handed weapons.

Kommentar von brenthebli

This guy is in Garadar, in the Burning Crusade. I wonder if he will be in 2 places at once, or have a new NPC to take his place.

Kommentar von 82875

At least they have moved one character from pre-tbc to bc, that is Rexxar. http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=21984 . In pre-tbc, Rexxar was wandering through Desolace and Feralas, with his Bear by his side, and was part of the chain to get the key to Onyxia's Lair. When BC was out, they moved him to Outlands and replaced him with a static character at Shadowprey Village called Rokaro: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=21984 . So I guess this will be pretty similar, leaving a "placeholder" behind at Garadar and moving him here.

Kommentar von switch89a

i assume it will be like thrall, in that he can exist is multiple places at once.

Kommentar von 168444

another might warrior of the horde.....hope he will stand out like his father did...

Kommentar von 192632

He would be in garadar and Borean tundra, due to the fact when you lvl around the 60's you meet him, once you hit around the 70's some time has passed and garrosh now is in the northrend, of course if you go back to garadar to complete some old quests he would be there but that is abit out of timeline :P

Kommentar von 153992

Garrosh Hellscream, along with Thrall, High Overlord Saurfang, Sylvanas Windrunner, and Grand Apothecary Putress are staged outside the Ring of Valor in Orgrimmar during Phase 8 of the Scourge Invasion. He challenges the Horde Warchief and nearly defeats him before the Lich King's forces breach the city.

Kommentar von domacleod

Uh.. interesting : his son has NO RESEMBLING with his father..
His father was green-skinned | son is brown-skinned...
Not even the eyes are same color, or the hair.

Kommentar von 112924

kill the stupid troll above me...
Grom and like any orc infected with demon power turned green,while orcs that remained untouched by fel powers keeped the brown color and guess what,Grom and any Freaking Powerful Orc warrior going into Fury their eyes turn red (see Saurfang)

Kommentar von Kylinee

He has an awesome flavor converation with High Overlord Saurfang while standing in the Hold.
Transcribed at Blizzplanet.

High Overlord Saurfang: We are surrounded ... Our enemies press in from all sides, young Hellscream. The Scourge descends like locust from the north. The Alliance holds the only secure shipping lane in this region and even that is at risk of being lost to those dreaded mists. Our only viable port for resupply is held by the Forsaken on the other side of this blasted continent! Anything our zeppelins cannot haul must be brought in by ship and travel the length of Northrend to reach us.

(Garrosh Hellscream grunts)

Garrosh Hellscream: Shipping lanes ... supplies ... You bore me to death! We need nothing more than the warrior spirit of the Horde, Saurfang! Now that we are firmly entrenched in this frozen wasteland, nothing shall stop us!

Saurfang: Siege engines, ammunition, heavy armor ... How do you propose to shatter the walls of Icecrown without those?

Garrosh: Propose? I will show you what I propose! There ... (Garrosh crushes some figures on the battle map on the ground) Now we now have a shipping lane. And just for good measure ... (He crushes another group of figures)

Saurfang: So the prodigal son has spoken! Your father's blood runs strong in you, Hellscream. Impatient as always ... Impatient and reckless. You rush headlong into all-out war without a thought of the consequences.

Garrosh: Do not speak to me of consequences, old one.

Saurfang: I drank of the same blood your father did, Garrosh. Mannoroth's cursed venom pumped through my veins as well. I drove my weapons into the bodies and minds of my enemies. And while Grom died a glorious death - freeing us all from the blood curse - he could not wipe away the terrible memory of our past. His act could not erase the horrors we committed.

(High Overlord Saurfang pauses)

The winter after the curse was lifted, hundreds of veteran orcs like me were lost to despair. Our minds were finally free, yes ... Free to relive all of the unthinkable acts that we had performed under the Legion's influence.

(High Overlord Saurfang nods.)

I think it was the sounds of the draenei children that unnerved most of them ... You never forget ... Have you ever been to Jaggedswine Farm? When the swine are of age for the slaughter ... It's that sound. The sound of the swine being killed ... It resonates the loudest. Those are hard times for us older veterans.

Garrosh: But surely you cannot think that those children were born into innocence? They would have grown up and taken arms against us!

(High Overlord Saurfang shakes his head)

Saurfang: I am not speaking solely of the children of our enemies ...

(High Overlord Saurfang pauses)

I won't let you take us down that dark path again, young Hellscream. I'll kill you myself before that day comes ...

Garrosh: How have you managed to survive for so long, Saurfang? Not fallen victim to your own memories?

Saurfang: I don't eat pork ...

(High Overlord Saurfang spits.)

Kommentar von 174016

This guy reminds me a bit about Arthas, just before he got Frostmourne.
Lets just say i think that Garrosh is gonna respecc to arms (if you know what i mean)

Kommentar von 258430

He gets his butt handed to him by Arthas in Dragonblight.

Kommentar von Kimikk

Grom and like any orc infected with demon power turned green,while orcs that remained untouched by fel powers keeped the brown color and guess what,Grom and any Freaking Powerful Orc warrior going into Fury their eyes turn red (see Saurfang)

This is incorrect, the orcs turned green because of the evironment that they stayed in after the First War with the Humans(Swamp of Sorrows).

Kommentar von 120680

If you wanna see a Replay from where Grommash Hellscream were killed then go here http://www.wegame.com/watch/Grom_Hellscream_and_Thrall_Kills_Mannoroth/

Kommentar von 172606

Dialogue when you click on him:

The razing of Orgrimmar was not just an attack against orcs. It was an affront to the Horde. An assault against our very existence!

The Lich King sought to sow the seeds of fear.

This...

<Garrosh points to the fortified walls that surround him.>

This is the result of Arthas's Campaign.

The Horde fears nothing...

Kommentar von 178074

I did the Naggrand questline before going to Borean Tundra and he greeted my toon with respect, saying thx for all that stuff. I'll try later with a toon that hasn't done that questline and see if the speech is any different (in order to see if the game just asumes you did/know that or if it really check if you done it and slects his speech accordingly).

Kommentar von donmarker

There's a letter you gain in Dragonblight, sent from Saurfang, that makes Garrosh seem, not as a proud warlord of the horde forces but a crazed orc leading his forces into "a dark place", which can only be enterpreted as demons clutch.

The item is called "letter from saurfang" and the text below is copied from it.

"If you are reading this letter then you are alive and in one piece - or at least you still have your eyes.

I must apologize for the secrecy. Agmar demands that all mail is read before delivery - too many traitors and thieves there, as the wanted poster no doubt displays. There are delicate matters herein that could easily be misconstrued by the new guard.

For a soldier of the Horde, loss is absolute. Loss means death and there is no negotiation or interpretation with death. One can only hope that the manner of their death was honorable.

But victory... Victory can mean many things. As you have probably noticed, the Kor'kron are there in full force. The Warchief has sent his elite guard to help secure victory in Northrend. They, along with you and other heroes, are pushing the Lich King and his forces towards an inevitable conclusion. With each challenge you overcome, we are one step closer to ridding our world of Arthas and the Scourge.

And therein lays the dilemma. For you see, our forces in Northrend work under the auspices of young Hellscream. Each victory bolsters the morale of the Horde forces here, which carries through to the rest of Azeroth.

It is unfortunate, then, that Hellscream employs such savage tactics. As victory approaches, Hellscream gains further justification for his methods, which in turn brings us closer to a place we have not been in many years: a dark place.

I have sent my son to command our forces at the Wrathgate. I know that he will battle with honor and I remain hopeful that his courage and tenacity will be noticed and emulated by our forces. He is my heart and strength in a place that I cannot be... You will be my eyes and ears. Together, we will make it right.

Blood and Thunder... May your arrival bring them both.

Saurfang"

Kommentar von 243362

Okay Garrosh is clearly fury warrior. If he would ever get frostmourne(sword of the Lich King) why not add Titans Grip and get anorther legendary sword. It could turn up really bad with Garrosh as Lich King...Very angry orc who thinks he can win every battle he fights. Very strong, Could Titan's Grip Frostmourne with anorther strong weapon. And he appears to be a good warrior. Since he defeats Thrall

Kommentar von 284290

Imagine him wielding Frostmourne and Ashbringer :O

Kommentar von Xandin

Any info on abilities or damage that he does? Any Alliance try attacking him yet?

Kommentar von 297383

zomg whod grom have sex with?

Kommentar von AnotherName

Tried to test his abilities as a pally, using bubble before dying.
He's linked to saurfang, making my death fairly quick. While I bubbled, he didn't use any special abilities. He was hitting me (with 55% damage reduction) for 1.5-2k offhand and 4.5-5k main hand.
He's also linked to like 8 elite guards. If a hunter could get a pally to bubble and be bait, it'd probably be possible to kite him out of his hold.

Kommentar von 314962

Garrosh is just stupid

Kommentar von 258919

Garrosh Hellscream, son of the orc hero Grom Hellscream, is the commander of the Warsong Offensive sub-faction of the Horde Expedition in Northrend. If you hang around him, you can find out that he is quite an impatient leader. In fact, the only thing keeping him in check is Saurfang. But hell, if Saurfang was watching my every move, I'd shut up for a second too.

Kommentar von 256123

I decided to see for myself just how powerful Saurfang was... Unfortunately this guy 1-shotted me with his Whirlwind before Saurfang even drew his weapon. On the Garrosh server, no less.

Kommentar von 336549

i am a troll ice mage but dang grom would be proud.but how is grom a corrupt orc and his sn a full fleged orc. i mean all horde orcs are corrupt orcs cuz they are green the brown ones well i forgot there name but there are the uncorrupted orcs from out land

Kommentar von 345326

after the 3.1 ulduar trailer i can finally tell it:

Garrosh is a Jerk!

Kommentar von 349216

Garrosh seems to be a very hot tempered fellow. What bothered me about doing quests for him in Borean Tundra, was the complete lack of respect in all his dialogue. I'm a player with high level toons on both the Horde, and Alliance, and I have to say I really hate the direction both sides are going in with hotheads like this clown, and Varien in charge of the important decision making.

Kommentar von 153834

Hmpf.
In Ulduar video he ruins the fellowship with the Alliance, however, Thrall tells he to not.
Freaking smelly orc-mongrel.

Kommentar von Jenrama

RESPONSE TO A COMMENT SAYING SAURFANG HAD BROX'S AXE AND ANOTHER COMMENT SAYING BROX HAD A WOODEN AXE.

Brox had a axe crafted for his battle during the closing of the portal around the well of eternity or w/e, i can't remember everything, but Brox somehow went back in time, Cenarius crafted a wooden magic axe that Brox used to slay thousands of demons and even entering the twisted nether as their bodies piled up, and in a last ditch attempt even gave Sargaras' leg a little cut from a blow with the axe, course Big S just squished him after the well of eternity was closed and imploded on itself. Saurfang has his own axe, as both the Magically enchanted Wooden axe Brox used was lost in the twisting nether and Brox's old battle axe which shattered before the fight to close up the well of eternity occured.

Kommentar von 121958

A confrontation between King Varian Wrynn takes place in Dalaran, in the new Ulduar 3.1 trailer.

Link to trailer

We see Garrosh's brutality and anger once again.

Kommentar von 354778

I don't believe that killing both Garrosh and Varian (or transforming them into death-knights) is such a great idea. So what if they cling to old hatreds? Now what, you want that the Alliance and Horde to become a big family? I'm personally glad that they appeared in the scene, and they are as they are. They make things much more interesting. There is no fun without a conflict.

Kommentar von 92105

Garrosh Hellscream is the worst thing to happen to the Horde since Sylvanas and her Royal Apothecary Society.

Varian Wrynn, whether you know or accept it, has some justification for finally snapping and declaring war on the Horde. There's a lot of history there.

Garrosh, on the other hand, is a complete tool. You first see him in Outland, with the largest remnant of the uncorrupted Orcish peoples and what's he doing? Being a mopey bastard waiting to get his head impaled on some Ogre's pointy stick, along with the rest of his people.
Then "The Horde Hero" comes along and cleans up all the problems the Mag'har have and eventually gets Thrall to go and beat him around the head.

And now? Apparently now he's completely polarized and is acting like a twat because...I'm not sure why. His whole character has gone from hopeless waste of space to some incarnation of the "Us and Them" mentality.
If there's any justice in the world, he'll go the way of Krenna in Grizzly Hills.

Kommentar von Blackboy0

It seems that he Dual Wields two Bleeding Crescent's.

If he does wield those two Axes, it must make him have some enormous rends. (/sarcasm)

Kommentar von 408250

In Ptr he seems alot more evil then thrall dose that mean that Garrosh Hellscream might want to take over as the leader and kill thrall ?

Kommentar von 422111

i think blizzard made varyan and that guy so hot tempered and hating each others factions in order to increase the hatred between alliance and horde.I mean all those years horde and alliance are officialy/unofficially in war and without particular reason.No faction leader provoked war,why some1 declare war to horde which is under control o one of the most peacfull chars in warcraft.So by creating those two characters blizz gave a present reason for war( just killing each other because of old hatred isnt logical)

Also in my opinion blizz wanna make garrosh look like his father who was hot tempered and irrational sometimes but ended up doing something extremely good.i think that guy will also end up doing something good for the horde.that's just my opinion:D

Kommentar von 392114

Go Garrosh, i am with you! Lok'Tar Ogar crush the alliance! FOR THE HORDE!

PS. Yes i am totally with garrosh, we should not act like cowards, instead we should crush everything in our path

Kommentar von 368042

Garrosh will lead the Horde to loss because, when he wants to, like his father, he will attack Alliance settlments instead of Scourge bases, and such allow them to gain in power.

Look at Mightstone Quarry, I'm sure there were advance warnings...and now look at the bloody mess.

Kommentar von hnim

People who say he's like Varian are ridiculous. Varian has an actual reason for hating the Horde, but he even tried to make peace with them and atleast was semi reasonable with them at the tournament. Garrosh never misses an opportunity to insult the Alliance, and he doesn't even seem to have any personal reason to hold a grudge. Varian may be a bit close-minded, but seeing your own people getting experimented on and tortured just for the sake of fun can make anyone angry. In fact, I'm surprised he hadn't declared war earlier. While he was gone, the forsaken were busy terrorizing and murdering innocent people in Hillsbrad, taking control of Arathi, and torturing citizens of the Alliance.

Kommentar von 113739

In light of this and his comments to Thrall in the 3.1 patch trailer ("A TRUE warchief would never partner with cowards!") I wonder if we're setting up for a future storyline where Garrosh openly challenges Thrall for the leadership of the orcs and/or Horde. There is supposed to be similar tension between followers of Varian Wrynn and those of Jaina Proudmoore, who see her as the real leader of the Alliance. Perhaps we could see a civil war within both factions...and maybe a third faction emerging, one led jointly by Thrall and Jaina made up of those who are tired of the Alliance/Horde conflict and want to concentrate on taking on their real enemies, as opposed to Wrynn and Hellscream who are intent on fomenting a Fourth War regardless of the consequences? Just a thought. EDIT: The rumors around the Cataclysm expansion at this time follow what I said earlier, with Thrall handing over control of the Horde to Garrosh (who promptly declares open war on the Alliance) ~~and then being named the new Guardian of Tirisfal by the recently-returned Malfurion Stormrage~~. He then serves as the leader of the combined Alliance-Horde assault against Deathwing, much as Tirion Fordring does in the assault against the Lich King as head of the Argent Crusade.

EDIT:

As of 3.2.0, the argument between Thrall and Garrosh continues. They arrive at the Argent Tournament grounds and wind their way to just in front of the flight master, where the following exchange ensues (this and the following event are on a timer of approximately 45 minutes):

Thrall says: I expect you to control yourself here. I do not want a repeat of the Violet Citadel.

Garrosh Hellscream says: Pah! That was a show of strength, worthy of a leader. I only regret I did not kill that human before the mage interfered.

Thrall says: We are guests here, Garrosh, and you will conduct yourself honorably.

Garrosh Hellscream says: What honor is there in thrashing about with blunted sticks? This is a waste of time.

Thrall and Garrosh then continue walking to the start of the western entrance tunnel to the Coliseum, where Tirion Fordring greets them:

Highlord Tirion Fordring says: Welcome, Warchief Thrall. Overlord Hellscream.

Thrall says: Thank you for the invitation, Lord Fordring. We look forward to observing these games.

Garrosh Hellscream says: Speak for yourself, Thrall.

Highlord Tirion Fordring says: I hope you will see the merit of these events in time, Garrosh. We cannot win against the Scourge if we continue to war against one other.

Thrall says: Wise words.

Garrosh Hellscream says: Words of a fool, you mean. The Horde will destroy the undead without your aid, human, or that of the pompous king.

Thrall says: Garrosh, enough!

Highlord Tirion Fordring says: Under my roof, gentlemen, I trust you will behave.

Thrall says: Of course, Tirion. I apologize for his outburst. It will not be repeated.

Garrosh Hellscream says: Bah.

Highlord Tirion Fordring says: If you will follow me, then.

The three then set off down the corridor, despawning just before entering the Argent Coliseum.

EDIT 2: WoW Manga has now established Med'an--the love child of Medivh and Garona Halforcen--as the new Guardian of Tirisfal, and promotional art released by Blizzard would seem to indicate that Alexstraza will lead the fight against Deathwing. What Thrall's role in Cataclysm will be, then, is still up in the air, at least for those not involved in the Alpha.

Kommentar von 419653

The New (New) Horde
Thrall will hand over the leadership of the Horde to Garrosh Hellscream, while he serves as a coordinator for both the Horde and Alliance forces in and effort to combat the new threat of the Naga and Black Dragonflight. Without Thrall to keep Garrosh in check, he declares open war on the Alliance. In the political upheaval Cairne Bloodhoof is implicated as a traitor to the Horde and murdered by Garrosh. Cairne's son Baine takes over as the new Tauren chieftan.

Kommentar von 234632

The Horde's favourite Drama Queen!

Kommentar von 419653

Ooooohhhh....... >_<'' well i had to know that, well my reaction on drama queen was a little to much..... i said that because all of my posts are being purged or they say Mazzio wtf does that mean or they say that i am a forum troll :''(

i take it back.

Kommentar von 231827

this guy should of died instead of grom

Kommentar von 165543

can he be kited?

Kommentar von 271275

I came here looking for a guide about killing him (what his attacks are, anything special I should know before trying, etc) and didn't see any.

Then i realized he's standing next to Saurfang. I think I'll let him live after all.

Kommentar von AnotherName

Additional info: The site's number for his health is correct.
If you're geared for tanking, he'll only hit for 1-1.5k; an almost negligible amount with a healer. He'd be soloable by some tanks if he weren't linked to saurfang.

He doesn't have any special abilities and can be kited, having no leash range. However, no matter how far you kite him, saurfang will follow. Saurfang is also unkitably fast.

It would take a large group to DPS him down before saurfang causes a wipe, as he has a mortal strike in the 10 000s, and an AoE fear.

Kommentar von 164918

Confirmed to be the Warchief in Cataclysm.

Neo-Nazi Orgrimmar is under attack!
: omg garrosh is under atk by alliance we should help him
: WTS Frost Lotus x12, 100g each
: he can die imo
: wow rip off much?
: shut up ur bad
: he deserves to die
: y?
: he's dead, thank you alliance!

Kommentar von 145425

It makes sense for him to be the new Warchief, I suppose... given that Varian is still King of Stormwind, they are perfect opposites for each other. Garrosh will never truly know peace, and neither will Varian - who still refers to orcs as "green-skins" and would gladly see them all exterminated, along with the rest of the Horde. This all fits into the "Bizarro World"-like concept that is going to be Cataclysm, with everything flipped topsy-turvy. With Garrosh and Varian in command, there will be nothing but war.

My one hope, which will probably never be realized: Varian is replaced by Jaina Proudmoore, and Garrosh is replaced by Saurfang.

Kommentar von Ooko

I wonder if the fact that he is dual-wielding one-handers is a conscious move on Blizzard's part to make him look like more of a punk, or just a coincidence.

Kommentar von R1TeR

The Boss ~~rick ross~~ Garrosh

Kommentar von Fwibbles

Garrosh, my TOTC raid would like to talk to you next expansion.

Kommentar von Rasmushansen

apperently hes gonna be the new leader of the horde
http://www.wowwiki.com/Garrosh

Kommentar von 242632

Garrosh likes PIGS!

Kommentar von 125268

Right, it seems some people are actually looking in here to see how to solo him.

Use the following steps:
1. Be a paladin:
Seriously, you'll need to block their hits as much as you can, and heal over 1k hps with just your judgement of light and seal of light.
2. Be an awesomely geared paladin:
I did this in ToTC gear, mix of 10 heroic and 25 normal, focussed on block, hitting 3k block value with my libram from ulduar 25
3. Have time
They have a combined 4 million HP, even though you'll have some aoe on em it's gonna take a while.
4. Now pull them!
Clear a few guards inside warsong hold, just enough to have a clear run out. Keep attacking either Saurfang or Garrosh, they can't be separated, but you can get rid of their guards by running out of the hold, this is probably a must, as the chance you'll be feared into mobs is rather high.
5. don't get caught by the horde
Any CC, any damage, will likely kill you. I did this in the middle of the night myself to avoid them.
6. Don't let Saurfang evade
Saurfang can fear you into funny places, you don't want that to happen. I ruined my first kite attempt (kiting him to the alliance camp in howling fjord) when he feared me into a nasty spot near the border of grizzly hills, when he started evading.
7. Keep focussed
Don't let your seals drop, don't let your judgement go off, keep holy shield up. If anything goes wrong, let them "kill" you, proccing argent defender. If you're still panicing, use Hand of Protection or Divine shield, heal yourself up (cancel divine plea before finishing the heal, refresh it once you're out of protection again). You have LoH as last resort. Satrinas scarab can help for a 4k "heal" as the temporary HP you get from it doesn't disapear.

Tips to speed up the kill while still "soloing":
Valiance keep is near, so are your faction friends. It's still quite a ride though and will take at least 5 minutes.

Fun things to do:
Saurfang whirlwinds, don't forget to move him over any lowbies you meet.
FYI: Saurfings whirlwind can hit me for 7k on 30k armor

Some screenshots:
Taken shortly after the pull and run from warsong hold:
http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b95/Mewnine/?action=view&current=WoWScrnShot_102709_020400.jpg
Death of Garrosh, easier time now as Saurfang is much easier to kite than the bugger himself, + garrosh only has 1 million HP:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b95/Mewnine/WoWScrnShot_102709_022339.jpg
Mining, as you can see saurfangs damage is rather predictable, he sometimes doesn't even attack you.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b95/Mewnine/WoWScrnShot_102709_024020.jpg
Shortly before Saurfang evaded on me:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b95/Mewnine/WoWScrnShot_102709_024020.jpg

I'm going to kite them into Valiance Keep in a few minutes, to see how that works out.

Kommentar von 437970

Shame that as time goes on, the 'top dogs' of the horde get worse. After the whole Gul'dan incident, we had people of legends, such as Brox and Drek'thar. Then we move on to Thrall and Grom. Grom wasn't bad, he redeemed himself bigtime by saving the orc race from Mannoroth (thrall didn't stand a chance without the blood in him).

Now Thrall will be gone sooner or later, hopefully bringing Sylvanas, Cairne (if he dies /wrist), and Mr.Bloodelf with him. (So rarely mentioned anywhere, I don't know his name.) Hopefully Varian and Garrosh will end up killing eachother and everyone will be rid of them. Then Thrall and Jaina can work at peace between the two factions again.

Kommentar von 395903

Garrosh has anger problems.

Kommentar von voltdude357

Is it me or is Garrosh a bit strange, he is meant to be a Mag'har (as his skin is brown) which means he hasn't been touched by the bloodlust...but he quite voilent.

Kommentar von Tadpole

Definetly one of the best characters horde has. Thrall is peaceful peacemonger, civilized and boring, nothing like an orc. Vol'jin is just Thralls lackey going /afk, Cairne is busy playing /brb picking flowers in TB, Sylvanas is just /emo and most of the time sulking in UC.

Horde wouldn't be horde without Garrosh. Atleast he brings some REAL conflict between Horde and Alliance. He brings "war" into "warcraft".

Kommentar von Ragmarok

Sylvanas is just /emo and most of the time sulking in UC.

I hope patch 3.3 changes your opinion about that

and Horde doesnt need Garrosh to be Horde...we already got SAURFANG! how the hell can you forget this ~~guy~~... ermmm CLEAVER?

also because you forgot him you will be cleaved 1337 times and your children and your grandchildren too
and if you like garrosh u better dont stand next to him because he gets cleaved too

also Garrosh is too reckless and good for nothing while saurfang just walks into the bar and cleaves the whole place up its pure awesomeness!

Kommentar von 523179

Yo, Garrosh, I'm happy for you and imma let you finish, but Thrall was one of the best leaders OF ALL TIME!

Kommentar von Kasandora

I'd %^&* him

Kommentar von 451455

Garrosh Hellscream action figure

Kommentar von 514575

Our soon to be mighty leader. I'm not a fan of the whole hot-headed warmonger anymore than Thrall is. But it would seem Varion is looking for war. Thrall, like it or not, is a diplomat. He will not do what is necessary to protect the Horde from Varions onslaught. Someone has to stand up for the Horde now that the Alliance are no longer fair weather friends and Varion has declared war on us. Thrall will try and struggle for peace while war is inevitable. And besides he will have his hands full with the return of Deathwing. Garrosh will carry the Horde to glory on his shoulders and Thrall will continue to serve the world and people he loves in a more hands-on nutral shamanistic manner.

Kommentar von 487591

Now I hate him even more.
Look. Tauren lived in peaceful (relatively) Kalimdor for thousands years, until orcs came and things changed. Of course, orcs helped the Bloodhoof tribe to stop centaur genocide of tauren people, but they also lured tauren into the war with night elves who were tauren's allies in previous times. And now Garrosh executes Bloodhoof warchief Cairne as a traitor. Isn't it... I just cannot find the word...
Now I have more reasons to storm Orgrimmar every day and kill Garrosh. Every day.

Kommentar von dreadblood

if u look behind him u see a chair like thralls.. delusions of grandeur much?, also @voltdude357, all orcs have that bloodlust, the demons blood just brought it out and magnified it (see saurfang the younger)

Kommentar von stef200610

In Cata he will probably be the new warchife/horde leader as seen on http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20140811645&sid=1
Carine Bloodhoof is said to be killed by Garrosh as well as Thrall ,nothing is know atm so we'll have to wait for the official response on that ... if there will ever be one until cata comes out hopfully they won't spoil it

Kommentar von 327901

I'm an Alliance and got Hellscream into Valliance Keep... He died, and Saurfang survived.

Kommentar von PocketPaladin

So... is anyone else going to roll Alliance in Catacylsm just to kill Garrosh? :)

Kommentar von 514575

Anyone know where I can get the tabard he's wearing?

Kommentar von Likkan

To now ive seen him 1v1 against Thrall and Varian, he rapes Jaina, insulted Thrall High Overlord Saurfang Brann Tirion Varian (and good likely you) and sending pretty much every horde member in Borean Tundra on Suicide Missions and I heard him repeatably say 'Hurr hurr we dont need siege or preperations! WE ARE WARRIORS!' but ive never seen HIM fight The Scourge or more than a single alliance member at the time (without High Overlord Saurfang at his side)...

He has well earned the nickname Ragepants Mcjerkscream amongst the forums I belive.

I dont really hate the guy but hes gonna have to do a good load of dailys to earn friendly with me....

Kommentar von Thundrfang

Cataclysm lore taken from http://www.wowwiki.com/Garrosh_Hellscream Garrosh has been confirmed as the new leader (officially named "acting Warchief") of the Horde. Now in charge, Garrosh evicts the majority of non-orc and non-tauren from central Orgrimmar, believing only they possess the strength to truly defend the city. However, every race is still accounted for and while being a tough leader, Garrosh sees value in all the races that belong to the Horde and uses them to the best of that value. He also begins remodeling the city with dark metal, similar to Warsong Hold and other Horde bases in Northrend.

Kommentar von 619615

In my opinion i think garrosh is just trying to be like his father and be a hero of the horde he probaly thinks by conquering all of azeroth for the horde would give him honor just like his father but i guess hes taken it too far

Kommentar von 648378

Yeah, here's hoping we can get rid of Garrosh. If they won't let us keep Thrall, we should at least get a competent replacement.

SAURFANG FOR WARCHIEF!

Kommentar von Ragmarok

To be Horde... and The Warchief Cometh actualy made me(and more people) respect Garrosh a little more he still has to do better(btw if you want the chat for To be Horde.. check wowwiki... no one posted it in comments yet).

Kommentar von Thundrfang

thrall is an idiot to make garrosh the new warchief. he will tear the horde apart. he's already killed cairne bloodhoof in a duel. he should have just made saurfang the warchief.

Kommentar von 111622

I just tried kiting these two somewhere, but in the Bloodspore Plains, at the intersection there, they disappeared. Hopefully they didn't fix this.

Kommentar von Incomingheal

Strangely, this instance of Garrosh in Borean doesn't have the new model. That seems like a pretty big oversight.

Kommentar von 580283

Garrosh is Arthas' son.

Kommentar von saruu

@Jessealot
I realize that now,that comment was posted back almost 6 months ago,I do realize that now >.<.
Days before the book of the shattering was released.

Kommentar von 438574

Soloed as a Blood DK.
Ran in. Army.
Tanked till he died.

Got no loot. Took Saurfang with him.
Yes, this post has no point, unless somehow it changed the past and made him not be warchief.

Kommentar von FunPika

Out of impatience waiting for 5.4 and while doing Midsummer Festival stuff, I stopped by here and found that Garrosh was very easily solo'd as a 90 Windwalker Monk (ilvl 500). Nothing really special needs to be done, just tank and spank.

Kommentar von OptimalNorway

Even oak stakes are smarter than this Orc.

Kommentar von Archvaldor

Both Saurfang and Hellcscream are easy to take down by well-geared alliance players. There are no 95 guards in warsong hold so they won't give you much trouble.

Very satisfying given all the crap Hellscream pulls subsequently to kill him repeatedly.

Interesting bit of lore: when you attack Saurfang the text says "Saurfang's eyes glow red for a brief moment".

Kommentar von Nofarian

Note: Garrosh actually scales with your level, so to speak.
So, if you wanna fight Garrosh - bring friends. Garrosh doesn't have any abilities but hits hard and fast.

Garrosh Höllschrei <Oberanführer der Kriegshymnenoffensive>

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