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Kommentar von XACru

short cut to Beth'tilac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLeEt_w8GaI

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Kommentar von 833162

The misconception I see with this boss is in the management of the raid. In a lot of ways, this is a burn phase in three small transition parts, and then a final fourth burn phase.

To accomplish downing the boss correctly, Cinderweb Drones and Spiderlings get priority, specifically because Drones will siphon off fire energy from Beth'tilac. The spiderlings are hurtful because Drones and the boss can consume these for 20% of the spiderlings' health, as well as gaining speed buffs.

The goal is to make the three phases in which your transition team kills spinners to go upstairs and burn the boss as long as possible. By taking down drones fast, it negates their ability to drain energy from the boss, and by burning the spiderlings, you prevent the drones from getting back health.

On the PTR, most people noticed guilds staying 'up top' anywhere from 2 - 5 minutes, with some reports stating they kept those phases at 5 or more minutes at times. This prevents the boss from "over-enraging" (her Frenzy stacks are, as of now, so overly done and quick, there is a large need to extended those three transitions as long as possible to deal as much DPS as possible, and not be in the final phase for too long before the AOE and tank damage becomes unhealable).

Kommentar von 712875

the texture work on this spider is amazing!

Kommentar von 844071

Quick strategy overview:
Phase 1

get 1 tank with a healer and as many melees as you can spare on top of the web
let the rest kill adds on the ground
avoid the meteors on top
get down when beth casts her smoldering devastation
gather on the ground to maximze healing during ember flare

Phase 2

switch tanks when one gets widows kiss
use bloodlust/heroism to dps beth down as fast as you can
rotate defensive cds if beth gets more then 10 frenzy stacks

Kommentar von GraveDiggerX

Strategy Guide & Video:

Below I have written a guide as well as demonstrate how we did this boss.

Our Group:

2 Tank - | Druid | DK |
3 Healers - | Paladin | Shaman | Priest |
5 DPS - | Warlock | Mage | Hunter | Death Knight | Rogue |

General Boss Information:

This boss is a 2 phase encounter.
She summons adds and sprays fire/magma to try and kill the raid
It is a fairly simple encounter and mainly just a gear check

Boss Abilities:

---Phase 1: (Not % based)

Upon engaging Beth, she retreats to her canopy and begins casting a magma spew that damages all members of the raid until a player goes to the canopy with her... which is reached by mounting on the remaining webs of dead spiders.
Shortly after engaging, she will spawn groups of adds...

1 Cinderweb Drone

A large spider that needs to be tanked
He does a frontal cone AoE magma spew, so turn it away from the raid
Also casts Burning Acid on random players
We had our rogue on this add the whole time with help from everyone else when there was nothing to do.

4-6 Cinderweb Spinners

These are medium sized spiders that dangle from webs, and will remain there until taunted down.
They don't do much damage and have ~230k HP
Also casts Burning Acid on random players
Once these spiders die, their webs can be used to reach the top of the canopy... We usually send the tank first, followed by a healer and then 1-2 DPS.
We had our hunter solo these during this phase

15ish Cinderweb Spiderlings

Run around casting Seeping Venom if they get too close to a player.
Have very little health and can be AoE down easily
We had our DK solo these easily

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These adds will spawn as groups with the numbers stated above. You will get them after each Smoldering Devastation, which she will cast once her mana reaches zero.
You want to make sure that the people going up jump down through a hole in the canopy as she starts casting this ability. While up top, all you have to do is DPS and watch out for the Meteors that she casts. There is an effect on the ground and it's pretty easy to avoid
Smoldering Devastation will happen 3 times before entering Phase 2

---Phase 2:

Phase 2 starts after the third Smoldering Devastation cast.
Make sure the adds are dead when she enters P2 because she will consume them and get healed up.
This phase is 100% a burn phase.
Have everyone in your raid stack, except for the 2 tanks. This is due to The Widow's Kiss. When this happens, tank swap.
Alongside the kiss, Beth will begin to slowly enrage by casting Frenzy every few seconds. This stacks indefinitely until the end of the encounter.
Finally, the hardest part of P2 is Ember Flare, which is cast periodically and hits the whole raid. Stack up and use CDs to survive the latter part of this phase

Tips:

Send as much DPS up top as you can to get as much damage on her as possible without getting overrun below.
Execution is key, but fairly easy... just kill what you need to and avoid meteors
Don't be bad.

I wish you the best of luck, and feel free to critique my post and ask any questions.

Please uprate if this helped at all!

A link to our video on YouTube is HERE so you can see how it's done. Please rate and subscribe to see our upcoming videos!

~Wrex | Pseudonym | Executus-US

@Archh yea, the bottom healing isn't bad once someone is up top. We even contemplated sending 2 healers up. It's just up to your strengths and weaknesses. Also, I have the iLvLs of all of our members at the end of my videos... You can just go to the end if you want to see them.

Kommentar von demnok

can the Smoldering Devastation penetrate immue effect like Divine Shield?

Kommentar von 849853

I'm having trouble getting my Raid group past the last set of Adds just outside Beth's Chamber. Its the one with the Large Fire Shield and the Mobs under it that are being attacked by Spiders. Any helpful suggestions?

Kommentar von kaytie

She is skinnable, but has a high requirement (over 530: with max skill + Gatherer, still red).

Kommentar von Mythricia

My guilds first kill on this happened with Beth'tilac starting the burn phase at 100% health... Somewhat to our surprise, we just healed a lot, burned her down, and all was fine. 1 person dead if I remember. This on 25man, Normal.

And we're not that amazing of a guild.. So. To me, this seems like something that'll get "fixed", since it's already a viable repeatably strategy, even more so once people get more gear. Just get a tank and 1 healer up top as usual, DPS ignore it, wait for her to come down, blow Hero and just kill it. Basicly a true tank & spank with higher healing requirements..

Fun times.

Kommentar von hawke

BTW: we are being overrun below with just 10 man non-heroic gear from previous instances. Need quite significant dps here.

Our setup had only one member geared in heroic, rest was T11 bought with JP or 359 from previous raid. Some lucky 378 mixed in, but nothing much, and we downed her (10 man). So it's def. doable if you have raiding like gear and a group that knows what to do

We sent 1 tank (druid), 1 healer (me, holy pal with fire resist aura) and 1 DPS uptop (single target DPS , mage), everyone else was bottom handling spiders. She went into phase 2 at about 84%, but I honestly think we would've down her even if she was at 100%. When the fight was over, most healers still had over 50% mana, and we only had one tank dead due to a bad taunt swap, but didnt even use brez on him since the boss was close to dying anyway.

Like others said, phase 2 is a big tank and spank. If you're healer are competent / geared enough, you can clearly take her down from 100-0% in phase 2.

Kommentar von 616836

For raids with little to no 372s from the previous raid tier, you may want to leave all DPS at the bottom in Phase 1 and send only a tank and healer to the top. We were 12/12 1/13 and we tried sending our Fury Warrior up. We were having issues with being overrun by adds. To make Phase 1 Beth healing easier, we rotated tanks. Blood DK (me) went up first, then the Prot Pally, then me again. I used IBF right off the bat the first time I went up and by the time I went back up, IBF was about 4 seconds from being off CD. Tank and healer going up 3 times could bring Beth down to about 90% before Phase 2. However, could have been RNG, but whenever we went to Phase 2, the spiderlings would always spawn right where Beth'tilac lands and negating whatever damage we did in Phase 1. We still managed to burn her from 100% to 0%. We tried to lust once at 20 stacks, but wiped at 8% because healers said they went oom. We lusted at 25 stacks the next time and won.

Blood DK, Prot Pally
Disc Priest, Resto Shammy, Holy Pally
Fury Warrior, Arcane Mage, Ele Shammy, Marks Hunter, Shadow Priest

BTW, she hits like a #$%^ing truck, so roll your CDs, tanks.

Kommentar von armrule

Sharing detailed encounter analysis, mechanics, and strat and video for Beth'tilac 10man --> http://raidbriefing.blogspot.com/2011/07/bethtilac-10-man-nm.html

Kommentar von bogoradwee

Bubble will not prevent devastation damage.

Kommentar von 775767

Just thought I would give a healer's perspective. Our mostly ilvl 359 10-man group did this the other day. We sent a tank (prot paladin) and me (a resto druid) up top, with a rogue coming up when adds below were looking good. At first we had the rogue coming up every time, but it really helped when we had him dps the adds during the beginning of the second top phase.

Beth does not cleave when up top, so I stood next to the tank for efflo. I would wait for a meteor to come down, and swiftmend immediately after. I found if I didn't time swiftmend with the meteors, efflo would often be wasted when we had to avoid the next meteor.

Damage seemed a bit RNG driven, with me occasionally needing to drop a regrowth, and occasionally just rolling lifebloom for 20s+. In general, lifebloom + rejuv + swiftmend + occasional healing touches were enough. I actually gained mana in a few of the top-phases. Her AoE did enough damage that I needed a near-constant rejuv + efflo, and the rogue needed a frequent rejuv + his recuperate.

The big thing was to make sure that the tank and healer go up at almost the same time (with the tank ~.5s ahead). I could pre-HoT the tank on the way up if we timed it right, and if we missed the timing the tank had to blow a CD.

Phase 2 is not too bad as long as:
A) The adds are under control when you start
B) You have the DPS to finish in <40 stacks
C) You coordinate your healing and defensive cooldowns

Kommentar von 585478

This boss currently does not have eternal embers listed in her loot table. Is this correct? I thought they came from all Firelands bosses?

Kommentar von kryptx

If the other guides and videos aren't helping you, here are some things you might try, from an "average" 10 man guild that got our first kill last night.

One person is enough to kill all of the spinners, but we found it was better to have more people killing them to get them dead faster and ease healer mana. People with long ramp-up times and who struggle with target switching can stay on the drones, but the rest of your ranged should kill spinners if there are any spinners up. This includes the spinners that have not been taunted down, in case that wasn't obvious.
Spinners, when they are down, continue casting their random fireballs, and also melee their top threat target. It's not a ton of melee damage (1.5k hit on plate to 5k crit on cloth, every 1.5 seconds or so) but due to the number of targets, it may be difficult for your ground tank to pick them all up. Try not to pull down more than you need. We had our hunter and holy paladin pull down the first two, and the hunter pulled the third as well 8 seconds later. Prioritize the ones that are running free over those that are being tanked, if applicable.
Taking the dones to a specific, pre-determined location was not helpful for us. Instead, we used a "donut" where the ranged dps and healers are in the donut hole in the center of the room (you can mark this location with a raid marker), receiving AOE heals, and the drone is tanked on the donut, opposite the current batch of spiderlings. Just be sure never to face the drone towards the raid. Mmm, donut.
Beth'tilac's consume ability restores 10% of her health ~~and has a 100 yard range~~ (no longer the case). This means if there are any spiderlings ~~alive~~ near her when she comes down, she will probably fully heal and the rest of the encounter will be needlessly difficult.
The tricky part is this: assuming you don't allow any drones to drain her energy, there will be a wave of spiderlings about the same time that Beth'tilac begins her third smoldering devastation. At that time it's important that all DPS with any AOE capability whatsoever kill all spiderlings. None of the videos or guides I read seem to mention this (though I'm sure there are some that do), but it was extremely important for us.
In phase 2, our healers could keep us up until about 30 stacks of Frenzy. If you're going over that, either Beth is healing or you don't have enough DPS. If you're dying long before that, your healers aren't able to keep up (note that this doesn't necessarily mean the healers are failing).
It's not absolutely necessary to alternate tanks in the traditional sense. Since Widow's Kiss's duration is shorter than its cooldown, for us it worked better to have one "main" tank and one "soak" tank just for Widow's Kiss. If one of your tanks is a druid, consider having him or her soak the debuff and just DPS in cat form while he/she has the Widow's Kiss.
We found it was helpful to save heroism/bloodlust for about 40% so that it fully benefits healers as well as dps, since that's the most challenging part of the fight to heal, and it also happens to be approaching your dps' execute phase.

Good luck!

Kommentar von Leleko

After the first time spinners spawn and u killed them in order for tank, healer and dps to go up, do the keep spawining endlesly untill the 2nd phase or do the spawn in sets of 4-6 everytime Beth casts Smoldering Devastation? If so is it viable to put a dps in charge of killing the spinners while the rest of the raid handles Drones and spiderlings and then as soon as he is clear with Spinners give a hand on the raid? I would really could use some enlightment on the subject cause i cant seem to find an accurate info on it . Thank you

Kommentar von vanquished14

After a few wipes--We downed her tonight! As a hunter, I was easily able to handle all the spawning Cinderweb Spiderlings with the Concussive Barrage, Rapid Killing, Rapid Recuperation, and Bombardment talents. The first slows the spiderlings while the last three provide enough focus regeneration to allow for Multi-Shot spamming (without a need for Steady Shot).

Having one character focus on the spiderling adds allowed for the other two ground DPS to focus on the Cinderweb Drone and Cinderweb Spinners making the ground team's job easily manageable. Another tip I have for hunters--if you pop Deterrence when you first engage the boss (while waiting for the first Cinderweb Spinners to come) you can prevent damage done by Ember Flare to help conserve healer mana.

Also note, though it is considerably easy for one DPS to focus down the Spiderlings in phase 1, I do suggest the raid help AoE down any remaining Cinderweb Spiderlings before phase 2 to ensure no Cinderweb Spiderlings are Consumed by Beth'tilac when she lands.

Granted, this is the 10-man encounter and not every group has a hunter--I'm just saying marksmanship hunters have fantastic raid utility if any 10-man groups are having difficulties with add control in phase 1.

Kommentar von ZelosRaine

Just downed this on Ysondre.

Raid comp:
Pally on adds
Warrior on Beth

Shammy and Druid downstairs
Disc Priest (me) upstairs

Fury Warrior on Boss
Arcane Mage on Spinners
Arcane Mage on Drone
Shadow Priest on Drone/Spiderlings
Survival Hunter on Spiderlings

Long story short, what helped us was having the warrior stay down for the third upstairs to make sure all adds died (ESPECIALLY, the SPIDERLINGS). Also, tanks calling when they taunt off is a must in order for you healers to prevent random tank death. Finally, rotating healing/damage reduction cd's is a must once the boss is below 50%. One every 10% if you can manage it. Tanks should try to save cd's for the 20% mark, and Hero/Lust should be used around 30%+ in order to help the healers out.

Boss dropped at about 81% and everyone was (barely) alive at kill. Average dps was around 16-17k and average hps was around 15k.

Good luck!

Kommentar von Euphemia

Flaskaholics killing her last raidlock, after quite some work at figuring out what worked for us. We tried having a solohealer at the groundlevel, tried different setups and kill prios and such. Now we seem to have nailed it to go with most setups, so the wipefeasts were somehow worth it.

This about sums it up:

1 tank 1 healer 1 melee up on the web between each Smoldering Devastation.
2 healers ground level, one melee or ranged pref with a taunt on Spinners, 1 melee or ranged on Drones fulltime, 2 ranged with slows on Spiderlings. Whenever people were free, they'd help on Drones. Also, anyone with a taunt would help get Spinners down to the ground.
During her last Smoldering Devastation, all dps would kill Spiderlings, then Drones/Spinners before opening on her as she comes down to ground level.
Tanks would just taunt each time she kissed one of them, raid would stack on a healer on her bum. Pewpewpew, watch her stacks of Frenzy. Plan for healing cooldowns so they're spread throughout the phase, tanks have cooldowns ready at abt 20 stacks, TW at about 25 stacks of Frenzy, then kill, then loot :)

More information in the video, hope it'll be of help to someone!

Good luck!

/EDIT: With people gearing up, you can now do this with one healer on the groundlevel if people take care of themselves - you might also ship some more dps up on the canopy to have her lower before Phase2, this should be doable as the output of a good hunter/mage/dk should suffice for dealing with the Spiderlings on their own... Good way to farm her before going heroix on her :)

Kommentar von Lindentree

Make sure that none of the raiders you plan to send up top are colorblind. This entire subzone is a nightmare for us, but the meteor effect in particular is nearly impossible to see if you have problems with color vision.

Kommentar von 609114

Having the upstairs dps stay down after the second Smoldering Devastion (or come down early) to make sure all adds get killed before she lands can make the phase transition a lot smoother.

Kommentar von 177048

Type: Beast

Trolls rejoice!

Kommentar von XACru

short cut to Beth'tilac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLeEt_w8GaI

Kommentar von Disciplined

Here's a thorough explanation of the tactic my guild uses for both of our 10M groups. First thing I would like to note is that we're not a hardcore raiding guild, which mostly consists of some old ingame friends, who brought some more IRL friends of theirs. So all we have is around 15-18 people that are actually interested in raiding, some luckily having well geared alts, out of which we made 2 10M groups. We're not having 1 group be the core one, we just decided to split the members equally, and some people are having a char in each group, because of our low active raiders number.

My group consists of:

2 Tanks: 1 Feral Druid / 1 Protection Warrior;

3 Healers: 1 Holy Paladin / 1 Restoration Shaman / 1 Discipline Priest (me);

5 DPS (these rotate around between our 2 groups, but this is what we mostly run with): 1 Assassination Rogue / 1 Mage (Arc/Fire) / 2 Hunters (both marksman) / 1 Elemental Shaman.

I know that it would maybe be better to take another Melee dps instead of 1 of our hunters, but we are really out of choices here, so we decided to go with what we have.

Phase 1:

As soon as we run in I pop Machtwort: Barriere, which keeps us a lot safer until we can get the 1st person up to stop the spraying AoE from Beth'Tilac herself. This way the raid takes less dmg in the opening, and the barrier is also gonna be ready to use again in P2. As for getting the Aschenweberspinners down, the way we do it is have the tank that is going to go up and tank her (that being the Feral) taunt 1, our other tank taunt 1, and our holy paladin use Hand der Abrechnung to get another one down too.
As for the upstairs part of the raid, we send the tank 1st, followed by a healer (Discipline Priest, who is by far the best healer to be up top), and our Rogue 3rd, but only the 1st time, where he pops all of his offensive cooldowns to burst Beth'Tilac as much as he can, to ease the P2 of the encounter. The following 2 times it's only me and the tank being upstairs, and the Rogue remains on the spawning Aschenweberdrohnes for the rest of the encounter. The main thing to be aware off is that the climbing up part can get a lot buggy, and even if your the 2nd one who climbs the net, you can aggro, so we decided to leave at least a 3 second gap between the tank and the healer even clicking the webs. A Feral druid is by far the best one to fulfill this tactic, since he has a low CD defensive ability (Baumrinde) he can pop each time he climbs the web, to make surviving those few seconds, until the healer is up, a lot easier.

The upstairs job is a piece of cake for a Feral/Dpriest combo. What I tend to do is keep Gebet der Besserung up, shield us both, and Segenswort: Epiphanie spam the tank, followed by Sühne on CD. This rotation succeeds at keeping us alive, because of the insane way Dpriest's mastery works, which makes even overhealing effective, since it can both proc Göttliche Aegis & reduce the remaining time on the Geschwächte Seele debuff, as well as conserving my mana, so I'm always at 100% mana when we're jumping down to evade the Schwelende Verwüstung. That way I am free to spend a lot of my mana, and even spam PW:S to help the healers downstairs, until we have to go back up again, since I'm going to regen to 100% mana upstairs anyways, as long as I can get at least 1 proc downstairs, which is fairly easy.

Downstairs, we have 1 of our hunters on taking out the Aschenweberspinnlings as fast as possible, while the others are on the Drone. The Drone goes down really fast, because of the mad single target DPS output from the Rogue / Arc Mage and the others when the Spiderlings are down.

Phase 2:

When phase 2 starts, we have one of our tanks (that being the Feral again) place Beth'Tilac in the middle, and the remaining of the raid stack directly on her tail (or w/e is this part of a spider's body called). The state of the raid at this point is that every one of us has all of his cooldowns on disposal, so the choice is on us when to pop them. As for the healers, I'm mostly on 100% mana here, and the other 2 are surely above 75%, so there's still no need for any regen cooldowns, since they will have a much greater use afterwards in the phase.
The 1st cooldown to go off is Symbol der Hoffnung (because it's a channeled spell, and makes me unable to heal while doing it, so it's best to be used while the healing requirement is low) which combined with Schattengeist and a Vulkanischer Trank regens roughly about 50% of my own mana, so I tend to burn my mana as close as possible to 50-60% while her stacks are low, which also allows the other 2 healers to not cast a lot, or not cast at all, and regain some mana, as well as profiting from the HoH, so after it expires, we're all at full mana again, and Beth'Tilac is around 10-15 stacks, but a bit burned down too.

Now this is where the hard part of the encounter begins. She is now already hitting pretty hard with her AoE, so we are forced to use quick and mana inefficient spells, to keep the raid up. So now we're again burning a lot of mana, which makes the perfect time to pop . At this point, mana is not yet becoming an issue. The main issue actually is that you can't get your heals go off fast enough, so that's where Bloodlust comes in place. While it lasts, the raid will surely be doing well, so we do not pop any other CDs at the same time. When BL expires, it's my 2nd Barrier time. It's important to note that while under the barrier, Beth'Tilac's AoE will not cause spellcasting delay, neither for your healers, nor caster DPS, and with Ausgebrannte Glyphe, it probably makes it the single most useful spell in this encounter.

At this point, the boss is already at low health, and she is surely going down in 10-20 seconds, so we pop our remaining defensive cooldowns, such as Anspornender Schrei, and have our Feral tank use his Gelassenheit, which helps the healers a lot. The ideal thing to do is also have him carry a caster weapon, such as Chelleys Stab der dunklen Heilung, and equip it before casting Tranq, to profit from the SP boost.

2 important things to note here:
Healers - noone in the raid should be getting healed rather than someone else, because every single raid member has the same importance. A dead tank would make swapping impossible, a dead healer can't heal (well except a holy priest), and a dead DPS prolongs the phase a lot, which will all surely cause a wipe.
Tanks - when taking over because the other tank got Der Witwenkuss, try not to move nor rotate Beth'Tilac from her spot, so the remaining of the raid does not have to move with her, because while on the move, most healers can't heal properly, and it makes it harder for the DPS too.

Summary: I know this may seem like mostly a healer guide, but that's the only role I've played in the encounter so far.
I also hope this helps someone, who hasn't downed her yet, or is having troubles in the process.

Cheers.

~ Healingstorm (31/8/2) / LoK / Sylvanas-EU

Kommentar von Swiftflight

For prot warriors who are staying on the ground during phase 1, put vigilance on the tank going up because whenever he takes damage your taunt refreshes. This allows you to taunt every single spinner that you see down to the ground, making your healers very appreciative.

Kommentar von Therage

In 10 man a Marksmanship hunter spec'd into 1 point of Rapid Killing, 2 points in Concussive Barrage, 2 points into Bombardment and 2 Points into Rapid Recuperation can easily kill the spiderlings on their own. Trap launch an explosive trap or Ice Trap in their path and spam multi shot until dead. You will likely need help on the last group of Spiderlings before phase 2 begins (gear dependent of course (I am 375 equipped item level at time of this writing)).

edit: Note that if anyone other than the hunter kills the adds then speccing in such a way is redundant. The hunter needs to kill the adds to gain the extra focus through the Rapid Killing + Rapid Recuperation combination. This means that you should only do this if your hunter is able to solo the spiderlings.

- Lovemontes/Aman'thul

Kommentar von rzzr

If you have a Warlock get him to pull with Bane of Havoc.

Kommentar von 127323

Tips for tanks going up top:

Beth hits like a f-in truck. Be prepared to pop some light cooldowns when you are up top.

Climbing up the rope changes your camera around. I have mine set to never move unless I move it, which sometimes screwed me up when I would go up top. I would mouse turn to face the boss and sometimes fall right through the damn hole.

We had some bugs on our kill last night. Sometimes I would randomly fall through the floor (and no, I wasn't standing in a puddle). I ended up switching with the other tank and he had the same issues with randomly falling through the floor.

Kommentar von Hanz0

pro tip : get a resto drood and 2 dps instead of only 1 on the web during p1 it will cause her to come down with 60% hp making p2 a walk in the park!

Kommentar von DivineIxen

Frustrating, yet fun fight at the same time. Mainly due to people in my raid accidently falling through holes while they were upstairs or a healer/dps dying because they got the top before the tank did.

I told my raid I couldn't tank upstairs as for some reason, certain textures cause my fps to drop to nil and I have difficultly seeing the meteors/holes. So I end up tanking downstairs. Do a good job too, I just tell people to kite over the Spinners to me so I can aoe taunt them off and hold them while dps mass spam aoes.

Felt so good when we finally downed her AND I got both pieces of loot. (Tank sword/holy shoulders.)

Our setup:

2 Tanks: (Pally/DK) The DK tanked upstairs.
3 Healers (Druid, Shaman, Disc Priest)
5 dps: (Hunter, Rogue, Fury Warrior, Arcane Mage, Demo Lock) Warrior went upstairs.

Kommentar von Umega

Anyone mentioned this yet? Beth'tilac sounds alot like the demonic spiders called Bebiliths in Dungeons and Dragons/Forgotten Realms.

Kommentar von nater131

Hotfix 9/20
Beth'tilac's health and damage have been reduced by 15% on both normal and Heroic difficulty.

Kommentar von dusty103

Beth'tilac requires 550 skill to skin. To reach this, one must acquire a pair of skinning knives that increase skill, plus a glove enchantment. For this, one would expect to get something like a pair of Pristine Hides, not just a couple of skins you can get off of any regular level mob.

Kommentar von Smoketh

The encounter tab for this boss on heroic is incorrect. It is NOT Cinderweb Broodlings that are part of this encounter. Engorged Broodlings are the correct NPCs for this encounter on heroic.

Cinderweb Broodlings are found in the Molten Front

Kommentar von 39134

Contrary to what the Encounter Journal says (and according to our bomb soaker), Engorged Broodlings during the Heroic encounter explode for nature damage, rather than fire: . If you have a shaman or a hunter that can provide Nature resistance, this mitigates a considerable portion of the explosion and subsequent AoE damage.

Kommentar von 490383

guild is just doing this fight on heroic for the frist time ,any tips u guys may have on raid setup and how to deal with Broodling's ?

Kommentar von Sillicis

Funny thing was, at one of our attempts in heroic we taunted alot of spinners down. And a Cinderweb Drone went up the web at 17% of his hp.

Kommentar von Eillesthis

As a Survival Hunter, an Orakeltalisman der Ablution kicks ass with the Aschenweberspinnling adds.

With two of these equipped you can fire off Mehrfachschusss almost continuously, as the Automatischer Schusss between them help kill off your target quickly, refreshing you for the next Mehrfachschuss. If you're laying traps the free s from accelerate the process. Once you get going your new target is that much closer to death from the previous Mehrfachschusss, so at the end the adds are dying in rapid succession and you're only limited by GCD.

The benefit outweighs the loss of two 359 or 378 trinkets if you're on add duty, since add control is more important than your contribution to the boss on the burn phase, and anyway the sooner the adds are down the sooner you're back to dps-ing the boss.

Kommentar von Okacz

God dammit.

Skinnable at 550, which means you need 2 Zulian Slashers and hand enchant.

And what drops?

3 Savage Leather

Damn, Blizz, couldn't you let her at least drop more leathers?

Kommentar von 915460

Easily the hardest Heroic encounter of this tier's raiding (of the first 6 might I mention).

This fight in Heroic mode will really push the bounds of your healers and the endurance of your tanks and ultimately the length to which your DPS can smash over for the finale of what will seem like a torterous fight. This fight will require extremely precise coordination and lots of communication.

On this fight you will find the Cinderweb Spinners and Spiderlings will give you some trouble, as a pose to the Drone being of lesser priority.

You will want a Hunter and/or Death Knight in your raid capable of smashing Spiderlings and being able to quckly move constantly to soak the new arachnids of this fight -- Cinderweb Broodlings. Cinderweb Broodlings will Fixate on a target (indicated by a yellow beam to the target it is following) and have too much health to kill. You will want your Death Knight or Hunter to move to these Broodlings to have them explode on them as far as possible from the raid. Have a healer aware of the one taking the Broodling to either follow him around or make sure he's topped off before having him take any Broodlings. When Broodlings blow up they will leave a poison patch on the floor, standing in it will deal roughly 12.5K nature damage per second, and anyone standing in it will be slowed. For this reason it is important to use lag to your advantage and try to let the Broodling run to you (while you are still a considerable distance from the raid) and then start moving away from it as it catches up to you (the Broodling is faster than your run speed), making it blow up and the idea is that the delay between blow up and putting poison on the floor, you should be out of the poison, so you will only be taking the initial explosion damage.

Contrary to the priority of the Drones in the normal encounter, you will find the Drones tend to die quite quickly and have an inconsistent aggro table. Drones in the Heroic encounter of this fight will randomly fixate on targets, but when they do will deal 75% less damage. For this mecahnic, Drones not only drop in kill priority but are also trivialised by it (you will still want to have the DPS not on spiderlings on the Drone so that it does not siphon energy from Beth'tilac).

You will want your downstairs tank to pick up the Drone as normal and pull it to an assigned marker (preferably close to your raid's stack so that the Drones can be cleaved down, and the tank can receive AoE healing), and you will want your raid stacking at a point. Your downstairs tank with the assistance of any other DPS or Healer classes downstairs to taunt down all Cinderweb Spinners. If Cinderweb Spinners are left on their webs for too long they will start stunning targets for 25 seconds -- if this happens you will more than likely have a Healer or Spiderling DPS stunned which will be detrimental to your attempt.

Send a Melee DPS, a tank healer and your tank upstairs, the rest of the raid should be downstairs and stacked at a point on the floor. You will have 2 healers downstairs, most preferably with AoE healing capabilities (ie, Shaman, Druid). Damage will be heavy downstairs and as the fight progresses it will get heavier. Send your upstairs team up and have them come down for smolderings as normal, rinse and repeat three times. If you are finding downstairs to be messy with problems downing spinners or drones then it would be a good idea to have your upstairs DPS to only go up for the first two times, and have him stand down for the third to help clean up.

For the third and final Smoldering, Spiderlings are top priority, as Drones can be moved next to Beth to be cleaved. If you have unlucky RNG you will find the Spiderlings will spawn outside of where Beth will land and Beth will quickly eat any still alive. For this reason alone it is extremely important your DPS are switching to the Spiderlings exclusively to kill them before they get to Beth, or you will shortly find all your upstairs' effort will have been undone in the matter of a few seconds.

The rest of the fight is pretty much as per normal -- you will want your Tanks swapping for Widow's Kiss, raid damage will be extremely high and as Beth's frenzy stacks rise damage will only get higher on both tanks and the raid. You will want Beth down before roughly 35 stacks of Frenzy, with raid and Tank cooldowns being popped at roughly 20-25 stacks of Frenzy (if you can hold them off for longer then it will definitely benefit you, but make sure they are starting to be used by at least 30 stacks). Save Tranquility for high damage periods as it really is a raid saver, and get any other Druids you have (regardless of spec) to be ready to use Tranquility should damage get too high. Optionally (but recommend at later stacks) you can get any (DPS) Priests to use their Divine Hyms and Shamans to use their Healing Rain. If the stacks do get high your tanks WILL be one hit. Pop lust at 50% and collect your spoils.

Sorry for the heavy read, but hopefully you can take something from it.

Good Luck!

Kommentar von Asbat

SOLO by Monk ww
http://youtu.be/qeVTvFsZ8GM

Kommentar von wowdm6

I know this is no longer current content but the guild I am in was not interested in the legendary so I decided with a friend to try to two man 10 man Firelands and see how it went with the intent of getting that staff and hence the pet for the achievement.

This first fight had us stuck at first even though I read through the fight tactics

I went up as hunter ilvl559 and the other player stayed down as druid tank ilvl530
This went well as I burned Beth down before she cast the first smoldering devastation

Unfortunately I fell down at that point and waited, Beth did not come down until such time as she enraged, health was at 1 point, looks like you cannot kill her up top so a fast burn appears pointless. When she came down health remained fixed at 1 point and we died. A bug possibly ?

After a few more reads we noticed that there is essentially 4 phases, 3 up top where she casts and then only after the third cast does Beth then come to the lower floor. You need to cause some damage to get the energy level to come down.

So the DPS up top does not appear to need to be anything much, we switched round, Druid Tank up top and Hunter DPS down bottom to take care of the adds

Once we had this it was possible to burn the rest of the health and get the kill.

So we had the kill, certainly well geared in MoP allows for at least the first few bosses to be taken down with just two players.

Kommentar von 913880

Just soloed as combat rogue, ilvl 566. Get one or two combat points off before she goes up. Pop recuperate (glyphed). Use fan of knives to hit a spider. Use those combat points to pop SND. Go up the web. Pop CD! Use evasion. Use leeching poison of course. Shiv leeching poison. Move out of magma pools. Use KS, Use AR.

Prep. Evasion again. I didn't use combat readiness, but I should have. Cloak for smoldering devastation. Use your pots, flask, food buff. I had to go down and she was getting healed, but I fought through and did it! Hopefully you get her before she goes back down. It was VERY close. I only did 164k dps actually. I did 16, 215 healing per second. Mostly through OP leeching poison, but also through recuperate.

Kommentar von Malsherz

Just killed her solo in 10man with the 6.0 changes and thought it worth suggesting to be careful with how quick you kill her. Killed her on top by accident and couldn't loot her because I got knocked down to the ground level.

Kommentar von jnqbus

Any ideas on how to solo as a Combat Rogue past the squish? No Fan of Knives means trouble.

Kommentar von Gulanga

This should be no problem to solo on heroic 10man if you have some gear.
I've been farming it on 10man hc since 6.0.2.

Problem:
You have to kill one of the hanging spider adds fast and get up. Otherwise you will be perma-stunned.
Once you are up you have to kill her fast before you go down.
If you go down you will be stun-locked and you will loose the attempt.
So this fight is a dps race.

Video of a kill from my farming run

Kommentar von Cramerscott

Soloed as a 580 Prot Warrior on 25H. The trick is to have a DoT on her as she goes to the bottom at the end of the fight. I used Blood Bath, Dragon Roar, basically everything I could to add to the DoT. I was stunned for about 6 seconds, so just to be safe I popped Enrage Regen to help out.

Kommentar von BurnsLikeIce

A word of warning for level 100's attempting a Heroic kill...
I went in on my ilvl598 quest-geared Bear Druid. Was doing well, had her to around 15%, and then she dropped off her web. My DoTs weren't quite enough to finish her off, so I ended up on the ground, Stunned, as Beth healed up. I have the passive healing Talent (Ysera's Gift), and the damage barely tickled my fur, so I had to wait for the Enrage timer before I took enough damage to die.

So beware: If you have a passive healing ability, and you don't kill the spider before you drop and get stun-locked by the adds, then you will have to wait for Enrage to die and try again.

Might want to have a book or something ready to occupy yourself with while you await death. Minutes feel like hours when all you want to do is reset the fight and try again.

Kommentar von 1078744

Soloing at 100.

Running through Firelands as a Blood Todesritter at level 100 - This for me was the most annoying boss to solo, but it is do-able.

I killed it on 25man Heoric, the trick was to save any movement impairing breakers until I was stunned (as a DK, only Eisige Gegenwehr did the job.) Once released from the stun, the trick is to kill as many of the hanging spiders as you can, if like me you've spent all your time above the web; there may be a few.

After AoEing the ones I could, I then had to single target and became stunned again. I waited until the 24 second stun had worn off and in the second I was unstunned, I would spam an instant damage cast to kill the remaining adds - One per every 24 seconds, so if you cannot survive the stun you will not be able to do this.

A good note is to remember is that as well as using instant casts to kill the ones stunning you, you can also use that brief second you have to pop any CDs that may be useful as well as any health pots.

Kommentar von abstractivism

WoD 25H Monk solo:

This boss can be very frustrating to solo as a monk, simply because of the Monk's lack of any decent DoT damage combined with the Cinderweb Spinner adds and their perpetual stunlock as soon as you enter P2. What's most aggravating is that when you've entered into stunlock territory it's almost impossible to get the encounter to reset unless you feel like waiting around for the enrage timer. The boss and her adds simply do not do enough damage to kill you so that you can have another attempt.

It's all very possible though. You will be unable to bring the boss below 1hp while she's above the web, but as soon as she begins to descend (transition into P2) you can pop Xuen den Weißen Tiger beschwören and Wirbelnder Kranichtritt at the right time while directly above Beth'tilac to hopefully get that final tick of damage off on her before the adds throw you into stunlock webs. You have a very, very small window of time to land the killing blow.

If you do not kill her immediately after the phase transition, the attempt is failed. No amount of CC breaks will keep you going long enough to DPS her down from the ~1mil she regenerates at this time. , your CC-break racial, and free action potions all are useless here. The adds will simply reapply their webs before you're able to get more than one ability off.

Other classes with more reliable DoT skills shouldn't have much of an issue, and the fight is otherwise a no-brainer.

I should also specify that I used a 641 WW monk to kill Beth'tilac. Brewmaster should be possible as well if you pop Rauschender Jadewind during that critical phase transition.

Kommentar von 1415508

Anyone been having trouble looting her after killing her?

I went to solo her with my Warrior, she died on the web up above but I fell down right as she died.

Kommentar von Taishigi

If you happen to kill Beth'tilac too fast and end up with a boss up top that you can't loot.

Go kill Alysrazor, you will have enough time left on your Wings of Flame buff to be able to fly over to the web and land on top so you can loot the boss.

Kommentar von 494651

Took me 3 tries, but finally solo'd on 25H as a ilvl 657 Ret Pally. Basically full PVP gear. Didn't even need to burst at all.

Pulled with Exorcism
Kill a spinner with Judgement
Go up top
DPS Beth as normal.

The really important thing is the move out of the fire! My first two tries, after I went up top to dps Beth, I just stood there and dps'd. Don't do that. After 3-4 globals move out of the little fire puddle thing you're standing in. Doing that on my third try, I killed her easily.

You do still need to have a dot on her when she goes down to ground level.

Kommentar von N0VIS

To those soloing this, (this is especially important in 25 man), the time you spend fighting her up on the web is enough time for a large number of spiders to spawn underneath. When Beth'tilac goes below, the spiders can stunlock you pretty easily. Therefore, try to leave a DoT on her once she moves to the centre to climb down to the lower level.

Kommentar von Siddalee

Just a quick suggestion if you get perma stunned: spam shadowmeld/vanish type spell button and start over, lol

Kommentar von Xenorra

For those that are attempting to solo this at level 100, and get stuck in the stun, Beth'tilac's enrage is at 10 minutes, and this still takes about a minute or two to die after (depending on what health regeneration abilities you have).

Kommentar von Anedill

Tip for first timers: when up on the web - keep moving. Don't ignore the fire puddles, as they make you drop down and will thus result in you being stunlocked by the spiders below!

Kommentar von Swagelok

Alternatively, if you are unable to kill him when he goes down and you have a pet, send your pet to attack the spiders to break the stunlock. Much quicker than having to wait to die.

Kommentar von whyzzim

Short tip for solo 25h:
Start the fight. Kill one Spinner. Climb up to the top and burn her hp down. Do not get hit by Meteorbrand (you can see its area as a yellow circle) or you'll fall down and get stunlocked. Once she is low on hp she will move down and start phase 2. Put dot on her to finish her, if your dot is not enough you may consider Mechaknallrakete.

Kommentar von r0yzterr

If you try to solo this as a warrior on 25 man heroic, you can "fix" this encounter might you fail to dps down the boss/adds fast enough while perma stunned.

To do this, simply wait for one stun to wear out while clicking bladestorm as fast as possible. If you time this right, you're able to bladestorm out of the stun and keeping you immune from next stuns during the bladestorm, since it makes you immune to all movement impairing effects.

If you keep jumping during the bladestorm you also will burn down the dangling adds so you're able to finish the boss, might the boss not be dead by the time your bladestorm runs out.

Works for me everytime.

Kommentar von erlkonig

Running my level 100 warlock through this on the upper level in 25H kept seeing Beth'tilac descend with 4%-16% health left, and no way to handle the stunlock problem at the end. However, I found that never ascending, and just wiping out everything at ground level until Beth'tilac descends led to an easy final phase with nothing left to stun me.

Kommentar von Loki53

I killed her and got no credit or loot. Help?

Kommentar von Mage12322

How are people soloing her on 25 HC? I manage to get her down to 1 hp (and at least 1 extra attack before we go down too, meaning you can't skip the last phase), but then she burns the whole web and I'm permanently stunlocked when I come down again. Even in a tank spec + stance, which apparently helps on some bosses, doesn't help me get out of the stunlock.. Any tips?

Kommentar von Dashan

Hunters: If you happen to fall and get stun-locked. use your pet to kill all the hanging spinners that are causing the stuns. at lvl 100. the pet can kill them all quickly and break the stun

Kommentar von 1534817

25M Heroic

My strategy

Warrior Fury
Use Bloodbath in the last 25% + Recklessness - DoT should tick over once she goes under

Paladin
Use Avenging Wrath + Execution Sentence + 5 stacked Censure - DoTs - again final 25%

Druid Balance
Final 25% Celestial Alignment

Monk
Harder than the rest
When she goes under - pop xuen + other CDs + Spinning crane kick
EDIT:
I think i found a slightly easier method as a monk
Bring her health to around 1.2 million and let her cast the smoldering devastation - jump down while she casts it and you will get stunned by the dangling spiders
Bethilac will come down but will not start healing back up - so she will remain at around 1.2 m - when you break out of the stun - cast xuen on her - xuen will finish her off

If you are having trouble I think there is a fang thing sold by Honest Jim that puts a 20% bleed DoT for all damage you do

Kommentar von Drosa

If you are solo her on 25H, remember to save your large dot cool down while she is climbing down the web, such as for Hunter - A Murder of Crows, Warrior Bladestorm, etc, usually these abilities will finish her off once she landed.

Kommentar von eric0707

How to Beth'tilac Solo Level 100 --> https://youtu.be/jTG_x9AznWA

Kommentar von Razorgrace

Simple and reliable way to solo this boss in 25 HC mode:

Pull.
Wait for the 1st wave of Aschenweberspinners.
Use any ranged damaging ability or taunt to get Aschenweberspinners down as quickly as possible:

Jäger, Magier, Priester, Hexenmeister: any short CD ranged ability will do;
Druide: go Balance and use any short CD ranged ability, or go Guardian and use (it has no CD in Guardian);
Schurke: use Werfen or Shurikenwurf;
Krieger: go Protection and use Heldenhafter Wurf (it has no CD in Protection);
Paladin: use whatever is available in your spec - Richturteil, Hand der Abrechnung, unglyphed ;
Todesritter: use whatever is available in your spec - Todesmantel, Dunkler Befehl, Heulende Böe;
Mönch: use Knisternder Jadeblitz;
Schamane: use .
Do the same to 2nd and 3rd waves of Aschenweberspinners.
Go up using any web that left from Aschenweberspinners:

you might want to use web from last killed/taunted add, as any earlier web could disappear while you approach it.
Burn down the boss with everything you have:

avoid large "crater" in the middle;
avoid pools of fire that sometimes appear right below your character.
When the boss goes down, follow her through the "crater" in the center.
Finish her (she might heal herself, disregard that and proceed with damaging her).

Kommentar von 1170496

Entrance to her lair is left right from where you came in. Or on the map, right above the entrance.

Kommentar von Jeolene

I'd like to know why they didn't make this soloable like other bosses, you simply cannot finish it if you get stunned. I get her down to 1HP and I get stunned ever time. I can clearly see the stun end, but I can't use any abilities before I'm stunned again. FIX THIS BLIZZ.

Kommentar von munkeyinorbit

As a hunter I never had a problem. Pet. No pet. Irrelevant. Then all of a sudden, one day, I got stunned. Took so long for me to die. I logged off and then logged back in 15 mins later. Really. It was ridiculous. I was still at 42% HP. Spamming my abilities by them self didn't do &*!@. I then started spamming all my abilities at the same time hoping to get something off and it worked. Targeted next spinner, waited and then spammed. I was even able to move for a sec if I was too far away. I think the secret was to move, spam attack (right click) and my insta-shots like arcane shot or chimera shot and in that way something should at least go off.

In the end they should fix this boss. If you get it to "1%", spinners should disappear. I don't exactly know why I couldn't kill it this time because I have killed it every other time no problems but it pissed me off.

Kommentar von Vampiyaa

For those trying to solo Beth'tilac but getting boned by the Cinderweb Spinners' nets:

The trick is to aggro Beth and stay down below, killing Cinderweb Spinners. They stop spawning for a few minutes afterward. Keep killing them until they seem to stop spawning, and quickly hop on a net to go to the upper platform. Then BLAST HER! The two of you will plop down, and no Spinners will be there to net you :) Easy peasy! (completed with an ilvl 718 hunter)

Kommentar von jack81

I just soloed it as a lvl 100 feral druid with the boosted lvl 100 gear. I kept dying at first becuz she'd chain stun me for 30 sec at a time :(

Then I read that when u first encounter her and she goes up the web, a bunch of smaller spiders will dangle down. Kill one fast and click on the web to take a ride up to fight Beth tilac. I tried to kill her as fast as possible becuz after awhile she'll knock u back down and u get chain stunned and die again. I wasn't good enough and she continuously knocked me down and stunning me till I died.

Finally, I decided to just do all the DOT that I have in cat form like rake and rip. Eventually she knocked me down, but my DOTs killed her before she could stun lock kill me.

Hope this helps

Kommentar von wowogamer

Here are some tricks for certain classes to avoid being stunlocked when Beth'tilac jumps down from the web. Using these tricks, you don't have to kill the “stun-applying” spiders (Cinderweb Spinners) hanging down from the web, but can just climb up to the web at the beginning of the fight and purely concentrate on finishing the boss off in a very short time.

Start by engaging Beth’thilac with a single attack. After the initial attack she will become un-attackable and climb up on top of the web where she is Out of Line of Sight. She will do a short AoE damage after which a group of Cinderweb Spinners will descent from the web, each hanging in a line attached to the web. Kill one of these Cinderweb Spinners. After a few seconds the line will become clickable. Click on the line, and you will automatically be pulled up on top of the web. Attack the Boss with all what you’ve got. Stay away from the hole in the middle of the web so you don’t fall down. And move out of the fire that once in a while is put under your feet, as a Meteor Burn will land there a few seconds later pushing you off the web.

When the Boss comes close to 0 hp she will move towards the hole and descent to the ground. When she hits 1 hp she will be impossible to kill before she has reached the ground. When she hits the ground she will start to heal up after a few seconds. And a moment later you will be pulled down from the web and chain-stunlocked by Fiery Web Spin cast by the nasty gang of Cinderweb Spinners. It is quite hard to get out of the stunlock, so you will probably die after 5-10 minutes constant stunlocking and small doses of damage that slowly wears you down (unless you’re a druid with Yseras Gift in which case you will be stunlocked for ever because you cannot die by the small amount of damage you take ;).

So in order to defeat Beth’thilac without having to kill the Cinderweb Spinners at the beginning of the fight, it is important to finish her off during the short window of opportunity. That is, during the first few seconds after she has hit the ground. And this is where the tricks below come in handy:

Death Knights: Spec Desecrated Ground. Jump down after Beth'tilac through the hole in the middle of the web and use Desecrated Ground to remove the stunlock. Finish her off during the 10 seconds it lasts.

Feral Druids: Be sure to apply a fresh 5 combopoint Rip as well as a fresh Rake just before the boss jumps down. This should finish her off on its own in a few seconds.

Paladins: When the boss jumps down, use Divine Shield, jump down after her and finish her off.

Warlocks: Spec Demonology and use your Felguard and your Doomguard. Just before the boss jumps down, make sure to apply all dots you have available like Corruption, Hand of Guldan and Doom. When the boss jumps down, send your Felguard after the boss (if it is not following the boss automatically), and use Felstorm to finish the boss off.

Warriors: Spec Blade Storm. When the boss jumps down on the ground: (1) cast Blade Storm and (2) jump down on the ground. You will not be stunned during Blade Storm and it will finish her off during the 6 seconds it lasts. It is important to activate Blade Storm before jumping after her, as it will NOT remove a stun that is already in place!

All the tricks above I have personally used with success on 25man Heroic Bet’thilac. Disclaimer: The tricks described below, for Rogues, I haven't tried on Beth'tilac. But Death from Above I have tried on other bosses that have a stun mechanic, so I guess it might be doable on Beth'tilac too. Shadow Reflection I have never tried myself, so the suggestion below is pure guesswork, but might work. Try it on your own risk ;)

Rogues: Spec Death from Above. Make sure you have 5 combo points available and that your poisons are applied to the boss when she jumps down. Activate Cloak of Shadows and jump after her. Cloak of Shadows might, or might not, make you immune to the stun as the stun belongs to the magical school (fire), and as such should be resisted by Cloak of Shadows. But as the spell, on the other hand, is flagged as “cannot miss” it might also be the case that Cloak of Shadows cannot resist this attack. I simply don't know. But try it, it might work. When you jump down be sure to spam-click Death from Above while you are still falling down towards her, so that the spell will trigger as soon as possible and hopefully before you get stunlocked. As the spell has a 15 yards range this should be feasible. For some reason you will not be stunlocked during Death from Above (at least not as of this date) and the dps from a 5 combo point Death from Above might be big enough to deal a killing blow (I guess). Another option, that might be even better, could be to spec into Shadow Reflection. When you estimate that the boss will jump down in about 8 seconds, use Shadow Reflection followed by your strongest attacks. If you time it right, your Shadow Reflection should follow Beth'tilac down on the ground and attack her for the next 8 seconds, thereby finishing her off.

Kommentar von 1474787

As of 7.0.3, I think that they finally fixed the infamous stun lock problem! I just downed Beth'tilac on a new 100 and, after beating on her up top until she slunk back down the hole and following in after her, I didn't get stunned even once. It's about time!

Kommentar von HeKol

On an average of 10 runs Beth'tilac 25HC rewards 193 gold, 19 silver and 38 copper after vendoring dropped gear.

Kommentar von The8th

If you're having trouble getting into Beth'tilac Lair, take the path starting at 26:58
It zig-zags up to the Lair

Kommentar von Elonen

You can climb up to her and DPS her down. For that you need to kill the dangling spiders and then hover over them with your mouse to get a green arrow appear, which will attach you to a web string. Then simply space yourself up.

Kommentar von Ellinorake

If you are doing Delegierung, I would like to make it clear that the boss isn't bugged. Since some patch (probably 7.3.5 or 8.0 with the leveling changes, which has increased her maximum mana), she does not cast Schwelende Verwüstung until her mana is 0%, it's not what DBM tells you on the timer. It's roughly 2 ½ - 3 minutes until she casts it.

Kommentar von lazerop

For some reason both Wowhead and the ingame journal isn't updated so: all bosses in Forelands Timewalking drop iLvl389 loot

3D-Ansicht Links

Beth'tilac <Die rote Witwe>

Dieser NPC befindet sich in Die Feuerlande (2).

Bosskampfkompendium

Heroisch		Mythisch
Tödlich		Wichtig
Tank		DPS
Heiler		Unterbrechbar
Magie		Fluch
Gift		Krankheit
Berserker

Zusammenfassung – Beth'tilac beginnt die Begegnung über dem Kampfgebiet und kommt herunter nachdem sie dreimal [Schwelende Verwüstung] gewirkt hat. Spieler können dieses Gebiet erreichen, indem sie mit dem Spinnenfaden eines Aschenweberspinners interagieren und Beth'tilac Schaden zufügen, bevor sie im Zuge von Phase 2 herabsteigt.
Sobald Beth'tilac herabsteigt, müssen Spieler sie besiegen, bevor sie zu viele Stapel von [Raserei] ansammelt.
- Tanks –
  Ihr könnt Aschenweberspinner dazu zwingen, von ihren Spinnenfäden zu springen, indem Ihr Spotteffekte gegen sie einsetzt.
  Wenn sich in Phase 1 niemand auf derselben Ebene wie Beth'tilac befindet, wirkt sie konstant [Toxinregen].
  Sorgt dafür, dass Aschenweberdrohnen [Kochende Besudelung] nur abseits Eurer Verbündeten einsetzen.
  Sobald Beth'tilac herabsteigt, koordiniert Euch mit dem anderen Tank, um die verringerte Heilung durch [Witwenkuss] zu kontern.
  Haltet in Phase 2 Beth'tilac fern von Aschenweberspinnlingen, um zu verhindern, dass sie diese [Verzehrt].
  Wenn Ihr Euch in Phase 1 oben befindet, springt herunter, bevor Beth'tilac [Schwelende Verwüstung] wirkt.
- Heiler –
  Wenn sich in Phase 1 niemand auf derselben Ebene wie Beth'tilac befindet, wirkt sie konstant [Toxinregen].
  Jeder, der sich auf einer Ebene mit Beth'tilac befindet, erleidet Schaden durch [Funkenleuchtfeuer].
  Wenn Beth'tilacs Energie aufgebraucht ist, wirkt sie [Schwelende Verwüstung].
  Wenn Ihr Euch in Phase 1 oben befindet, springt herunter, bevor Beth'tilac [Schwelende Verwüstung] wirkt.
- Schadensklassen –
  Aschenweberdrohnen sind erst besiegt, wenn ihre Energie vollständig aufgebraucht ist. Sie steigen nach oben, um Beth'tilac Energie abzusaugen und beschleunigen so den nächsten Einsatz von [Schwelende Verwüstung].
  Beth'tilac fügt Spielern, die sich auf einer Ebene mit ihr befinden, mit [Funkenleuchtfeuer] konstant Schaden zu. Stellt sicher, dass sich oben ein Heiler und ein Tank befinden, bevor Ihr mit einem Spinnenfaden der Aschenweber interagiert.
  Wenn Ihr Euch in Phase 1 oben befindet, springt herunter, bevor Beth'tilac [Schwelende Verwüstung] wirkt.

Phase 1: Das Aschenwebernetz

Beth'tilac zieht sich zu Beginn des Kampfes auf ihr Netz zurück.

Feuerenergie
Beth'tilac verliert mit der Zeit langsam Feuerenergie. Die Aschenweberdrohnen entziehen ihr auch etwas Energie, wenn ihre eigene Energie verbraucht ist. Wann immer Beth'tilacs Feuerenergie verbraucht ist, setzt sie sich selbst in Brand, was 'Schwelende Verwüstung' hervorruft.
Funkenleuchtfeuer – Große Hitze verbrennt Feinde in Beth'tilacs Nähe und fügt Spielercharakteren, die sich auf derselben Ebene wie Beth'tilac befinden, 986 Feuerschaden zu.
Meteorbrand – Meteore stürzen auf das Netz herab und fügen Spielercharakteren im Umkreis von 7 Metern um den Einschlagsort 38 Feuerschaden zu. Der Meteor brennt außerdem ein Loch in das Netz, durch das Spielercharaktere stürzen können.
Verschlingen – Beth'tilac verschlingt Aschenweberspinnlinge, wodurch sie sich um 10% ihrer maximalen Gesundheit heilt.
Schwelende Verwüstung – Wenn Beth'tilacs Feuerenergie gänzlich verbraucht ist, setzt sie sich selbst in Brand und fügt allen Spielercharakteren, die sich auf derselben Ebene wie Beth'tilac befinden, 16189 Feuerschaden zu.
Toxinregen – Wenn keine Gegner auf Beth'tilacs Netz sind, fügt sie allen Gegnern 859 Feuerschaden zu.
Aschenweberspinner – Aschenweberspinner hängen an einem Faden von der Decke herab. Spott oder ähnliche Fähigkeiten lassen sie auf den Boden herabfallen. Nachdem sie getötet wurden bleiben Ihre Fäden bestehen. Spielercharaktere können dann mit den Fäden interagieren und sich oben auf das Netz begeben.
- Brennende Säure – Der Aschenweberspinner speit brennendes Gift auf einen zufälligen Spielercharakter und fügt ihm (100% of Spell power) Feuerschaden zu.
- Feuernetz spinnen – Der Aschenweberspinner kanalisiert ein feuriges Netz auf einen zufälligen Spielercharakter und betäubt ihn 25 sec lang.
Aschenweberdrohne – Diese großen Spinnen klettern aus Höhlen unter dem Aschennetz. Wenn ihre Feuerenergie aufgebraucht ist, klettern die Aschenweberdrohnen zu Beth'tilac und entziehen ihr Feuerenergie.
- Verschlingen – Aschenweberdrohnen verzehren Aschenweberspinnlinge, um sich selbst um 20% ihrer maximalen Gesundheit zu heilen. Gleichzeitig wird ihr verursachter Schaden um 20% und ihre Bewegungsgeschwindigkeit um 20% erhöht.
- Kochender Spritzer – Die Aschenweberdrohne speit in einem frontalen kegelförmigen Bereich (60°, 20 Meter Reichweite) brennendes Gift, das jedem Feind in dem Gebiet 2597 Feuerschaden zufügt.
- Brennende Säure – Die Aschenweberdrohne speit brennende Säure auf einen zufälligen Spielercharakter, die (100% of Spell power) Feuerschaden verursacht.
- Fixieren – Die Aschenweberdrohne fixiert sich auf einen zufälligen Spielercharakter und ignoriert alle anderen Ziele, ihr verursachter Schaden wird jedoch 10 sec lang um 75% verringert.
Aschenweberspinnling – Diese kleinen Spinnen klettern aus Höhlen unter dem Aschennetz. Sie bewegen sich instinktiv zu den Aschenweberdrohnen.
- Sickerndes Gift – Der Aschenweberspinnling springt auf einen zufälligen Spielercharakter im Umkreis von 5 Metern und injiziert diesem ein Gift, das 10 sec lang alle 2 Sek. 308 Feuerschaden verursacht.
Vollgesogener Brutling – Diese leicht entzündlichen Spinnen fixieren sich auf einen zufälligen Spielercharakter und wirken 'Flüchtige Explosion', wenn sie ihr Ziel erreichen.
- Flüchtige Explosion – Vollgesogene Brutlinge explodieren, wenn sie einen Spielercharakter erreichen, und fügen allen Feinden im Umkreis von 8 Metern dabei 44 Feuerschaden zu.

Phase 2: Die Raserei!

Nachdem sie 3-mal 'Schwelende Verwüstung' gewirkt hat, gerät Beth'tilac in Raserei. Sie lässt sich aus ihrer sicheren Position oben im Aschennetz herab und ruft nicht mehr ihre Brut zu Hilfe.

Raserei – Beth'tilac wirkt in regelmäßigen Abständen 'Raserei' und erhöht ihren verursachten Schaden bis zum Ende der Begegnung um 5%. Stapelbar.
Der Witwenkuss – Beth'tilacs tödlicher Kuss bringt das Blut ihres aktuellen Ziels zum Kochen, was die erhaltene Heilung des Ziels 20 sec lang alle 2 Sek. um (129.833% of Spell power)% verringert. Durch den Kuss fügt das Ziel auch allen seinen Verbündeten im Umkreis von 10 Metern ansteigenden Feuerschaden zu.
Funkenleuchtfeuer – Beth'tilac strahlt flammende Hitze aus, die allen Feinden, die sich auf derselben Ebene wie Beth'tilac befinden, 986 Feuerschaden zufügt.
Verschlingen – Beth'tilac verzehrt Aschenweberspinnlinge und heilt sich dadurch selbst um 10% ihrer maximalen Gesundheit.

Belohnungen

Nach dem Töten dieses NPCs erhaltet Ihr:

Normal
- 250 Ruf mit der Fraktion Rächer des Hyjal

Heroisch
- 250 Ruf mit der Fraktion Rächer des Hyjal

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