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This was way we dealt with the Spirit Kings in our 10 man raid:

We used 1 tank, 2 healers and 7 damage dealer.

Since you encounter the Spirit Kings in a random order, you might want to alternate your tactics by some degree.

Every King has a set of abilities, he uses since the moment he becomes active. And he keeps using one of them after being defeated.

Qiang the Merciless
1. He calls for Flankierbefehle every 40 seconds while alive and every 75 seconds while defeated. When this event occurs a group of mogu warriors will move in a direct path from one end to the other end of the room.
2. Massiver Angriff is a frontal cone attack he uses in very short intervalls. It's damage is split by the number of targets hit. Make sure all raids members are being hit, otherwise Quiang oneshots people very fast.
3. Vernichten is another frontal cone attack but make sure that no one gets hit because it's doing high damage but not splitting like ability 2. It's cone is indicated by clouds of dust.
Stack together and have your tank coordinating the group. Everyone has to stand inside the tank, so he is the one to announce in which direction he dodges Flankierbefehle, Vernichten or any other ability from the defeated kings which has to be avoided.
Group heal is needed, can really help out, if healers are having mana issues with this fight.
Meng the Demented
Meng is a tricky one. He has two stances with increasing strength as his insanity increases. After reaching 100% insanity he switches the stance and starts again with an empty bar.
1. Wahnsinnig is the stance he deals increased damage. Prepare to heal your tank after insanity reaches futher than 60%.
2. While being affected by Feigheit, Meng acts like being feared by a warlock, running slowly through the room, but reflecting damage as insanity increases. As soon as insanity reaches 60% a damage stop is needed to preserve healer's mana.
In addition to that he has two active abilities:
1. Wahnsinnerweckender Schrei allowing you to deal damage to your raidmembers and also applies a damage over time effect, which is dispelled after receiving a set amount of damage (40,000 in 10 man). He keeps this ability after being defeated.
2. Verrückter Gedanke is a 2 second cast, increasing Meng's insanity by 10.
Make sure to stack again, in order of breaking the effects of Wahnsinnerweckender Schrei very fast with area of effect attacks like Arcane Explosion. Those spells should not have any secondary effects.
The other aspect of dealing with the mad king is knowing how to interrupt his Verrückter Gedanke spell. As a rule of thumb, after reaching 60% you do not want to interrupt anymore in order to pass this phase as quick as possible.
Make sure to have a damage stop at 60% insanity while Meng is affected by Feigheit in order to preserve healers' mana.
Zian of the Endless Shadow
1. He uses Unsterbliche Schatten to summon small orbs, looking like a purple skull, which fixate to a randomly chosen player. After being killed they form a voidzone, which shrinks till the Undying Shadow is reborn after 30 seconds. This time it chooses the closes player standing to the voidzone while it respawns as target for fixate. Those targets have low HP but deal a high amount of shadow damage to close players. He retains this ability after being defeated.
2. Aufgeladene Schatten is like a shadow version of chain lightning, but dealing the same amount of damage to every target. It's jumping range is 8 yards.
3. Schattenschlag is a debuff dealing a good amount of shadow damage to all targets within 8 yards.
Make sure to spread out the raid to prevent his abilities from dealing damage to more than one player.
The ones fixiated by Unsterbliche Schatten should kite it to the wall and make sure it gets killed there by ranged dps. It is tempting to deal damage as soon as possible, but this causes trouble with the void zones. Assign a "volunteer" to stand close to those void zones, to deal with the respawning adds.
Subetai the Swift
1. He uses Plündern to deal damage in a random area and applies a healing and armor reduction debuff to all targets hit by this ability. He uses this ability after being defeated.
2. He shoots a large Salve dealing small damage in a wide cone, followed by Salve dealing damage in a medium cone, finished by Salve which is a single shot, which can oneshot players.
3. Pfeilregen choose a random target and pinning every player within 8 yards of the target down. Those pinned down players are unable to do any actions untill the arrows are killed. (One arrow per target hit)
Dealing with the pillager is pretty simple. Spread the raid prevents him hitting more than one target with Pfeilregen. Targets affected by Pfeilregen have to be freed asap!
Everything else is just dodging his cone attack and his Plündern, as well as the other kings' abilities.

Since the order in which you have to fight those kings is randomly chosen, you have to watch out for the abilities of the defeated kings and adapt to them, while killing the active one. Therefore I just mentioned the abilities of the active one, since the combinations which are possible would be too many.

The abilities which the kings use after being defeated are:

Flankierbefehle (Qiang the Merciless)
Wahnsinnerweckender Schrei (Meng the Demented)
Unsterbliche Schatten (Zian of the Endless Shadow)
Plündern (Subetai the Swift)

Here is a video showing how my guild dealt with the bossmechanics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQUo_ZVz8h4&feature=bf_next&list=PLHs1z6wAbUQDtrnOqLC6ggsBqTuMn2qKG
We had the order:

Qiang the Merciless
Zian of the Endless Shadow
Subetai the Swift
Meng the Demented

And notice that this video is showing how Qiang is pulled wrong.

Additions in heroic

At 30%HP the next King will spawn, so you have to fight two kings at the same time during the transitions.
The order is fixed to:
1. Qiang the Merciless
2. Subetai the Swift
3. Zian of the Endless Shadow
4. Meng the Demented
Each King gains a new ability that works as a self buff:
Undurchdringlicher Schild makes Qiang immune to damage, dispells all debuffs and makes him attack for each hostile action that is dealt to him. (only dispellable with Massenbannung)
Subetai does a debuff that reduces damage and healing done and armor value by 50% while affected by Fingerfertigkeit. If he is stunned the debuff will not be applied. Ranged DD have to watch out with slow flying projectiles as the cast is shorter than the time your projectiles may need.
Zian will deal high damage to the raid, when his Schild der Dunkelheit is active. A damage stop is required until all 5 stacks are dispelled.
Meng gains the double amount of insanity, when affected by Im Delirium. Simply dispell this enrage effect when he is under 60% insanity and let it on him, when above this threshold.

A video of how my guild did the heroic difficulty can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmrxB5Tx_SI&list=PLHs1z6wAbUQDtrnOqLC6ggsBqTuMn2qKG&index=9

Kommentar von Tequima

Basic guide for impatient raids. Assumes you have DBM or similar:

You will get the bosses going corporeal in any order. Ability in bold italics is repeated when still in spirit form. Q is the only one you stack for (Meng, only stack when he does Maddening Shout); rest spread with /range 8. Bosses best tanked in centre so you can see direction of Flanking Orders and spread around for other attacks.

Qiang (pronounced Jang) - stack

All in front to share damage from Massive Attacks; move behind to avoid Annihilate. Use group heals
Move from Flanking Orders (adds marching in a line will one shot you) pref. in same direction as tank

Meng - spread - stack for Maddening Shout (but don't kite a Meng's Undying Shadow into raid) & AoE

Crazed: let every Crazy Thought through to shorten. Heavy heal tank at 60%
Cowardice: interrupt to prolong until 60%, then stop damage

Subetai - spread to avoid multiple Pillage and arrow Pinning

Volley: move out - 1st 100K dmg, 2nd 200K, 3rd 400k
Rain: hit to remove arrow from pinned person ASAP

Zian - spread to avoid multiple people hit with Charged Shadows/Shadow Blast

Charged Shadows/Shadow Blast: interrupt; target needs extra heals
Undying shadows: fixated player, kite and move to wall; kill to drop defile-like pool. Pool shrinks, shadow comes back to life after 30 secs (soft enrage)

Minor edits to reflect sucessful raid tactics

Kommentar von Kattonge

I just noticed a cool thing about flanking orders, you dont really have to move out of the line to avoid the damage. You can just move right through it if you time it so you move past them when they dont "slice".

Kommentar von Fylwind

Spirit Kings on heroic difficulty

Normal-difficulty Spirit Kings is one of the easiest encounters in the raid, yet in heroic it turns into one of the most complex encounters to execute correctly. It requires lots of cooperation, self-awareness, and ~~a dash of good luck~~ a Blizzard hotfix that makes it far less RNG.

The order of the encounter on heroic difficulty is: Qiang, Subetai, Zian, and Meng. The main complexity of the encounter occurs during the transition phases, when you have two kings alive simultaneously (DPS cooldowns are usually best saved this time).

Typical setup for 10-player heroic difficulty: 1 tank, 2 healers, and 7 DPS. 3-healing is doable but your DPS will have to be strong enough to beat the Berserk. You will want to have at least one priest for Massenbannung, though it's not strictly necessary.

Each of the bosses (except Meng) have a special heroic-only ability -- a "shield" that causes retaliation of some sort if you attack them with active abilities. An active ability is an ability that is directly caused by the player, including:

casting a spell (technically, retaliation occurs when the spell lands, not when cast),
applying/refreshing a DoT,
using a melee or ranged ability,
as well as autoattacking.

Uncontrollable proc effects and periodic damage from DoTs are not considered to be active abilities. Melee must ensure that they stop autoattacking when the shield is being cast, while ranged must be even more cautious as some projectiles can take more than 2 seconds to land on the boss. (Not sure whether pets and guardians can trigger the effect -- need more info.)

Qiang uses Undurchdringlicher Schild. This shield will cause Qiang to cleave the raid whenever he receives an attack. The shield can be removed by Mass Dispel.
Subetai uses Fingerfertigkeit. This "shield" causes attackers to gain a debuff similar to Geplündert but lasting twice as long (particularly dangerous for tanks). The Sleight of Hand effect can be temporarily suppressed by stunning the boss. Be aware that the ability lasts 8 sec so most stuns are insufficient to cover the entire duration on their own (stuns have diminishing returns as well, much like in PvP).
Zian uses Schild der Dunkelheit. This shield will inflict massive Shadow damage the raid whenever he receives an attack. Think of the icon as a harsh reminder that this is a deadly, raid-wiping ability if your DPS don't stop their attacks immediately (and preferably ahead of time). The shield has 5 initial stacks on 10-player heroic difficulty, so be sure to Purge/Dispel/etc all the stacks before returning to DPS the boss.
Meng is the oddball. His new ability is Im Delirium, which doubles his energy generation while it's up. You can Soothe (or Tranq. Shot) the buff off but it's not overly important. To help your healers, you should leave this buff up whenever his energy is above 60.

The bosses can be roughly categorized as "stacking" and "spreading" bosses. Dealing with a stack/stack or spread/spread boss transition is usually easy, but stack/spread transitions can be rough. It is therefore important to know the degree to which stacking and spreading is necessary.

Qiang is obviously a stacking boss due to Massiver Angriff, but it isn't absolutely necessary for the whole raid to stack (although preferable to do so).
Subetai is a spreading boss because of his Festsetzender Pfeil. On 10-player heroic difficulty, a minimum of 3 players must remain outside when Festsetzender Pfeil is about to occur, otherwise he can pin the entire melee group.
Zian is a spreading boss thanks to pretty much all his abilities (Unsterbliche Schatten is the major culprit). It is possible to stack cautiously as long as Schattenschlag is interrupted regularly and Unsterbliche Schatten is on cooldown.
Meng is a stacking boss due to Wahnsinnerweckender Schrei, but the raid can spread out as long as Wahnsinnerweckender Schrei is on cooldown.

Some tips:

When Qiang is below 30%, the timing is usually such that he will Vernichten while the Flankierbefehle are still in progress. The best way to handle this is to pull the boss quickly all the way to the wall, and let him Vernichten facing the wall. This maximizes the amount of room available for other players to dodge other abilities (including the ones from the 2nd boss).
A couple seconds after Subetai engages, he will Salve the raid. Therefore, if the raid is stacked, they must be prepared get out of the Volley instantly or suffer fatal damage.
Any ability that removes Physical debuffs and/or breaks stuns can be used to remove the Festsetzender Pfeil effect (both the stun and the DoT), e.g. Segen des Schutzes, Überlebenswille. Sometimes it bugs out the Festsetzender Pfeil add that spawns, preventing it from despawning. As long as the player is free, the Festsetzender Pfeil add is of no concern.
Very often Unsterbliche Schatten can line up with Wahnsinnerweckender Schrei. The Shout can do a lot of damage if players are not broken out instantly, while the Shadows inflict high damage in a small radius. There are two ways to deal with it and it depends on the situation:
Stack up, break the Shout, and then spread back out immediately.
Stay semi-spread out, assign players to break each other from the Shout.

Kommentar von That1tallguy

"The Spirit Kings now activate in a fixed order." as of December 3rd hotfix!
I do not know of this fixed order yet but will find out soon enough.

Lets just hope Meng the Demented is last!

Kommentar von perculia

The correct boss ID in the Dungeon Journal is Zian des endlosen Schattens. Please leave comments on that page instead!

Zian des endlosen Schattens <Zaubererkönig>

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