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Kommentar von 112652

This appears to be a quest to defeat Thorim with his hard mode.
It seems to be that if you can 'lure Thorim into the arena' this will make 'Sif' present in the fight...
Pure spectulation: Theres prolly a time limit or something more difficult because of this - like 'Sif' joining in? :)

Kommentar von 9646

It seems now that Sif despawns if you take too long to reach Thorim. Hard mode is where you fight both of them.

-----Below this was PTR speculation-------

The question will be this, while timed, what kind of hard mode is this?

*Emperor Thaurissian Type - Kill Sif, then Thorim is free
*Vael...ish - DPS Thorim quickly and leave Sif up.

Could be either. Either could be "wrong."
*If the former, Blizz might have it set so Thorim enrages at us "killing his wife.".
*If the latter, might be impossible. However, the quest text implies this one.

EDIT:

There was no sign of Sif at all during the open testing. Chances are that as it's his own delusion (caused by Yogg'Saron), only he can see and hear Sif.

Basically, it's likely a case of kill Thorim shortly after starting the event in order to prevent YS from completely overwhelming him.

, by jaxsonbateman.

Hard modes aren't being tested yet. Heck, at least one of the raid bosses needed to have a regular ability hotfixed in for PTR.

This might just very well mean that Darkroot is right, this is a timed fight, and Sif being up or down will have no impact on the fight itself. "Sif" might just be an untargetable and vanish once Thorim goes insane.

Kommentar von Maliander

Quest chain:

Archivum Data Disc - Started from Archivum Data Disc - Dropped by killing Molgeim or Steelbreaker last in the Iron Council ecounter.
The Celestial Planetarium
Hodir's Sigil - Defeat Hodir on his hard mode
Thorim's Sigil - Defeat Thorim on his hard mode
Freya's Sigil - Defeat Freya on her hard mode
Mimiron's Sigil - Defeat Mimiron on his hard mode
Algalon - Recieve the Celestial Planetarium Key which allows the entire raid acces to Algalon once Yogg-Saron has been killed.
Kill Algalon to be able to get All is well that ends well.

Kommentar von Tyrsenus

Unlocking the Celestial Planetarium

Complete I Choose You, Steelbreaker or I Choose You, Runemaster Molgeim, enabling one Archivum Data Disc to drop (it is not party loot; similar to Key to the Focusing Iris).
Accept the quest from the disc and bring it to the Archivum Console, located beyond the Assembly of Iron.
After listening to the Archivum Console speak, accept the quest The Celestial Planetarium from Prospector Loren. Locate the Celestial Planetarium and return to Prospector Loren.
This enables four quests to obtain the watchers' sigils, which may be performed in any order:

Freya's Sigil - Complete Knock, Knock, Knock on Wood.
Hodir's Sigil - Complete I Could Say That This Cache Was Rare.
Mimiron's Sigil - Complete Firefighter.
Thorim's Sigil - Complete Lose Your Illusion.

Complete all four quests to enable the quest Algalon from Prospector Loren.
Simply speak to the Archivum Console to complete the quest, rewarding Celestial Planetarium Key.

Kommentar von Killsomethin

As long its hard more does the raid size matter once u complete it? i got the quests in 10 man heroic do i have to complete it on 10 heroic or can i do it on 25?

Kommentar von ljgard

I think this quest is bugged. Just did it on hard mode, but no sigil dropped. this happening to anyone else or just me?

Kommentar von 160411

I believe this quest is no longer completable, having defeated hard mode while on the quest and not receiving the sigil.

Kommentar von ayrenn

This quest still works as far as I can tell. At level 100 this requires nothing special to solo. All you have to do is kill the jormungar and the other NPCs at the start, use the lever to open the gate, run through the corridor to reach Thorim on his platform and attack him. He'll jump down, allowing you to defeat him. You'll get the sigil from the chest that appears.

Kommentar von Kipex

Working fine in patch 7.0.3 post Legion launch:

10man
Go in the room and kill the initial trash until the lever to open the left door becomes active.
Open it, run through, avoid the middle circles in the ground on the top floor.
Aggro Thorim so he jumps down, jump after him rightaway, kill him.
Sigil is in the chest

Kommentar von nahkhaz

This quest does not seem to be able to be completed if you kill Thorim (and loot his cache) prior to getting the quest.

Kommentar von Wachassa

In order to the chest to show up you have to reach Thorim before Sif leaves.

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Thorims Siegel

Ausgrabungsleiter Doren im Archivum in Ulduar möchte, dass Ihr in den Besitz von Thorims Siegel gelangt.

Um mehr darüber herauszufinden, wie Ihr Thorims Siegel erlangen könnt, solltet Ihr die Archivumkonsole zu Rate ziehen.

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Thorim ist nicht er selbst, <Name>. Er ist das Opfer einer dunklen Macht geworden, die ihn nun steuert.

Das Opfer von etwas Bösem, das ihm die Illusion vorspielt, seine verstorbene Frau Sif zu sein.

Ihr dürft nicht zulassen, dass der Zauber dieses Betrügers ihn überwältigt. Denn sollte es so kommen, wird das Wissen um die Lage des Siegels für immer verloren sein!

Ihr müsst ihn zur Vernunft bringen und zwar schnell.

Wie immer wird Euch die Archivumkonsole mit allen schmutzigen Details versorgen... selbst mit denen, die Euch nicht gefallen.

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Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(13610))

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