Kurzübersicht

Reihe

1.	Auf nach Mondbruch!
2.	Propaganda
3.	Der Anbruch eines neuen Tages
4.	Gelöste Geheimnisse
5.	Eine Vision aus der Vergangenheit
6.	Aufstieg der Bruderschaft
7.	Rückkehr zur Späherkuppe
8.	Eine Bedrohung für das Königreich

Handlungsstrang
Westfall Der Mordfall war der Fall, den sie mir gaben Auf heißer Spur: Der Flusspfotenklan Auf der Spur: Murlocs Ein Treffen mit Lou Zweischuh Wie die Made im Speck Lous Abschiedsworte Die Vernehmung der Saldeans Die Zeiten sind schwer Westfalleintopf Unser Dank ist Euch gewiss Hoffnung für das Volk Die Hungrigen und die Hoffnungslosen speisen Die Verteidigung Westfalls Findet Agentin Kearnen Geheimnisse des Turms Viel Ärger in Mondbruch Auf nach Mondbruch! Propaganda Der Anbruch eines neuen Tages Gelöste Geheimnisse Eine Vision aus der Vergangenheit Aufstieg der Bruderschaft Rückkehr zur Späherkuppe

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Kommentare

Kommentar von 1440987

Eine Vision aus der Vergangenheit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wakE8jTSH4Q

Kommentar von 1374013

Eine Vision aus der Vergangenheit https://youtu.be/-COYyxsasWE

Kommentar von Boxofbeer

Eine Vision aus der Vergangenheit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMemwKM5U3A

Kommentar von Ahnungslos

Es genügt nicht, die Todenminen zu betreten - man muss bis zum Dungeoneingang bei 25_51 durchlaufen und kann erst im Dungeon den Questgegenstand (Visionstrank) aktivieren und die Quest erledigen.

Kommentare

Kommentar von Vlad

You must enter The Deadmines to use the quest item provided.

You are taken back in time, simulating how the players themselves fought and killed VanCleef. You discover he has a daughter but you didn't see her before since the party always jumped down for Cookie -dum dum dum!

Kommentar von 244471

Enter Deadmines, use item (looks like Primal Air) an enjoy. Dangeon must be normal mode if u are not 85!

Kommentar von blabbo

That group must have been from an RP server :D

Kommentar von 141466

Was it just me or did the hunter really act like a hunTARD? He kept running in and out of Van Cleef's hut like a nincompoop.

Kommentar von 714292

Ok, I'm having some difficulty in this, the quest states "Once inside, use the incense." Ok I'm inside but I can't use the incense. Is there somewhere, specifically, I should be? I've been all over the mine but... no joy, please help

Kommentar von Kanariya

This quest has a frigging sad ending.

Kommentar von 123042

The script:

Five years ago, in the heart of the Deadmines...

Alliance Warrior yells: There's nowhere left to hide, VanCleef! The Defias are THROUGH!
Alliance Warrior yells: We're here to finish this! Face us, coward!
Edwin VanCleef yells: None may challenge the Brotherhood!
<Fight starts>
<Defias Blackguard jumps out of the shadows!>
<Defias Blackguard jumps out of the shadows!>
Edwin VanCleef yells: Lapdogs, all of you!
<Edwin VanCleef calls more of his allies out of the shadows.>
Edwin VanCleef yells: Fools! Our cause is righteous!
Edwin VanCleef yells: The Brotherhood shall prevail!
Alliance Warrior yells: Victory for the Alliance! Glory to Stormwind!
<Fight ends>

Alliance Warrior says: Let us return to Sentinel Hill, allies, and inform Gryan of VanCleef's demise!
<a little girl comes out from the cabin>
<the little girl cries>
Vanessa VanCleef says: Daddy...

Kommentar von bladden

Am I the only one reacting to the fact that this was for only 5 years ago, and Vanessa can't have been more than about 7 or 8 years old at the time, which means that she's now, 5 years later, 12-13 years old... And I'm supposed to kill her knowing that? O_O
I think Blizzard might have failed on that part...

Kommentar von 709937

Interesting to note that you can see the corpses of Mr.Smite, Captain Greenskin, and oddly Cookie in the vision.

I guess now we know that cookie is either a hunter,shaman or warlock.

Kommentar von 667361

I feel guilty after seeing his child crying in sorrow.

Why Blizz? Why you have to create children for some bosses that are killable?

Now I feel like a monster on WoW!

Kommentar von 794263

I could have used some homeless to follow just to find the place to start the quest.

Did anyone else find it odd to hear only one voice speaking lines?

Kommentar von 652122

this quest made me feel bad :'(

Kommentar von 709368

I remember killing that boss before cata and how everyone would jump for Cookie. At the end I spat my coffee out and was like "OH SHIIIII-"

Kommentar von 770239

Just completed quest w/ alt char. and realized clues are there indicating 'whodunit' throughout quest. I liked the way they blacked out 'villIain' like they do in Detective Conan.

Kommentar von 833385

It's south, but not immediately south.

If you are in the right house you will see a label The Deadmines - Defias Hideout pop up as you enter. As for the advice "follow the homeless" it was meaningless to me - there was no pattern to the movements of the homeless here or inside the mines that I could work out. Perhaps this was a bug and others see a stream of homeless making their way to the entrance. Whatever.

From the house, you go up the stairs, and this will get you to the the entrance to the mine.
It all gets twisty at this point, but I went to the southernmost area of the dungeon - lots of undead
and with a different colour on the minimap. I was wrong - go south but before you reach the undead part turn west, that's where the instance portal is. After entering the portal, light the incense.

There are dungeon quests following this one if you need/want them.

Kommentar von Solaire

I still remembered the way through to the portal, so I left the homeless guy in the dust :P This quest was a great bit of nostalgia, with a surprising twist. Well... not so surprising if you've done Heroic Deadmines, but you know what I mean.

Kommentar von 865076

If you see some undeads, you are on the wrong way.
Turn back. The portal is at 38.27, 77.49. map

Kommentar von conark

This wasn't too obvious for me when I did completed this quest, so I wanted to share my thoughts. First, you do have to go into the Deadmines instance to complete this quest, but you don't have to be part of a group (unless you want to run through the instance). In terms of getting to the instance, if you haven't done it before, after entering the building and going upstairs, keep to the right. If you've start fighting undead, you've gone the wrong direction. Once you're inside the instance, you'll just use the item and it'll complete the quest. You'll still have to run back out of the instance to turn it in.

Kommentar von 879376

i cant find the spot to burn incent ...help!

Kommentar von Djsedj

This quest made me cry... :(

Kommentar von 910895

Am I the only one who was unable to turn this one in at all? Gryan doesn't even give his sound clip when clicked on; he just makes the talking gesture and then returns to his animation.

Kommentar von 596567

You have to get inside the Deadmines instance and then use the quest item. I was using it outside even though thats near the entrance as well.

The trick is to find the instance portal, which is abit hard for those who havent done deadmines without the LFG.

Kommentar von Snailians

Born in blood.

Kommentar von 957194

ermmm.. that's not how i remember it...

<edwin vancleef dies>

<tank loots>

healer: ffs, the cloak again?

<random n00b mage rolls need on cloak>

group: ffs n00b, mages don't need agility

mage: lol trolololol /leave

group: -,-

that's how I recall this place ;p

Kommentar von 861734

Anyone else notice that the Alliance Hunter has mana? Ah, I miss those days.

Kommentar von 973043

Don't go far into the dungeon, or you can't use the quest item.

Kommentar von rarsheala

This quest is a lie! So much of it was authentic, the hunter using mana, the group focusing adds then killing Edwin, ect ect... This made me miss this fight, and then made me cry right at the end.. RIGHT as Edwin dies, the rogue uses Shadowstep. What is this madness? From the date of this quest (2010), 5 years ago would put it 2005 (I appreciate how they used RL dates as the years that pass in game), and shadowstep wasn't implemented till 2007... Is this rogue from the future, or perhaps the inventor of shadowstep? If not, then this needs to be changed to be as authentic as they appear to have wanted.

Kommentar von 1058216

I still got lost with all of these instructions, so what I did was to go back to the start and then...

Follow the cave wall around to the right - don't deviate anywhere else. You will very soon come to a wooden bridge and just down and to the right you will see the swirling purple entrance. Simples!

Kommentar von 1108814

Okay, so when you first reach the deadmines, it's all a lie, you have to find the purple portal instance thing which is the entrance to the actual deadmines. :)

Saddest cut scene ending :(

Kommentar von 945326

Of course, back in Vanilla WoW when we were all doing Deadmines to kill VanCleef, priests couldn't shield their tank because a warrior couldn't develop rage while shielded.

And after playing a priest for many years, and healing many level-appropriate groups through Deadmines, I know of absolutely no priest that could have kept their party alive through that fight without quite a few major heals, never mind renews, etc.

But....well....ya know...........details.

Kommentar von minduim0

Welcome to the Deadmines

Kommentar von 1136033

Fathers, its ok...log off for thirty seconds and go hug your daughter.

Daughters, If your father keeps a murloc around the house run to the neighbors and don't go back.

Kommentar von SoloEverything

Hunter your a freaking genius.. call out your friggin' pet chowderhead!

Kommentar von Mondoblasto

I recommend that you fly/taxi back to Sentinel Hill first and set your hearthstone there if you haven't already. That way you can just hearth there instead of running all the way back out to Moonbrook.

Kommentar von midobu

Once you get down to the basement, use "M" key to open a map. You will need to walk all the way to the left on the map to where you see a double circle mark which is the REAL ENTRANCE to The Deadmines instance. Once you walk through the entrance of The Deadmines instance, use the item: Incense Burner to look into its past. After finishing watch the event, get out from the instance and walk all the way back to the outside of the basement.

Note: I found this incredible youtube music video worth viewing about The Deadmines (found in this thread): - Welcome to the Deadmines (Rise to Power 2010 Winner) - . This was created by wow players for the WOW Rise To Power Movie Contest 2010 (which is already finished). Check it out!

Kommentar von 1348053

Are there any quests similar to this one with the NPC group simulation style?

Kommentar von JasperKazai

The only thing inaccurate about this reenactment is that Cookie is already dead. Every group I was ever in killed Cookie last since you'd just drop down on top of him after killing VanCleef.

Kommentar von 1440987

A Vision of the Past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wakE8jTSH4Q

Kommentar von sammyluwho

I'm trying to finish up all the Westfall quests for achievements. When I find Thoralius the Wise, he doesn't have any quests to give me. I'm having similar issues with other quests. What's up?

Kommentar von Parrs

This would've been so perfect if Cookie was still alive and as the group jumps down someone asks if they can kill Cookie.

Kommentar von 1374013

A Vision of the Past https://youtu.be/-COYyxsasWE

Kommentar von Shadorinn

Video from quest acceptance to quest completion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LimrCm8w1fM

Kommentar von Boxofbeer

A Vision of the Past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMemwKM5U3A

Kommentar von WoWGnGP

i made i playthrough of this quest if anyone wish to see how to do it :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJBJ43hS6k0&feature=youtu.be

Kommentar von NessieMo

This is an old but confusing quest, which doesn't tell you that you have to enter (but not clear) the instance. The Wowhead comments didn't help me much, as the homeless wander back and forth so cannot be followed.

So, here's a final precis!

The entrance to the building containing the Deadmines tunnels is at 42.56 71.71

Once inside the Deadmines tunnels, work your way West to the entrance to the Deadmines instance, which is at precisely 26.18 51.06.
Note that these coordinates to the Deadmines instance are for the Deadmines tunnels map, not for the Westfall map.

Coordinates for TomTom users:

/way Westfall 42.56 71.71 Door to building containing Deadmines tunnels

/way 26.18 51.06 Entrance to Deadmines instance - use this only inside Deadmines tunnels

Kommentar von SiIverfox

You need to use the item in Deadmines the dungeon, not Deadmines the cave. I've spent few minutes trying to find the spot near the entrance to the cave since it says "Deadmines" when you enter. Just go to the dungeon itself and use the item right after entering it.

Kommentar von Deshala

Hilarious how the mere fact of going into the instance spoils this entire quest chain because the bosses are in the quest log + on the map. Great quest design.

Kommentar von conmanW

This quest alone is pretty sad. But if you know the full story its even sadder
Because Edwin Vancleef wasnt a villain. Not really.
He and the rest of the stonemasons were refused payment for a job that took Decades to finish. The rebuilding of the entire city of Stormwind.
Long story short, onyxia infiltrated the House of Nobles and manipulated them into not paying.
They rioted, and accidentally killed queen tiffan. One of their few advocates.
They were exiled from stormwind, losing their livelihoods, homes, belongings, family and country. Without a copper to their names.
Edwin vancleef sought to tear down the house of nobles and the feudal system that had screwed over so many people, stealing and pillaging to work towards their goal of building the ogre juggernaut to siege stormwind.
To take back the city they built on their hard backs.
Edwin Vancleef would be the hero the people needed. The dark hero they created.
But we murdered him.
In front of his young daughter no less.
And took his head as our trophy.
That little girl had to crawl her way out of that mine. Past all the dozens if not hundreds of corpses we left behind. Making her way across the most crime ridden destitute part of the kingdom alone until collapsing exhausted in a barn. The saldean family farm. Who took her in and raised her. Her having feigned amnesia to hide her identity as surely if anyone knew she existed shed be hunted down, and her plans shed begin to plot would be for nought.
5 years later (well 2 years after some retcons) the downtrodden and forgotten of stormwind returned, but not the stonemasons. Rather the homeless and poor who lost everything in either the post northrend war economic downturn or had their homes destroyed by the cataclysm. The compound meant to house them turns them away and the conquering heroes of westfall and northrend returned.
The people who sent us to kill edwin vancleef.
It wasnt hard for vanessa to turn the people on stormwind again.
Because once again, the nation had done most of the job on their own.and shed spent her time taking care of the homeless she could either in her home that became a halfway house, or from sentinel hill.
She had the defias organized well enough to plan out complex murders in daylight no less without stormwind ever realizing there was a growing threat in westfall at all.
By the time we realized the defias brotherhood Was truly back it was to late.

Kommentar von conmanW

Kommentar von GibbleFenwick

Ok. I've been playing Classic.
I waited around for half an hour after killing Van Cleef; so I could apologise.
But Vanessa doesn't show up at all.
This flash-back is a fake! :@

Kommentar von Stoneheart98

With 9.0 pre-patch, if you're in Timewalking Campaign (Chromie Time), you can't run into the dungeon manually which makes it difficult to complete this quest. Right now, the only solution is to disable Chromie Time on your character or queue specificly for Deadmines (and you sadly lose that extra XP from random dungeon).

Hope it gets fixed soon!

EDIT: This has been fixed!

Kommentar von Zoroknash

If anyone gets an error saying "You can't enter because of your timewalking campaign", make sure to check your characters dungeon difficulty is set to 'Normal'. (Right click your portrait in the left corner, Dungeon Difficulty > ).

Deadmines has an heroic instance, which is not accessible for lower levels, thus resulting in an error.

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Eine Vision aus der Vergangenheit

Betretet das Versteck der Defias und folgt der Spur der Obdachlosen in die Todesminen. Betretet den Dungeon "Die Todesminen" und benutzt das Räuchergefäß, um in die Vergangenheit zu blicken.

	Vision der Vergangenheit entdeckt (1)

Bereitgestellter Gegenstand:

	Räuchergefäß (1)

Beschreibung

Dieser Weihrauch wird Euren Körper und Euren Geist in tiefe Meditation versetzen. Sobald die Trance beginnt, werdet Ihr in die Geisterwelt übertreten. Wehrt Euch nicht gegen die Trance, sobald sie begonnen hat, <Name>. Erlaubt den Geistern, Euch zu zeigen, was sie wissen.

Ihr müsst nun aufbrechen. Begebt Euch zu den Todesminen, ein Ort, der angeblich eine große Rolle in der Geschichte Westfalls gespielt hat. Sobald Ihr im Inneren seid, benutzt den Weihrauch.

Ihr gelangt durch das alte Bauernhaus südlich von hier in die Todesminen. Folgt den Obdachlosen.

Kehrt zu Gryan zurück und berichtet ihm von dem, was Ihr erfahren habt.

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Belohnungen

Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

250 Ruf mit der Fraktion Sturmwind

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(26320))

Eine Vision aus der Vergangenheit

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