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Kommentar von Bursi

Für die Quest einen der Npc ansprechen, es scheint täglich ein anderer zu sein und man kann sie nur in Frost-Skillung sehen:

Anschließend erhält man den Buff Das Wissen des Rates, welcher Ruf und Erfahrung 2 Stunden lang um 5% erhöht. Dieser kann mehrfach täglich erlangt werden, verschwindet jedoch beim Verlassen der Verheerten Inseln oder Umskillen.

Die Koordinaten für Tomtom aus den englischen Kommentaren, zu verwenden in Dalaran/Legion (die verheerten Inseln):

/way 51.87 68.09 Seanus Copeland
/way 47.96 17.04 Eve Fredrickson
/way 48.75 42.92 Vyrin Ethrezil
/way 24.60 50.13 Fiora Ar'nareth
/way 42.13 48.21 Blinzel
/way 61.58 44.44 "Zippel" Eisblitz
/way 43.66 33.03 Eldragosa

Kommentare

Kommentar von tauna

You are looking for Eve Fredrickson, to the left of the Bank of Dalaran

Kommentar von Ryanne

Incase someone is as stupid as me, respeccing to fire before trying to find the council...you need to have specced frost in order to even see the council.

A target macro including the already mentioned npcs finally did it for me.

Kommentar von Lyariana

At the end of this quest, you're advised that you can seek out a different council member each day.

I did this! i HAD "Fidge" at the entrance of Krassus' Landing on the first day and "Blinks" on the balcony of Photonic Playground on the second.

No idea if finding them all will give some kind of reward, but its fun to do!

Kommentar von Bombkirby

These guys give you a buff that gives you 5% increased rep and experience gains. Grab it before you go out to quest!

Kommentar von Zidane3838

After completing Erinnerungen an Schwarzfrost you can speak to any of the following (changes daily) to receive Das Wissen des Rates, a 5% experience and reputation increase (you can talk to them ~~a set amount of~~ multiple times a day to get the buff back), ONLY in the Broken Isles (if you leave the Broken Isles or change your spec at all you'll lose the buff):

TomTom coordinates macro:

/way Dalaran:Broken Isles 51.87 68.09 Seanus Copeland
/way Dalaran:Broken Isles 47.96 17.04 Eve Fredrickson
/way Dalaran:Broken Isles 48.75 42.92 Vyrin Ethrezil
/way Dalaran:Broken Isles 24.60 50.13 Fiora Ar'nareth
/way Dalaran:Broken Isles 42.13 48.21 Blinks
/way Dalaran:Broken Isles 61.58 44.44 "Fidge" Frostflash
/way Dalaran:Broken Isles 43.66 33.03 Eldragosa

Target macro:

/tar Seanus Copeland
/tar Eve Fredrickson
/tar Vyrin Ethrezil
/tar Fiora Ar'nareth
/tar Blinks
/tar "Fidge" Frostflash
/tar Eldragosa

Kommentar von gauss182

changing spec again removes buff.. it seems you are forced to play on frost

Kommentar von ksquared6000

dying also removes the buff...sad that it doesn't last beyond death.

Kommentar von Krikukiks

Leaving Broken Isles or entering instance removes the buff, but talking to the npc reapplies it.
Also it does not stack with Darkmoon rep buff Jippie!.

Kommentar von PNWRaven

Eve Fredrickson in Antonidas Memorial for me.

Kommentar von strafh

To you see the npc you have to be using Frost spec =]

Kommentar von 200895

Plan to use this buff in "normal" conditions out in the world. I used it just before going to Stormheim the first time, which put me into the instanced introduction to the zone. I didn't get the buff during the fighting then, and it was gone when I came out.

Can anyone confirm if these "memories" are only available once for each ghost? I'd guess so -- it would be logical -- but sad to lose access before I'm 110.

Kommentar von mikochu

You have to be in Frost spec to see them, and you have to stay in Frost to keep the buff. I switched and it went away for me.

The one I found just looked like a ghost, I'm sure the rest do as well. I used the macro someone posted but I realized it wasn't needed, as when I was close enough there was a dot on my minimap.

Kommentar von ravennight

/way 61.8, 44.4 Fridge
/way 47, 24 Eve
/way 25, 48 Fiora
/way 44, 35 Eldragosa
/way 34, 33 Blinks
/way 47, 38 Vyrin
/way 51.7, 68 Seanus

Kommentar von bfaur1979

Is it bugged? I may just be stupid, but I tried it today and I see none of the NPC's. I tried changing spec (I took the quest in frostspec), relogging and abandon and retaking. What am I doing wrong?

Kommentar von beschulz55

I found Vyrin Ethrezil in Legerdemain Lounge at 48.64, 41.70 today.

Kommentar von lybrewa

Found Blinks at 42,48; above the art gallery/toy store.

Kommentar von TravisJCA

Can anyone tell me how to get this quest to spawn? I can't even pick it up.

Kommentar von maku665

I saw one at around 8:00 AM on the left side of the North Bank in Dalaran. She's under the tree reading a book

Kommentar von KaisaLorwynn

Entering instanced quests like will remove your "The Council's Wisdom" buff.

Kommentar von MaraSedai1313

I am so confused.... I picked up this quest this morning. Came back this evening to do it and I cant find any ghosts in Dal to talk to! Yes, I'm frost spec. lol No idea what is wrong. I have been walking the streets and wandering into the buildings of Dal for the last hour and no luck! HALP!

Kommentar von Bantu

Found Eve Fredrickson @48, 17 (You will see a yellow dot on the minimap)

Kommentar von Gracehopper

Sounds as if it's just a matter or luck--or a lot of patience--to find these. I've spent a lot of time on it. Don't know how to make the macros work, either. So, I guess if someone could say how it is best done without the macro . . . or give me a simple explanation of macro-use for my simple mind . . . that would be good.

Nemmine . . . finally found one, completed it, got the buff, lost it via dying. Not sure I'll bother going back and looking for more.

Kommentar von Gaminglady

Only have to find ONE from the above list... mine was located in the Leger(whatever) across from the Barber Shop.

Kommentar von Casn

Forget about using targeting macros or trying to look up their location, only thing you need is that:
You will see NPC marked by yellow dot on your minimap once you get close enough.

Kommentar von cstober2010

I switched to frost spec and found Eldragosa, a big dragon shade resting on top of the herb building. Look for yellow dots on the minimap.

Kommentar von jiveman69

For people who don't have coordinates or TomTom

◾"Fidge" Frostflash - Bottom of the stairs leading to Krasus Landing

◾Eve Fredrickson - To the left of the Bank of Dalaran - the North bank

◾Fiora Ar'nareth - In the Violet Citadel, up the stairs to the second floor

◾Eldragosa - On top of the glass domed building in the Magus Commerce Exchange, in which the Herbalism trainers are found

◾Blinks - In the Photonic Playground, across from the Alliance entrance to Greyfang Enclave , on the balcony of the second floor

◾Vyrin Ethrezil - In the corner of The Legerdemain Lounge

◾Seanus Copeland - Near the fishing trainer, in front of Glorious Goods

Kommentar von Zenaxia

Okay this was very confusing for me, since i tried searching for ways to get this done, and i added a waypoint as linked further down in my description, and when i dident find anything on the location i thought i was doing something wrong or that my quest was bugged.. THIS is not the case, u only need to find ONE of those ghosts to talk to, to complete the quest, for me it was /way 25, 48 Fiora. but any of these locations have a chance to spawn the quest ghost:

/way 61.8, 44.4 Fridge
/way 47, 24 Eve
/way 25, 48 Fiora
/way 44, 35 Eldragosa
/way 34, 33 Blinks
/way 47, 38 Vyrin
/way 51.7, 68 Seanus

So if u dont find it in the first location, try again and search number 2, etc. and YES u do need to be in frost spec or this dont work. hope this clears up abit of the confusion about this quest. :)

Thanks to ravennight for the cords*

Kommentar von Boxofbeer

Only one of reflections can be found (they change each day), so you have to run across the city finding one. When you done the quest you can talk with npc's to get Das Wissen des Rates buff. Dont remember, you have Ebonchill to be equied. Also, buff will remove if you enter any instance or leave Broken Isles.

TomTom:
/way 61.8 44.4 Fridge
/way 47.9 17.0 Eve
/way 24.6 50.1 Fiora
/way 43.6 33.0 Eldragosa
/way 42.1 48.2 Blinks
/way 48.7 42.9 Vyrin
/way 51.8 68.1 Seanus

Erinnerungen an Schwarzfrost — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubcrjp3algg

This quest is a part of Magier class hall quest campaign. Full chain is under the spoiler, you can check your progress through it:

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Magier class hall campaign
1	98	Teufelssturms Bitte	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttVYUNWo12M
2	98	Der Preis des Schreckenslords	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maoeIFEtjTA
3	98	Die Waffe eines Magiers	You have to choose your first artifact
Felo'melorn quest chain
	98	Eine unerwartete Nachricht	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQyev7lLbfE
	98	Der Pfad der Abbitte	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSivVuEYFFw
	98	The Frozen Flame	Felo'melorn	https://youtu.be/TJnOwYOYsgM
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Aluneth quest chain
	98	Aluneth, Großstab der Magna	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpKceJYHZko
	98	Eine neue Bedrohung	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmKD3lkNzKg
	98	Ein vergessener Feind	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn6GgHY8mJI
	98	Augen des Drachen	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMKwzlUqf2Y
	98	Bändigung des Arkanen	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQkSmDeZQPs
	98	Entfesselte Arkanenergie	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq05D35oxUQ
	98	Die Nexuskammer	Aluneth	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4M2aNtVDOQ
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Schwarzfrost quest chain
	98	Suche nach Schwarzfrost	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huw0Xksk_ZE
	98	Alodis Edelsteine	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drT8DeBAhM8
	98	Forschungsstandort der Totenwinde	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdPFGMd73jU
	98	Daio der Klapprige	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyJm7cDIwLA
	98	Der Magierjäger	Schwarzfrost
4	98	Die Rückkehr des Champions
5	98	Verborgenes Potenzial
6	98	Der Große Akazamzarak	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rQX5Ehh36Q
7	98	Die wahre Art zu reisen
8	98	Die Wiederauferstehung der Tirisgarde	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N54DWopFK_U
9	98	Die Pflicht eines Oberhauptes
10	101	Erhebt Euch, Champions	300 x Ordensressourcen
101	Champion: Erzmagierin Modera	Erzmagierin Modera
101	Champion: Erzmagier Kalec	Erzmagier Kalec
101	Zauberhafte Technik	100 x Ordensressourcen
101	Erzmagierin Omniara	Omniara braucht Hilfe
101	Aufbau der Truppen	100 x OrdensressourcenWater elementals training
101	Ein bisschen aufrüsten, bitte	500 x Ordensressourcen Ruhm des Ordens
101	Uralte Magie	Uralte Magie
101	Erinnerungen an Schwarzfrost	Glitzerndes Erinnerungsstück	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubcrjp3algg
17	103	Ein unerwarteter Besucher	https://youtu.be/QkHY0lbi0vU
18	103	Eine Geheimoperation	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuHqX5AF8tQ
19	103	Bereit machen zur Assimilation	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdS_GwnPn3kJOK0
20	103	Was geht hier vor?	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thIc4iKQcMM
21	103	Eindämmung	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFMztlvff88
22	103	Wissen, das man nicht teilen sollte	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbPHKXZo_5c
23	103	Letzter Ausweg	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBQR1n3XQH4
24	103	Bericht über die Empyreumgesellschaft	1000 x Ordensressourcen Wasserkugel Ruhm des Ordens	https://youtu.be/LZyah-SvbOk
24.1	103	Champion: Esara Verrinde	Esara Verrinde
103	Champion: Ravandwyr	Ravandwyr
103	Rekrutierung von Lehrlingen	Kirin Tor invokers recruiting
103	Der Rat tagt	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufKhlvVRuPo
27	103	Erzmagier Vargoths Rückzugsort	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWbYShqVLE
28	103	Spurensuche	Erzmagiers Vargoths Reisen: Das Gewölbe der NachtgeborenenErzmagiers Vargoths Reisen: Für immer beste FreundeErzmagiers Vargoths Reisen: Die Ruinen von Nar'thalasErzmagiers Vargoths Reisen: Die Gelehrten von Tel'anorErzmagiers Vargoths Reisen: Die Wälder des Eschentals
110	Kalecs Plan	250 x Ordensressourcen	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnZwae86kQQ
30	110	Orange ist das neue Violett	Gugel der Tirisgarde
110	Es steht geschrieben	Artifact knowledge research
110	Ein kleiner Gefallen	https://youtu.be/GIRAerAxG8I
33	110	Alles nach der richtigen Methode	https://youtu.be/SSbhCey7bdo
34	110	Aris Päckchen
35	110	Aller guten Dinge sind drei
35.1	110	Champion: Arkaner Zerstörer	Arkaner Zerstörer
110	Die Macht der Tirisgarde	250 x Ordensressourcen
110	Kein zahnloser Drache	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_LxOIgFBk
38	110	Der Feind meines Feindes...	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdfi2TM7Yss
39	110	Essen für alle	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar2iXUxJScI
39.1	110	Champion: Millhaus Manasturm	Millhaus Manasturm
110	Das ist der Untergaaaaaaang!	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxB9p3MrAyc
41	110	Ein furchtbarer Verlust	1500 x Ordensressourcen Armschienen der Tirisgarde Größerer Ruhm des Ordens
110	Das Auge Azsharas: Ein magisches Gebrechen	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO_j51Smkaw
43	110	Wo ein Wille ist, ist auch ein Weg	Vorbereitungen für das Oculus: Eine alptraumhafte LageVorbereitungen für das Oculus: In der OffensiveVorbereitungen für das Oculus: KommunikationsstörungVorbereitungen für das Oculus: Leygt sie umVorbereitungen für das Oculus: Eternos
110	Reise in das Oculus	5000 x Ordensressourcen Roben der Tirisgarde Größerer Ruhm des Ordens titleEine glorreiche KampagneRelic to choose	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsxUTywBK2w
44.1	110	Champion: Erzmagier Vargoth	Erzmagier Vargoth
110	Champion: Meryl Teufelssturm	Meryl Teufelssturm
110	Die Waffe eines Helden	3rd relic slotFür die Schlacht geschmiedet

Kommentar von ssakrend

For people with no patience(like myself)

you dont have to talk to all members, one is enough
check all locations till you see one pop up
i think not sure, only one of them is active at a time - checked all locations, the last one of the members was up for me
for me coords didnt work, it showed something very far away, might have used it wrong but its not really needed, i just looked up npc names here and went to general location shown on map, they are visible, target macro didnt work either (or i might have used it wrong i dont know how tho)but it wasnt needed, they are visible enough
be in frost spec, if not, change spec and relog
people say to abandon quest and retake it if none show up- in case you forgot where you took it from and class hall is confusing, as for me, a new mage and all rooms look the same - is in the artifact altar area, normal yellow quest
you know you found one member even if you dont see it yet(kinda makes target macro useless for me)when you see the usuall golden dot on the minimap which also tells you the name of the thing --i figure if you are in the usuall area of the npc you will see it first on minimap no need to zoom in and stick eyes to pc screen--

this is not new information, just what i found out while i made the quest, and i also saw after i did the quest that there are lots of comments saying all above but separatly... but i didnt check them all before because there are a lot!look how manycomments! i had no patience -- reason why i put it in one place--

i clicked the npc names provided in Zidane3838 's post to see their general location, handy :D

anyway, have a good day :)

Kommentar von vicioushunter

This buff seems to frequently fall off while in the broken shores zone. Not sure if a bug or intended yet. No confirmation from a GM either way.

Kommentar von g90814

I guess this is Blizzards way of telling you that you MUST use frost spec for leveling :/

Kommentar von Altrag

So this was confusing. I saw the little frost ring at the bottom of Krasus' Landing stairs and couldn't do anything with it. After coming here, I discovered that this is supposed to be "Fidge" Frostflash.

I had to /tar him and use my interact button because apparently, the actual NPC is stuck in the middle of the pillar at the moment. So look for him there if you don't otherwise see him. (Also, I highly recommend binding something to Interact with Target for situations like this.. super handy. Its under the Targeting category in they key bindings menu.)

Kommentar von Cimegs5088

Does a transmorgged Ebonchill cause this quest to not be available to player? I got the quest but my wife didn't. She xmog her ebonchill but i didn't.

Kommentar von Hentaya

Two researched points to note:

Confirmed that, as of now, changing out of Frost spec makes it go away, but flying from Dalaran to the Broken Shore does not.

As well, this buff stacks with the Human bonus, and works when using Reputation items...862 rep for a human out of a 750 granted item.

So the buff has a use even if you don't want to be a cowardly frost mage. :)

Kommentar von Menaap

You need to find any of a number of hidden NPC's.
They grant a buff for 5% increased XP and Rep gain, for 2 hours.

Since some bug out and overall you'll spend time looking to find one, you may aswell hand in the quest right away (in class hall).
The buff isn't worth keeping the quest, it merely compensates time lost.

Kommentar von Sizematterz

Thankyou very much! so helpful

Kommentar von Jeffrion

Don't just look for the yellow dot. I flew around for a while looking without success. Remember that if the NPC is indoors the dot will show up as white. I found Vyrin Ethrizil in The Legerdmain Lounge at 48.6, 41.3 to complete the quest.

Kommentar von Wolfcat

For anyone who had trouble finding any of these folks even after speccing back to frost, like me...make sure you have Ebonchill equipped as well. I went flying all over Dalaran in frost and saw nobody at any of the points mentioned. Realized I didn't have the weapon equipped, switched to it, and immediately found Blinks.

Kommentar von Kilrathi3

If you are beating your skull against the cold hard stone walls of Dal looking for your target npc...
See Jiveman69 post, the best info on who to look for, since it is random who you will need to find.

for me, Vyrin Ethrezil in Legerdemain.
and I did not see the yellow dot on my mini map until i was inside the bar,
so flying around dal will not help much.

Kommentar von jlieb

They can be inside buildings and above ground!

Kommentar von drpimento

no yellow dot. white dot moves around to where I'm not. Not worth it. Blizzard changes its name to Tedium.

Kommentar von Manniala

Remember to have your Artifact weap equipped, i could not find it, until i saw that i had my Loom weap, and once i equipped my frost artifact, it was ther :/

Kommentar von voodoo3defx

Mine ended up being Fiona Ar'narteth in the Violet Citadel.

Kommentar von SaSkIn

You need stupid ebonchill equiped. Greetings from level 120

Kommentar von ZalidTheBur

This has not worked for me in ages. The buff is put on and a few seconds later, poof it's gone. Would have been nice to have this now with the rep buff added. I suspect it is actually part of BfA disabling the artifact weapon abilities and Blizzard not completely removing this whole system so it makes people like me wonder if it is acually bugged or not.

Kommentar von KrazieFox

I've spent the better part of a day trying to complete this quest. I have abandoned and retaken is several times. The 'Buff' I see mentioned many times above is non existant (is that buff still relevant late 2020?).

I am in Frost Spec and am carrying Ebonchill - but many hours ans still no 'Reflection' - I've read every comment here and watched numerous YouTube videos - but none show up for me. Is that the whole questchain now not completable?

I am beyond frustrated :(

I should add I have no 'addons' (I don't use them)

No 'Buff' is ever applied at anypoint

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After many hours and numerous abandoning/retaking I eventually found "Fiora Ar'nareth" <Memory of the Council of Tirisfal> upstairs in the Violet Citadel, up the stairs behind Khadgar and crew and just to the left - she's holding a wine glass and was sparkling (like quest items do). There was a greyed out dot with an 'up arrow' as I went past The Violet Citadel.

I am so relieved this quest is finally completed - I even reported this quest as broken to Blizzard.

Kommentar von fathom81

if you transmog your weapon to any ebonchill appearance you will be given the quest; i havent even unlocked the staff on this alt :P (you cant complete it tho, you need it equipped)

Kommentar von Averdynne

The coords given in comments are helpful - also, yellow dot on minimap - for those of you (like me) who do things way after you're supposed to . . . make sure you've equipped Ebonchill ;) - you can put it back in mothballs as soon as you finish.

Kommentar von Apheus

THE most important fact to complete this quest is that you HAVE to have Ebonchill equipped in order to see Eldragosa laying on the Herbalism building in Broken Isles Dalaran. Coords (44.36, 33.77). You don't have to be in Frost spec, just have Ebonchill equipped.

Hope this helps. Peace.

Kommentar von Nahalaina

Please help! I was on the Memories of Ebonchill but like an idiot I thought I'd I abandoned it I could pick it up later. I can't get it back. I've sent in two tickets about it. Nothing. If anyone has had this problem and knows the solution, please help! I'm trying to get the Archimage title and I need to complete every quest.

Thank you!

Kommentar von Korveus

Found the quest NPC Fiora Ar'Nareth in the Violet Citadel , behind Khadgar up the stairs to the left .
Coords are 25 / 50 .

Kommentar von WokkaD

In my case it was Seanus Copeland outside Glorious Goods, next to the fishing pond and vendor (Marcia Balzer).

Just fly (or ride) around Dalaran looking for the yellow (or grey if inside) dot.

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Erinnerungen an Schwarzfrost

Sucht nach einem Abbild eines Mitgliedes des Rates von Tirisfal in Dalaran. Sprecht mit dem Abbild, um dessen Weisheit zu erhalten.

	Sprecht mit einem Abbild eines Mitgliedes des Rates von Tirisfal (1)

Beschreibung

Habt Ihr da etwa Schwarzfrost? Alodis alten Stab? Meine Güte... <Hust>

In den Tagen des ersten Wächters haben alle Mitglieder des Rates von Tirisfal dem jungen Magier ihre Mächte überlassen. Sie hofften, so die Legion zu überwältigen. <Keuch> Inzwischen sind sie alle dahingeschieden... doch Euer Stab erinnert sich.

Sucht unter uns in den Straßen von Dalaran nach den Abbildern der ehemaligen Ratsmitglieder. Ihre Erinnerungen können Euch ermächtigen, wie sie es einst mit Alodi getan haben. Sucht sie auf und sprecht mit einem von ihnen!

Vervollständigung

Belohnungen

Ihr bekommt:

	Glitzerndes Erinnerungsstück

Belohnungen

Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(42429))

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