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1.	Vol'jin, Sohn von Sen'jin
2.	Atal'Dazar: Die Asche eines Kriegshäuptlings
3.	Ihr schuldet mir einen Geist

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Der gefallene Häuptling Zalazanes Rückkehr Gescheiterter Handel Vol'jins Gleve Rache für Vol'jin Einen wahren Anführer ehren Vol'jin, Sohn von Sen'jin Atal'Dazar: Die Asche eines Kriegshäuptlings Ihr schuldet mir einen Geist

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Kommentare

Kommentar von toksi

As of beta build 26567 there doesn't appear to be anywhere in Atal'Dazar to place the urn.

Kommentar von xstaindx

in build 26629 you place this at the lake in the upper middle section of the Atal'Dazar dungeon. From there Bwonsomdi interrupts you and then sends you on a follow up quest to the necropolis in Northern Nazmir for him to collect the urn from you rather than you leaving it at the lake. The follow up quest is called "You Owe Me A Spirit".

Seems he has some unfinished business to tend to with Vol'jin.

Once you turn in the quest "You owe me a spirit" a pop up achievement in progress is shown to the player; "The fallen Chieftain". As of this build, the questline doesn't go any further.

Kommentar von Santobimba

I have uploaded photo that may help you what is looks like and where it locates. In case waiting for approval you can also look from here: https://imgur.com/a/KpciUXV

1. Queue for Atal'Dazar dungeon and get in the party ( I actually did without queuing as Hunter, I run to the lake and Feign Death.. Eeeassyy :) )
2. Follow your way to Vol'kaal. Kill the boss and turn right to lake. (Of course if you are alone, you don't need to kill the boss. But with party, usually you follow people)
3. Click Urn of Vol'jin
4. Bwonsamdi will be in front of you, after completing quest. He will give you another quest which is Ihr schuldet mir einen Geist
5. Go to Nazmir and complete it at "The Necropolis"
6. First part of Geister mit Euch achievement is done

Kommentar von varenne

You need to go to the Atal'Dazar dungeon.
Can complete it on Normal, Heroic or Mythic difficulty.
I don't think it can be done on m+.

Vol'jins Urne is located near the water pool, (the only green area on the map)
It is near the Vol'kaal boss
Vol'jins Urne location video: https://youtu.be/12JHaSjPIM0?t=16m59s

This quest is part of the The Fallen Chieftain (Vol'jin) questchain of Geister mit Euch <= more info inside or look under the spoiler.

Quest before this questchain is Zandalar für immer!

ID	Quest	Questchain	Questgiver	Subzone	Video
1	Zalazanes Rückkehr	The Fallen Chieftain	Rokhan	The Great Seal	https://youtu.be/T6P1cWsDuZo
2	Gescheiterter Handel	The Fallen Chieftain	Meister Gadrin	Darkspear Training Grounds	https://youtu.be/bFHh3zuXwCs
3	Vol'jins Gleve	The Fallen Chieftain	Zen'tabra	Darkspear Training Grounds	https://youtu.be/hmgJq_LeaXw
4	Rache für Vol'jin	The Fallen Chieftain	Meister Gadrin	Darkspear Training Grounds	https://youtu.be/p0pziiFyvBo
5	Einen wahren Anführer ehren	The Fallen Chieftain	Meister Gadrin	Darkspear Training Grounds	https://youtu.be/QQLkIpOE45k
6	Vol'jin, Sohn von Sen'jin	The Fallen Chieftain	Meister Gadrin	The Golden Road	https://youtu.be/6dhdMR4Ir60
7	Atal'Dazar: Die Asche eines Kriegshäuptlings	The Fallen Chieftain	Prinzessin Talanji	Atal'Dazar Dungeon	https://youtu.be/12JHaSjPIM0
8	Ihr schuldet mir einen Geist	The Fallen Chieftain	Bwonsamdi	Atal'Dazar Dungeon	https://youtu.be/9UOlrR4af2A

Geister mit Euch <= for more info

Kommentar von Weedlord420

You don't need to kill any boss to complete this quest. However there is a bunch of elite mobs you need to get through if you're planning to do this by yourself. There are also a few skeleton npcs who can detect stealth. It's tricky but it's possible to get through with stealth, just be patient.

Edit: Apparently it requires you to kill Yazma now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Kommentar von Gabbyw5678

You don't need to kill any bosses or trash- (sorta)

I did this as a prot-paladin solo. Mounted up and ran straight for it. Bubbled and placed the urn. Then turned the quest/got the next before they could catch and kill me. Easy peasy- and a little bit cheesy. c:

EDIT: Also noticed something interesting- Turning in the quest rewards Zandalar Rep- The old one not that current Zandalari empire rep.

Kommentar von Aussiekirt

If you have already done this dungeon on mythic for the week you can use your mythic lockout like I did, when you enter the dungeon it is completely empty and you are still able to do the quest rather than having to do the whole dungeon or death run.

Kommentar von Tinkerer

You can totally do this solo, just go right from the start and run, then pop some immunity if you have it. The mobs are fairly slow and probably won't interrupt you.

Kommentar von gxiiiwow

Now seems to have a prereq to kill Yazma before you place the urn. I stealthed to the urn without killing any bosses and Bwonsamdi won't allow me to complete the quest.

Kommentar von SilverDragon234

Talanji is starting to like the Horde a bit more, since, like Jaina, she represents a future for the faction.

There should be a rivalry between Jaina and Talanji, since they're both princesses and both are very skilled in magic.

Kommentar von DrSlump

Tried the quest on M+. I was able to use the Urn but Bwonsamdi does not appear. I zoned out, went to normal mode, and cleared my way to him. The doodad was clickable again and Bwonsamdi appears after clicking it.

Kommentar von Mizergray

This cannot be completed on Mythic + difficulty.

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/179779

Kommentar von Shauolin

Once you have killed Yazma dont forget to run back and place the urn before you leave the dungeon...
May sound obvious but I saw 3 people leave straight after they got the urn.

Kommentar von Oceandust

8.0 Vol'jin Quest Chain

You pick up the first quest from Rokhan in The Great Seal. You will only see this quest pop up once you've completed the Zandalar für immer! achievement. This quest chain starts "The Fallen Chieftain" portion of the Geister mit Euch achievement. Note: You will not be able to start this chain if you are on any part of the Zandalari Troll Allied Race quest chain.

1. Zalazanes Rückkehr
2a. Gescheiterter Handel
2b. Vol'jins Gleve
3. Rache für Vol'jin
4. Einen wahren Anführer ehren
5. Vol'jin, Sohn von Sen'jin
6. Atal'Dazar: Die Asche eines Kriegshäuptlings
7. Ihr schuldet mir einen Geist

The next part of the chain you pick up from Bwonsamdi in the Necropolis in Nazmir. You must have the prior quest chain completed. This quest chain starts the "Justice For The Fallen" portion of the Geister mit Euch achievement.

8. Der verlorene Geist
9. Geisterruf
10. Gerechtigkeit für die Gefallenen
11. Die wahre Anführerin von Zandalar

8.1 Vol'jin Quest Chain

This quest chain requires you to have the 8.0 and 8.1 War Campaign completed (you can check your progress on the War Campaign by opening up your quest log and checking the top right hand corner for any leftover quests you haven't completed). Exalted with the Zandalari Empire as well as have the prior Vol'jin achievement Geister mit Euch.

12. Weisheit des Kriegshäuptlings
13. Störende Schemen
14. Zur Verheerten Küste
15. Wo er fiel
16. Nach Orgrimmar
17. Wo der Tod ihn erwartete
18. Die Lügen eines Loas
19. Der Loa des Todes
20a. Kerkermeister der Verdammten
20b. Eyir
21. Die Val'kyr konfrontieren
22. Geheimnisse des Todes

Kommentar von alpanhell

I hate quests like this!

You finish the dungeon and run as fast as you can for the urn and some moron kicks you from the group and you get ejected from the dungeon before you can get there. I wonder if Blizzard actually plays this game?

Kommentar von EnsoHeals

Just solo'd normal on a 393 Prot Paladin, specced for survival (heals and absorbs). Very run of the mill experience. So if you don't want to group with idiots (all the other players in the game) and enjoy a solo experience, this is pretty easy. Rezan 4:30 mins, other 3 bosses 3:30 mins each. Trash is fine, just position for fears, so you don't accidentally pull stuff. The only thing in the whole run that hurts at all is the Endboss AOE and that is entirely manageable. I pretty much ignored all other mechanics - so go mad, solo it and get your quest done. If you are a decent tank it's possibly soloable over 380 I guess. GO do it and find out :)

Kommentar von Steelhammer

I am doing this quest in 8.3, and different from I read here, I was able to complete the quest without killing any boss or mob. I did as a Survival Hunter, went to the quest spot inside the Dungeon (normal mode) using a mix of Camouflage and Feign Death, placed the urn and Bwonsamdi appeared, completed the quest and sent me to the next part. I hearthed out and went to do it.

Kommentar von Biermon

For fellow slowbies catching up, this has changed. On Version 8.3.0.33775, there's a lit totem outside the dungeon, near the waterfall on the north side of the complex. I clicked on it, and Ashes of the Warchief completed, giving me 750 Azerite power and 93g 60s.

Then Bwonsamdi appeared, clicked on him and he said "No, no, my little hero. Ya not be leavin' dat here" and gave me You Owe Me a Spirit.

Flew to the Necropolis, gave Bwonsamdi the urn, he said "I have waited some time for dis. Long overdue hee hee…wait a moment." Then I got the Achievement Fallen Chieftain banner, 23g 40s and…done.

No follow up quest from either Bwonsamdi or Talanji, either because I missed something along the way, or because at this point the Princess is now the Queen and no longer gives The Lost Spirit. I went to see her at the throne just in case, no joy. Moral of the story, don't wait over a year and a half to complete a quest.

Kommentar von Marconius6

You can actually just fly into the un-instanced version of Atal'Dazar and place the urn in the same place. No need to run the dungeon.

Kommentar von Tuskin38

Yeah, you don't need to queue for the dungeon, there is a path to the right of the normal entrance that leads into the dungeon area, you can just walk (or fly) your way to the totem.

Kommentar von Socrates1

Since it isn't mentioned here: the next quest in this storyline, Der verlorene Geist, is picked up in Zanchul in Zuldazar from Bwonsamdi. For some bizarre reason Blizzard completely forgot to link these two steps together.

Kommentar von Aerynsun8449

Doing this today, August 30, 2020, Blizzard either changed it, or it's been reported wrong all this time. So now, to complete this quest Atal'Dazar: Die Asche eines Kriegshäuptlings you don't have to fight the last boss. You don't even have to fight any boss. In fact, you don't have to enter the dungeon, you can fly right to the urn and complete the quest. Just take care of some normal mobs running around the area if they get close.

When you click on the urn Bwonsamdi appears and tells you, "No, no, no, my little hero. Ya not be leavin' dat here." That ends this quest and you get another quest Ihr schuldet mir einen Geist where he directs you to take the urn to The Necropolis.

At The Necropolis Bwonsamdi says;
"Ay, Vol'jin? Come on outta dat urn. Wait... wait, wait...no! Where be da spirit? Where be Vol'jin?:
"No! No! Impossible. Da boss ain't gonna like dis. Ol' Bwonsamdi not been losin' a spirit in.. oh, dis be bad."

That ends the first part of the achievement Geister mit Euch.

The next quest for the achievement is Der verlorene Geist that appears on your map in Zanshul, /way 45.20, 20.17 (the quest icon on your mini map, at least for me, kept disappearing when I got close. Took me a while to find it. The urn was there, but as I got close it was replaced by Bwonsamdi. All this quest wants you to do is speak with Princess Talanji in the Port of Zandalar. She's on the ship on the other side of the dock where your ship is sitting. I love what Talanji says, "If he can't keep track of his own spirits that is a "him" problem, not a "me" problem." Haha That ends that quest.

The next quest Talanji gives you is Geisterruf where you just have to observe Talanji's ritual. At the end of the ritual Talanji asks Vol'jin to reveal himself, which he does and you turn your quest into him.

Vol'jin then gives you the quest Gerechtigkeit für die Gefallenen where you bloody the Glaive of Vol'jin in G'huun's corpse. You get the glaive when you take the quest. G'huun's corpse is sitting outside the raid, /way 53.90, 64.09 you don't have to enter the raid. You turn this in at Dazar'alor to the Spirit of Vol'jin /way 49.87, 39.59.

The next quest Die wahre Anführerin von Zandalar is the final quest in the chain which Vol'jin gives you right after turning in Gerechtigkeit für die Gefallenen where he wants you to present the Glaive of Vol'jin with Talanji to the people of Zandalar. This begins a cut scene. After the cut scene you get the achievement Geister mit Euch.

From the time I took this quest, to the time I got the achievement took 15 minutes.

Kommentar von Aerynsun8449

I am slightly confused by all this though. How can Vol'jin's spirit be lost? He died, not at the hands or even the cause of G'huun, but from the Legion's demons. How would his spirit be lost now? From everything I've seen and read about G'huun, he doesn't care about spirits, only the blood of the living. Once they die, he doesn't have any control over them, that's Bwonsamdi's realm. Another case of the programmers not understanding the lore of wow, perhaps?

Bwonsamdi would have gotten Vol'jin's spirit back in Orgrimmar where he died. Vol'jin might be concerned over all the spirits G'huun has created from his blood lust, however. Would that be cause of his spirit becoming lost? Or was he referring to all the souls G'huun created being lost to Bwonsamdi? I guess that kind of makes sense. Except, Bwonsamdi didn't know where Vol'jin was. He "lost the spirit". Which is in itself a confusing part. If wasn't Vol'jin who was lost but all those other souls and Vol'jin had a plan to release them, why was it that they didn't get released when G'huun was killed in the raid and had to wait until we used Vol'jin's glaive on G'huun's corpse to get his blood on it and then present that to the citizens of Zandalar?

In play, it's great. In logic, it has a few holes in it.

And wowhead, you need to remove the dungeon aspect of your page. This doesn't need a dungeon run to do this quest. Nor does it need a dungeon or raid to do any part of the chain to get the achievement. It's in the location where the dungeon is, but it's "outside" of the dungeon itself.

Kommentar von Metoda

Updated video guide:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbyS6NWNZAU

you can skip all of the mobs on the mount and then use fade out abbility

Kommentar von Alanray64

No need to do the dungeon. Just turn around and proceed to 43.97, 38.44 and follow the path to the top and inside the zone. The mobs are all non elites so you can kill your way through or follow the path further along inside and drop down at the waterfall.

Kommentar von Jailyne

For some reason today (August 8, 2023) this quest shows as available in the Echo Isles. I came here because I couldn't locate the quest even after trying party sync with a lower level character. This was a fix that worked for other issues I had with ghost quests. Thankfully I found out through here that the quest is actually found in Zuldazar. Don't make my mistake and trust the random quest marker in Echo Isles.

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Atal'Dazar: Die Asche eines Kriegshäuptlings

Bringt Vol'jins Asche nach Atal'Dazar.

	Vol'jins Urne platziert (1)

Bereitgestellter Gegenstand:

	Vol'jins Urne (1)

Beschreibung

Ich hab mir in letzter Zeit Einiges von den Dunkelspeeren abgeguckt. Eigentlich hab ich sie schon im Stillen bewundert, seit ich 'n kleines Mädchen war. Vor allem Vol'jins Widerstand gegen Zuls erbarmungslose Befehle hat mich beeindruckt.

Vol'jin war 'n Kriegshäuptling der Horde, Häuptling der Dunkelspeere und 'n Vollbluttroll, wie es sonst nur wenige gibt.

Seine Asche sollte an einem Ort geehrt werd'n, der Königinnen und Königen würdig is'.

Nehmt die Asche und meinen Segen mit nach Atal'Dazar und ehrt Euren verstorbenen Kriegshäuptling, wie es seiner würdig is'.

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Ihr bekommt:

	Azerit

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Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(51516))

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