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Verbündete der Horde: Mag'har Vision der Zeit Höhlen der Zeit Echo von Gul'dan Echo von Kriegsfürstin Zaela Echo von Garrosh Höllschrei Alte Bande neu knüpfen Respekt für die Klans Bindungen, im Kampf geschmiedet Tyrannei des Lichts Die Unverderbten

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Kommentar von cloudbells

This quest does involve killing the Echo of Gul'Dan with 736k HP (not sure if this scales with ilvl). Do avoid his attacks or you will die. It is recommended to bring drums or anything that might help you (friends will be useful here if you aren't high enough ilevel). I am a 347 ilvl DH and he brought me low.

Leads to Echo von Kriegsfürstin Zaela.

Kommentar von Tyrygarn

Definitly not the easiest fight at the begining of the expansion :

Trick for caster : get to max range and you will dodge everything whithout too much issues.
If you don't decast the fear, you will still not take any damage if you are max range.
Also at max range, Gul'dan does not cast his filler, hence you avoid all direct unavoidable damage. He cannot move so you are safe.

Did this as a shadow priest and killed him without any problem after an attempt at mid range where I got wrecked.

Kommentar von ceejai

I just finished this at 336 ilvl as a Protection Warrior.

Spec-specific tips for Protection Warriors:
Keep up Ignore Pain, don't waste rage on Shield Block, as it's worthless in this fight. Make sure you take Impending Victory. Spell Reflect the Felfire Bolts, and try to Interrupt the Death Coils, although it's difficult because the cast is very, very fast.

Make sure you take Impending Victory for a huge heal every 30 seconds and Booming Voice for on-demand Rage generation, and Anger Management to bring your CDs back up faster. Storm Bolt is also useful as another interrupt option. I never used any major CDs during this fight outside of Avatar 3 or 4 times and Demoralizing Shout on CD for rage generation.

Useful information for all classes:
The Echo of Gul'dan is susceptible to a wide range of CC. I was able to stun him with Shockwave and Storm Bolt, as well as Fear him in place with Intimidating Shout. If you class has any CC or the option to talent into any, I highly - HIGHLY - reccomend that you do, especially if you're trying to tackle this early.

I had no chance in Arms and had to switch to Prot, so if your class has a tank spec, this would be the time to familiarize yourself with it if you aren't already. As for consumables, I used Drums, BfA +70 Haste food, and two leftover Potions of Prolonged Power.

Best of luck unlocking your Mag'har!

Kommentar von trenshod

Havoc DH sitting at ilvl 330 virtually impossible.

I'm seriously hoping that this is way harder than it was meant to be. Seems like this should be more about the story and bringing them into the horde than grind gear to get past what I thought would be a fun quest line. The other 2 races definitely weren't this hard and I have never had exceptionally good gear.

Was looking forward to leveling a new character so I could unlock the heritage armor.

Kommentar von GooseNinja

This was a nightmare as a 343 arms warrior. Used drums, pre-pot, flask and a rune. Expensive fight.

Kommentar von Sunnz

Next to impossible, still haven't gotten it down as a Arms warrior, any tips?

Kommentar von Grim32

So the biggest tip I have - start with all your burst, interrupt the bolts - not the fears. Use any stuns you have. You will probably as of the time of writing be able to do a second burst before he dies. As a 343 DH I had to be rather careful with my rotation to min-max it. I did it with approx 15% health left (109k max). The fear isn't an issue as generally he will cast the big attack in a cone after and the fear should put you in a different place than that.

Edit - Also probably overtuned given how the next fight is a LOT easier.

Kommentar von Aureliana

Took about 8 tries but managed as a 335 ret pally. Very important to avoid or interrupt Fel Efflux, which hits for about 40k damage. Felfire bolts also hit for about 7-8k so interrupt them when you can, shield, bubble, etc. Run away from his big green fire on the ground spell, easy to avoid.

Kommentar von RobECoyote

I had to totally cheese this fight as an ilvl 339 Unholy DK, as I died about 8 times or so trying it standard fashion.

Ended up staying completely out of range and sending the ghoul in again and again, slowly whittling him down with it. Boring as hell but only have to do it once, thank goodness.

Kommentar von Cymill

This has to be a joke, sure it's possible but *!@#ing hell Blizzard

Kommentar von tyfeels

So this fight is broken for me. he fears me with no fear cast... im so mcsad.

Kommentar von tyfeels

and also im at max cast range and i still get hit by all abilities.

Kommentar von Tiigah

Pretty straightforward as boomkin (340 ilvl). Stayed around 20yrd range and just sidestepped all abilities(the fel beam thingy and fel patches). Resto affinity allows you to never fall below 80% HP and only needed 3-4 times to stop for a heal (usually when unable to stop the death coil. Seems to be way more forgiving as a caster considering all the melee class comments about difficulty

Kommentar von Kurosu25

Easy fight as a dk. Karma for calling us dead class in this expansion i guess.

Kommentar von Mercato1988

Done this fight as an 336 Windwalker Monk , the clue is to use every single cooldown u have from start , once you come low on hp you incapacitate gul'dan , you heal up wait for your big cd's to come back and do it all over again until you defeat him! Goodluck!

Kommentar von Joxapox

I was able to do this as a 335 Fury warrior after a few tries.

I didn't use any pots or items, but I changed a bunch of talents around specifically for this fight. First of all, enable Warmode so you can have Spell Reflect. Talents for the most part are up to you but make sure you select Fresh Meat (lvl15), Impending Victory (lvl30), and Furious Charge (lvl60) for the extra self heals. Any and all ways to stop him from casting Felfire Bolt are important since those do a lot of damage and all his other spells are easily avoidable. Let Mortal Coils through cus they'll fear you and give you a chance to Charge in again to get that bonus 250% Bloodthirst heal.

I'm a Tauren so I was able to use Pummel, Intimidating Shout, Spell Reflect, and War Stomp to interrupt his Felfire Bolts and was able to self regularly so I ended up defeating him with most of my health by the end. I was even able to survive a few sloppy mistakes.

PS: You can also Heroic Leap out of cast range when he's casting bolts if you have no other interrupts available, but that was unreliable and ended up being more distracting than anything else

Kommentar von Vorselia

Did this as a 340 frost mage. First time, I died due to incoming damage. Second time, I stood at max range (41 yards), and he becomes real easy. Dodge the hellfire and fel beam mechanic, and interrupt as many of the death coils as possible, and he stands there doing nothing, as you out range his felfire bolt ability.

Kommentar von DonkeyKiin

After a tense long fight I managed to cut him down on my DH i usually only use havok but switched to vengence with no idea how to work it well haha. My i level was 327 at the time.

Kommentar von dendromecion

Just did this as a 325 fury warrior. died about 4-5 times before changing my talents about (which i had to fly to stonard to do as horde). Impending victory gave me more than enough healing to last the fight, and i one shot him while almost never going below 70%

Kommentar von SlackMartin

As a prot Warrior with 340ivl this is absolutely do/able. What I did was use spell reflection as much as possible at his bolts, interrupt his fear ability and stand behind him when he does his beam ability. And use stuns as much as it is off cooldowns.

Kommentar von Blackbeardswe

Arms Warrior

currently trying to figure out how to do this... not looking good.

(edit) spec second wind, if you get low on health just move away from him and dodge the stuff, very easy.

Kommentar von Phaeton

As a 333 BM Hunter, this wasn't a fight that I was going to win head on. My strat was to bring a spirit beast, pop beastial wrath, CD's etc, throw a HoT on the pet and back out of range. Bring your pet back occasionally if they get low, every 2 min to hit beast + CD's again and send the pet back in. Gul' Dan will occasionally fear the pet out of range and it will de-spawn, but you can quickly resummon and continue the fight.

Cheesy and not the quickest fight, but it works.

Kommentar von wutru

This ramped up difficulty has to be due to scaling. Wish Blizzard would've never implemented it, because it's causing more headaches than anything. It's ruining the entire game.

Kommentar von darkrunedk

This questline is so broken :-( - If you are forced to play a spec, that you don't want to play to complete a questline, the questline is either broken or just badly designed. No way I am going to grind rep to exalted on a new character, because of this. Both Garrosh and Gul'dan is hard to do as a melee class (playing arms). Zaela was however more reasonable (like a short Hymdal encounter).

I would actually argue, that Garrosh is worse than Gul'dan, as you could run out of Gul'dan's range and heal up and then attack him again (over and over till he get defeated).

Kommentar von stuntmahn

339 Arms, 330 weapon.

Two tries, first one to just check the fight. Second to kill him with a couple of talents shuffled.
Sudden Death - Storm Bolt - Rend - Second Wind - Warbreaker - Avatar - Anger Management

Gul'dan casts slowly, this is good. Avoid the two non-targeted casts (I don't remember names), use Pummel and Storm Bolt back to back on spellcasts (dont use willy-nilly) to create windows for Second Wind to kick in. Preferrably let him do one or two non-targets, then interrupt the next two casts. This should heal you a bit.
Die by the Sword if interrupts are down and you need to eat some shadow bolts, dont forget Rallying Cry if it gets close.

This setup was not close for me, it was actually very easy. Dont stress if you take some damage, you should be able to heal it up.

Kommentar von 1337llama

Gul'dan took me a few tries on my Outlaw Rogue, 339 ilvl.

Specific talents I used where Ghost Strike, Iron Stomach, Prey on the Weak, and Killing Spree.

Some tips:
Only interrupt or stun him when he casts Felfire Bolt. His other two attacks are easy to dodge.
If he casts his Fel Flux (I think it is called) then don't use Killing Spree as you will have a good chance of getting hit and killed.

When you get low on health, you don't have pots, and Crimson Vial is on cooldown, just blind him and wait out the full duration.
This will give you an opportunity to use Crimson Vial twice and give your other cooldowns time to recharge if needed.

Cloak of Shadows can prevent damage to you from his spells for a few seconds.
As he casts his fear spell, use Cloak of Shadows or Crimson Vial to mitigate the damage from Felfire Bolt.

Kommentar von nosoctane

336 Enhance Shaman. Took him down first try but not the easiest of fights by any means.
Just side step Fel Efflux every time. That's the most important bit. Then interrupt the others as much as possible.

Kommentar von swashy

soloed at 338 ilvl frost mage in 2nd try was easy just stand at max range and use silence anytime up it wil be all good

Kommentar von crombolim

Pretty easy as shaman enhancement. Interrupt Felfire Bolt and move to his back when he casts Fel Efflux. I used Earth Elemental but not even used Blood Lust.

Kommentar von Serblime

Echo von Gul'dan downed as a Frost DK very briefly specc'd as Blood - if it means anything I have an iLvL of 341 and 181K health.

I tried and tried and died and died 13 times as frost before looking around for tips, I then got smashed 3 times as unholy! I used blood as a last ditch effort and got him first go...

First things first;
- I have little to no eye hand coordination
- I tend to press any key that doesn't appear to be on cool down

How did I win;
- I avoided the green circles on the ground that occasionally appeared because anyone will tell you things like that are BAD! - running through him tends to get you out of their way.
- I let him fear me as it didn't seem to do much other than make me run around more than normal - the caveat here is try to watch his facing - if he is not facing you let the fear simply run it's course and then head back and pound on him - if he is facing you try to run to either side once the fear completes as he is casting a fel beam that will ruin your day.
- I interrupted the fel beam I mentioned above, whenever I could as it really stings, otherwise I moved aside (asphyxiate and mind freeze are good interrupts here).
- His fel bolt seemed really insignificant so I didn't worry about it.
- The only other ability I used regularly was death strike for a bit of a heal.

Ultimately avoid standing on green circles and interrupt or avoid green beams - a bit slow but as easy as - and I was full health at the end!

Hope this helps someone!

Kommentar von shakinbacon

09/18/18, this fight appears to not scale with ilvl, i just did it on a 352 havoc demon hunter, and it was a breeze. the fears were kind of annoying but nothing bad.

Kommentar von Doom5

Tried this twice as Havoc Demon hunter, just died. So changed to Vengeance/Tank spec, my health never dropped below 80%.
Just interrupt him and stun him whenever possible.

Go as tank if possible, a lot easier.

Kommentar von SlinkeeV

ilvl 345 retadin. Did this 1st go. Keep shield up as and when, interrupt his bolts, avoid the green on the floor and his beam and you should be ok. I just kept healing after he feared me and using Word of Glory as a quick filler where needed. Did not use bubble, pot, or Lay on Hands. Simples.

Kommentar von 2late

got the rep on mage but after going there I was having a bad run and went through the portal to get away thinking I could come right back, nope,got stuck in Warspear :P
since i had to fly all the back anyway I switched to my hunter (since doesn't have to be the one you got the rep on) and was able to do it with no problem. Standing max range helps a ton.

Kommentar von Bursi

Questline for Die Mag'har (available when Gerüstet zum Krieg completed and exalted at Die Eidgebundenen)

You get Verbündete Völker: Mag'har and Terrorwolf der Mag'har.

Kommentar von maladee

I died non-stop for an hour with my 341 Brew-monk with pots and drums and flags and food and bombs and several talent changes and every other dang thing, so I swapped over to my Disc priesty just to see if *maybe* she could start the quest chain even though she's not yet exalted. YESSSS! My health never went below 78%. Ugh...what a relief to be done with this finally. ><

Kommentar von TygerLily225

This guy might as well be impossible to do for non-ranged players. I have a 352 Havoc DH and I've gotten him down to half. His spells come far too fast and my primary interrupt and stun, metamorphosis, is reduced by over half. Eye beam normally does a LOT of damage; it doesn't hardly touch him. All of my moves do so little damage that I may as well be spanking him for as much effect as it gets.... and I normally solo elites up to 600 k HP, so he's not that much higher. I've tried changing to vengeance and the extra HP also do nothing; in fact, he kills you faster as a tank because the majority of the rotational moves aren't there.

Kommentar von Teaselestat

Just curious if your able to group up with others on this same quest or if it has to be done alone

Edit: 11/17/18, I just completed the this one and the next one in a group in case anyone else comes across this and wonders, echo of garrosh hellscream you have to do on your own

Kommentar von Banndayd

Completed as a 318 BM Hunter with my core hound. Set Mend Pet as my #2 key, kited at full range. After his beam, I'd run past casting other instant items. Never got below 50%, spent Exhilaration once. Of course I died twice before doing it this way.

Thanks to the others suggesting doing this from maximum range.

Kommentar von Hazzadragon

Turning on warmode and honor talents help.

(as a warrior at 360ivl i didnt find it too hard, but spell reflect was useful. I enjoyed the slight challenge of the questline).

Kommentar von Chonar

Ok, so everyone here is complaining about the fight.. I'm here for the lore.

...When exactly did Gul'dan own the Vision of Time? It looks like Gul'dan entered the Dark Portal to... go to... Outland? Draenor?
This doesn't make sense. The original Gul'dan came from Draenor through the Dark Portal and died in the Tomb of Sargeras. The new Gul'dan was forced through the Black Gate by a dying Archimonde. When did either ever travel back to Draenor?

It feels like they made a huge *!@#up. It was Garrosh who travelled to Draenor, not Gul'dan.

Kommentar von Muratsuki

If at any time you leave the unlock scenario, speak with Chief Telemancer Oculeth in Dazar'alor to get back.

Kommentar von Vorrath

I couldn't get him below 60% as a 334 frost DK, so I switched over to blood and it was significantly easier.

Kommentar von slythwolf

Soloed today as a 344 sub rogue. Spam Crimson Vial whenever it's up, get out of the green circles on the ground, and interrupt Death Coil.

For other melee classes, read "Crimson Vial" as "any self heals you have including stun-and-bandage if necessary" and I would expect that to work.

Kommentar von ghostmoose

Sorry to see so many people having trouble with this quest. I did it a bit ago on my Arcane Mage at around 340 ilvl. I had no issue, but I was sure to blink often to dodge the green circles and interrupt spells whenever possible.But I hope Blizz does something for the Melee classes because it shouldn't be a "challenge mode" fight, as you have already done the work to unlock the rep.

Kommentar von Thandraug

Did this on a Beastmaster Hunter. The fight wasn't too hard or too long. Just interrupt when you can and dodge his attacks. He went down on the first attempt!

Kommentar von Stoneboar

Not sure if anyone has had this issue. Got the quest to turn in to anachronos and that went without a hitch. Tried to get Echo of Guldan and it said I don
't have the required items with me.

What gives? Am I missing something? What am I supposed to have to get the quest?

Problem resolved. If you have gotten rid of the "Signet Ring of the Bronze Dragonflight" and have Azeroth Auto Pilot...DISABLE THE ADDON. It wasn't letting get the ring again.Which btw you need in your bag.

Kommentar von x5992

Was able to solo on a 370 ret pally. Just keep moving. Heal yourself. The constant fearing sucks though.

Kommentar von obbig

Lot's of info about the fight here but not much regarding travel, so here's the quickest I found after the removal of Dalaran lower portals, without using toys and other travel tools.
Vision der Zeit - Oculeth will send you to Caverns of Time. Take the Zuldazar portal to Silithus and fly to Caverns (will change with re-introduction of Caverns portal soon).
Echo von Gul'dan - Hearth to new Dalaran, take Orgrimmar portal, then talk to Magier von Thrallmar for portal to Blasted Lands.
Echo von Kriegsfürstin Zaela - Head to Shattered Landing (72.73 49.44) in Blasted Lands for portal to Orgrimmar then to Pawdon Village from portal room. Fly rest of way.
Echo von Garrosh Höllschrei - Hearth your way to Orgrimmar again (if both on cooldown can use Garrison or fly to Shrine in the Vale). Meet Anachronos outside gates of Org.
Alte Bande neu knüpfen - Hearth back to Oculeth in Zuldazar. The travel hassle is done, so now it's just either enjoy or work through the rest of the chain (your choice lol). It's almost over and you can claim your new race and mount soon!

Edit: - As per grosicky & Catkind comments below (thx for reminders, wish I'd remembered before doing the chain lol), for Echo von Gul'dan & Echo von Kriegsfürstin Zaela.
Note that the Magier von Thrallmar can bug sometimes for some people and they won't port you to Blasted Lands, however thirstycow has listed a workaround as per below:

For any characters that have a bugged Thrallmar mage (2/12 of my characters have the issue), here is the quickest alternative option:
1. Use the Undercity portal on top of the Zeppelin towers
2. Use the Hellfire Peninsula portal in Undercity (right next to you after step 1)
3. Go through Dark Portal into Blasted Lands

If you need to use this workaround please head to Magier von Thrallmar & throw an upvote on thirstycow for their work :)

Kommentar von Zknight

Just did this as an ilvl 353 Frost Death Knight. I held off doing this for a while since I got slaughtered so easily at the beginning of the xpac. I was able to do it pretty easily this time, no special tricks. It was just a whole lot easier. Last time I tried I was around ilvl 330, and that was in November I think. So, either ilvl makes a much bigger difference than I thought, or maybe it was nerfed slightly.

Kommentar von KasiaJSzopka

Use the portal in Ogramar to go to the caves. DO NOT follow the arrow, it will lead you outside. You need to go in to the cave and just fly down. At the bottom of the cave you will find a dragon and you can hand it in there :) good luck !

Kommentar von Rezzelyn

This quest is broken. From Zandalar, I take the portal to Orgrimmar only for it to say that I should "Take the portal from Western Earthshrine to Twilight Highlands." When I reach the Twilight Highlands there is nothing to do and the quest text switches to "go to the Dark Portal in Blasted Lands" and shows Gul'dan in Blasted Lands. Then when I port to Org it tells me to go back to Twilight Highlands again. If I end up in Shatt or anywhere else, the quest text reroutes me to Orgrimmar. Round and round we go.

To add to the frustration, you can't reach the Blasted Lands from Orgrimmar anymore (July 2020). A 2019 Wowhead article stated that Thrallmar Mage standing by the Shattrath port in Portal Room is supposed to send you there, but he doesn't offer that to me. So I guess I have to go to Shatt then fly aaaall the way to the Dark Portal and through it to Blasted Lands? This is really ridiculous. I've been a player since BC and this confuses even me, I can't imagine a new player reckoning this one out.

Kommentar von Himmel

Assination rogue, This takes time previous comments helped me. I was not able to party up with anyone to do this. They only saw me fighting but no one else. Use kick and garrote to interrupt spells don't worry about interrupting fear. Once your health starts getting low run up the hill I was usually between 74-81 yards and my health started coming back without him resetting. I did that 3 times before I beat him. Let your poisons work on him while your health regenerates. Hope this helps.

Kommentar von Karquile

If you're a Demon Hunter, spec Vengeance for this and bang on your Soul Fragment abilities while DPS'ing him down, and you'll wear him down in 4-5 minutes tops.

Kommentar von Karquile

If you need to leave the Sanctum, right click on your portrait and select "Leave Instance Group." You'll return to where you were in Durotar. You can return to Anachronos in the same spot to enter a new instance.

Kommentar von BlinkyDrakkin

This is only really relevant for the next few days, but if you're on this quest during the zombie invasion and find that the quest area is swarming with zombies, fly to the north part of the zone and speak to Zidormi. She's marked on your map with a speech bubble. She lets you switch to the pre-Warlords of Draenor version of the zone, where you should be able to do your quest in peace.

Kommentar von Milagros

Make sure you save either your Ruhestein, Dalaranruhestein, Umhang der Koordination/Umhang der Koordination, or Wappenrock der Wächter von Baradin for Echo von Garrosh Höllschrei or you will be stuck there waiting for your hearthstones CD's for at least 5 minutes.

Kommentar von Sneakypetey

If you abandon the quest, you need to return back to the Caverns of Time to pick the quest back up.

Kommentar von RedCat30

To get there, first, find the staircase down to the underground portal room. Note that this isn't the main portal room, but rather a second room beneath.

/way 54.8 89.8 staircase down to underground portal room

Inside the room, talk to Magier von Thrallmar and select "I must report to the Dark Portal".

Once teleported, interact with the golden spiral to spawn Echo von Gul'dan.

Kommentar von Bibix

Gul'dan scales to level 60, and is a pain to kill.

Kommentar von Samburjack

If you are here at this date, its because you realized there's no way to beat him without being a healer, and allies phase out.
But you can run from him and he cant move. Move up the hill a bit, and heal with whatever you have. Potions maybe, As a subtlety rogue i had to use crimson vial over the period of many minutes, sprint back into him and lay him thick with DoTs.

Whatever you do dont try to stealth, it'll reset him.

Also once i was finally able to get him down, the turn in target was invisible. I had to fly far enough away out of render and return for him to appear again.

Overall, this quest did not scale well with the crunch. They shouldn't have made the level of the quest scale up with you, or at least let someone help you kill him. He was an Golddragon level 60 with over 90k hp for me. Fears to make you run while he's casting fel bolts at you that you cant interrupt while you run in terror. You might get to block one occasionally though, make sure you do if you can.

Good luck.

Kommentar von Drakmin

Yeah, this thing is so beyond broken. Attacks come so fast that if I even try healing, I'm caught in the next attack and trying to interrupt the fear effect doesn't work because I interrupt and it promptly triggers again, runs me out of range and he heals back any damage I managed to do to him. Guess I'm giving up on mag'har until I level an alt.

Kommentar von claudiareese

Guardian Druid - Item level 150 - Pretty easy.

Kommentar von torin23

This is crazy. I'm a Ret Paladin. I can clear Torghast 7 or 8 depending on the week. But I can't clear something that was released for BfA? This makes no sense.

Kommentar von butters1280

So at this point Is Gul 'dan just not solo'able?

Kommentar von Spilledstars

As a Non Healer Class (Mage) I have to say the tricks for me were thus:

It seems to scale based on me, so, enchant all my gear.
Enchants: Prioritized Int or Haste, but my weapon I put one that procs extra damage in addition to a stat boost. Why haste? so channeled ticks for more damage and mana is higher. You probably have a fave 2nd stat, use that, but don't chintz your Ints.
One of my "enchants" was a gemmed wrist with a Krakenauge der Intelligenz. More int. Yummy.
Food buff: stamina
Flask.
I even used the Rocket Cluster for the Lunar Festival. It's not much health, but before I did this, I had a couple of cases of oooh, that was close.
Trinkets that provide extra attackers or damage. (in my case, fully leveled "Berührung der Leere" used when stuck close to him, and "Ruf der Wolfsmutter")
Don't let your shield down. All mage specs have a shiny armor bubble, use it.
MOVE OUT OF THE GREEN FIRE SPLATS priority over all other things. The fel beam scraping you isn't fun but it is not as bad can be handled with a potion and finishing the job.
Rearranged the easy keys on my bars so everything was instant casts or channels.
(edit to add) Let him fear me, I live to be ranged, I'm fine at range, it's the turning around for re targeting that's annoying. But I did use ice block for the time that meant I'd end up in green splats and fel beaming, and apparently the few moments of immunity were worth everything.

Kommentar von LurkerPatrol

I struggled with this on my mage that was Ilvl 170, but I managed it easily on my druid at ilvl 207. I used one heal spell out of nervousness and PTSD from the mage strugglebus but it was unnecessary. Just maintain your distance and DPS him down and you should have no problem. I barely lost any health.

If you're trying this on a mage, honestly, just restart the mission on a different and more robust character, preferably with a higher ilvl.

Kommentar von ahmedia

Yeh... FTS ...

DH at iLevel 137 ... not a hope in hell. Tried to attack from range and just got hit by his small green bolts.

CBA with these allied races if this is the rubbish that I have to go through...

There are much more fun ways to spend my Wednesday evening!

Kommentar von kalarnisx

This is definitely a broken quest. There were a few of the Allied Races for which I had not completed the questlines, and the Mag'har Orc was the last one. I was trying to do this on a level 60 Havoc DH (iLvl 156) and was never able to get Gul'dan below 90% health, even after 10 failed attempts (and about 45 frustrating minutes). I then switched over to a level 51 Guardian Druid (iLvl 77) and smoked him like a cheap cigar. I never popped Rasende Regeneration and downed him in under 3 minutes.

There is something fundamentally wrong with a quest if you can only succeed with a certain class or spec. I have also never figured out why some of the Allied Race quests (such as this one) scale to your current level, while others don't. The entire thing is very inconsistent and frustrating, to say the least. I sure wish that I'd found this page before I attempted him on my DH!

Kommentar von czeshirecat

(Shadowlands)
If you were like me and broke the questline years ago, the Echo Of Gul'Dan quest starts from the Dragon in the Caverns of time and not in Broken Lands. Dragon sends you to Broken Lands.
Wasted hours trying to find the beginning of this.

Kommentar von Aysnov

10/10 would die again. Though the fight might be slightly too easy for an experienced player. Blizzard should consider turning the lance into a 350° cone with .2s cast time, making the fear unkickable, and giving the boss a self-healing ability.

Kommentar von pcgneurotic

Just came to say I FINALLY kicked his arse today. 60 Fury Warrior, iL 207. omg, I have been waiting for this day for MONTHS. Ha!

Kommentar von Metoda

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requirements:

Gerüstet zum Krieg

exalted with Die Eidgebundenen

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3. Echo von Gul'dan - https://youtu.be/ui3AtNDlwWU
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1. Vision der Zeit - https://youtu.be/x-5fjPKrork
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2. Höhlen der Zeit - https://youtu.be/5vRVhR%^&tI
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3. Echo von Gul'dan - https://youtu.be/ui3AtNDlwWU
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4. Echo von Kriegsfürstin Zaela - https://youtu.be/8RX8hlohmaU
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5. Echo von Garrosh Höllschrei - https://youtu.be/U4bGIX2hnIQ
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6. Alte Bande neu knüpfen - https://youtu.be/kRVTJHKfIzs
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7. Respekt für die Klans - https://youtu.be/14FVs1JKKcs
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8. Bindungen, im Kampf geschmiedet - https://youtu.be/U6xd4UE0fmc
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9. Tyrannei des Lichts - https://youtu.be/dxawGFG4mpo
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10. Die Unverderbten - https://youtu.be/DDL6jDzdtak
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Kommentar von Neverdies

Shadowlands update: Gul'dan still scales to level but seems to be more okay to solo. On a level 70 Enhancement Shaman that isn't yet eligible for Heroics at 330 ilvl, I managed to beat his ass with the aid of my Earth Elemental in a roughly 1 minute 30 second fight (missing almost all of my interrupts on Death Bolt).

That said, the harder thing was figuring out how to get to the fight. The Thrallmar Mage ports you to the Stair of Destiny in Hellfire Peninsula and the Dark Portal won't let you through. I wound up taking the zeppelin to Grom'gol as suggested but I also read that it's potentially possible to teleport to UC and then to the Blasted Lands. Haven't tried it myself and it might be like the Thrallmar Mage teleport. All in all, just a pretty ^&*!house quest.

Kommentar von cmxxviii

If you're having trouble with downing the Echo of Gul'dan by yourself, even if there are several players burning him down, try partying-up with other players. It seems that the echo doesn't accumulate damage from all players cumulatively - that is, each player only sees their solo damage reflected on Gul'dan, unless they're actually in a group. If in a group, then your whole party's damage will register for everybody. I died numerous times with my 55 Lock in different specs. Watched 70 pallys, DH, and hunters die too, while working together to bring him down. After getting us all in a group, he went down fairly easily. Party "on," my dudes.

Kommentar von Zeror

Doing this quest on a low level character (minimum is level 40) makes this quest much easier then doing it as a high level character.

Kommentar von ThunderOkk

This quest is horse****! Are you serious? Feared every other second, target heals, hours of running aimlessly to do little damage. Get real and fix this quest.

Kommentar von Mytheros74

This is ridiculous (playing a frost mage here) ...why is this level of fight for unlocking an damn allied race?

Its ridiculous I feel like this should be dropping raid gear.

And where's the balance in their game design...the Mag'thar Orc is the only allied race I don't have....by far, without a second of thought, this fight is the most difficult of any fight for unlocking any of the other allied races.

Its *!@#$%ed.

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Echo von Gul'dan

Bezwingt das Echo von Gul'dan am Dunklen Portal in den Verwüsteten Landen.

	Echo von Gul'dan getötet (1)

Beschreibung

Um diesen Splitter an den Ort zu binden, zu dem Ihr wollt, müsst Ihr seiner Geschichte folgen. Der erste Ort, den wir aufsuchen werden, ist das Dunkle Portal in den Verwüsteten Landen. Dort benutzte Gul'dan ein Stück der Vision der Zeit, um zwischen den Realitäten hin- und herzureisen. Schließt Euch mir dort an, wenn Ihr bereit seid.

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Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(53354))

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