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Kommentar von athika

Teilt sich die Abklingzeit mit Transmutieren: Pyriumbarren, Transmutieren: Lebende Elemente, Transmutieren: Urwasser zu Urluft

Kommentar von Rikade

Am einfachsten erlernt man dieses Rezept wohl durch die Herstellung von Verjüngung des Alchemisten, welches man beim Alchemie-Lehrer erlernt.

Dafür benötigt man jeweils:
1 x Kristallphiole
1 x Teepflanze

Teepflanze sind meist sehr günstig im Aktionshaus zu finden.
Ich selbst habe durch 60 Herstellungen von Verjüngung des Alchemisten alle Rezepte aus Pandaria erlernt.

Transmutieren: Lebendiger Stahl teilt sich zudem die Abklingzeit mit folgenden Transmutationen:

Cataclysm

Wrath of the Lichking

Transmutieren: Lebende Elemente
Transmutieren: Pyriumbarren

Bruning Crusade

Classic

Transmutieren: Urerde zu Urwasser
Transmutieren: Urfeuer zu Urerde
Transmutieren: Urluft zu Urfeuer
Transmutieren: Urwasser zu Urluft
Transmutieren: Urerde zu Urleben
Transmutieren: Urfeuer zu Urmana
Transmutieren: Urleben zu Urerde
Transmutieren: Urmana zu Urfeuer
Transmutieren: Urschatten zu Urwasser
Transmutieren: Urwasser zu Urschatten

Transmutieren: Erde zu Leben
Transmutieren: Erde zu Wasser
Transmutieren: Feuer zu Erde
Transmutieren: Leben zu Erde
Transmutieren: Luft zu Feuer
Transmutieren: Untod zu Wasser
Transmutieren: Wasser zu Luft
Transmutieren: Wasser zu Untod

Kommentare

Kommentar von Smokinbull

any idea what lvl is required to learn that? is it possible to skill all the way with 85?

tanks

Kommentar von 867374

You can discover this recipe as early as 580 skill points. Personally, I got it somewhere between 580-585 skill.

Kommentar von mredig

In raw materials, this will take

12x Schwarzes Trilliumerz
12x Weißes Trilliumerz

OR if you transmute the Geistereisenbarren to Trilliumbarren

60x Geistereisenbarren

OR you can do that with access to a miner and smelt 120x Geistereisenerz to get the bars

Hopefully you have access to a miner!

Kommentar von ParRathorne

Just for clarity since the information here is incorrect, this recipe can be discovered at 560. It is red and gives you +5 alchemy if used at 560. To discover it, craft any of the potions/flasks that give you a chance of discovering alchemy 'patterns'. If you are lucky enough, the transmute sells for bucket-loads at the moment (6.5k on Al'Akir atm)... so get selling!

Kommentar von 1039905

Appears to share a cooldown with Transmute Pyrium Ore.

Kommentar von grevios

If you are a transmute master, this doesn't seem to proc any additional living steel until you hit 600.

I did this transmute 6 times prior to hitting 600 and got 0 procs, and have since done the transmute twice and got 2 procs. Might need others to confirm this, and will update as I get extra information.

EDIT: have since done it another 4 times and only had 1 further proc, so the proc rate definitely is not that high. Still haven't found anyone else who has had a proc prior to 600 skill, so I think the theory is still possible, but unlikely.

Kommentar von staramor

Transmute Living Steel Shares a cooldown with transmute Pyrium , Transmute Living Elements, Transmute Water to Air and others that I have seen reported elsewhere.

In Cata, the Transmute Truegold similarly shared a cooldown with those others but Truegold no longer triggers that cooldown group.

I am guessing that each Alchemist has a daily "Have I done a transmute or not" Boolean variable and "major" transmutations trigger that "on/off" switch. It’s conceivable that there would be more than one variable for different classes of spells.

It easier for me to get my head around it (semi-RP) if I don't think of the spell itself having a trigger, but the alchemist only having so much arcane power to focus on a type of activity each day.

Kommentar von Cleptor

Unlike the rumors elsewhere, you neither need to be level 90, nor do you need to have 600 alchemy skill for your transmutation expertise to work on this.

My alchemist is a transmutation master and this transmutation proc'd a few days ago when he was level 86 and the alchemy skill was still at 592. I got two Lebendiger Stahl out of one transmutation.

BTW: I learned this while making Entweihtes Öl so don't carelessly vendor or throw away your Stachelfisch if you happen to have any.

Kommentar von 138867

Got an x5 proc of this the other day... just about fell out of my chair. x2 proc is more common, but only about 1 out of 5 transmutes if you're lucky.

Kommentar von 125795

If you are a transmute master, this doesn't seem to proc any additional living steel until you hit 600. (...) I think the theory is still possible, but unlikely

RNG is RNG. thats not how things work.

It's entirely possible the proc has something to do with your skill level. Like with Mote of Harmony in MoP, they have a rough droprate of 10% when you are lvl85, and 11-12-13-14-15% droprate when you are lvl86-90. This was never uncovered pre-MoP, this difference in droprate based on our level. So I would say a proc rate based on profession skill is not that unlikely, and I will not dismiss it as a possibility yet. I guess time will show.

Kommentar von HolyShield

Doing this transmute (at 600 skill level) for two weeks now each day and never have any extra bar.

Around how much small could be the proc rate?

Kommentar von 716334

Can anyone tell me how the transmute cool-down resets now since patch 5.1 ? It used to reset at 0000 server time but that seems to have changed since the patch. There is a blue post from Blizzard saying that the USA/Oceanic servers have had daily resets consolidated to 1 set time but there's no equivalent post for EU servers. If it makes any difference, I'm on Terenas EU so its based on Paris time for us. I could wait up till the middle of the night and keep checking but if anyone has the info already I'd really appreciate knowing. Thanks.

Kommentar von ambrelle

How do i get transmute steel if I am already a transmute master before the patch?

I am a lelvel 560 alchemist. The teachers at SW and at Dal say I am maxed as a Zen master. This is so frustrating. Thanks so much, to anyone who can help!

Kommentar von rb4havoc

Blizzard apparently changed this so you can now discover recipes other than the ones in MoP. I just discovered Transmute: Primal Water to Shadow through it.

Kommentar von huspomike

Hi. Could someone with practical experience comment on this for me:

. . . Can an alchemist open a trade-window, and allow the non-alchemist to place 3 Trillium Bar + 3 Spirit of Harmony (soulbound items) into the window, and then transmute the bunch for somebody else?

. . . This would be very similar to the way that Rogues can open the trade window, then pick another player's locked item, or how Enchanters can sometimes enchant a wearable item through the trade window.

. . . . . . Thanks for considering this. Sorry for being naive.

Kommentar von 1170002

Can you make more than one living steel at once? Lets say you have the mats for 10 living steel, could you make 10 living steel at once, or only one at a time?

Kommentar von Arachnadactly

I just learnt the transmute the riddle of steel which uses 3 Trillium bars and 3 spirit of harmony.
I didnt know about that recipe and it hasnt been mentioned here. It saves half your trillium ore.

Kommentar von jordexciu

The cheapest way I found to unlock this is through Verjüngung des Alchemisten

Costs 1x Kristallphiole (80c)
and 2x Teepflanze (75s each on my server)

30g for 20 potions.

Kommentar von 1451937

Got this today on my lvl 80 alchemist at around 590-595 skill.

Kommentar von pakteri

This will make your life easier! Try it out.
To make this work; you have to run the script in the chat box (you copy-paste it and press enter) and it will create an icon that you can drag onto your bars.

Alchemy

Alchemischer Katalysator : /run PickupSpell(156587)
Alchemiegeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(175880)
Transmutieren: Lebendiger Stahl : /run PickupSpell(114780)

Blacksmithing

Echtstahlbarren : /run PickupSpell(171690)
Schmiedegeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(176090)
Ausgeglichener Trilliumbarren : /run PickupSpell(143255)
Donnerstahlbarren : /run PickupSpell(138646)

Enchanting

Temporaler Kristall : /run PickupSpell(169092)
Verzaubergeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(177043)

Engineering

Getriebefederteile : /run PickupSpell(169080)
Ingenieursgeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(177054)
Jards merkwürdige Energiequelle : /run PickupSpell(139176)

Inscription

Kriegsbemalung : /run PickupSpell(169081)
Inschriftengeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(177045)
Rolle der Weisheit : /run PickupSpell(112996)

Jewelcrafting

Taladitkristall : /run PickupSpell(170700)
Juwelenschliffgeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(176087)
Schlangenherz : /run PickupSpell(140050)

Leatherworking

Poliertes Leder : /run PickupSpell(171391)
Lederverarbeitungsgeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(176089)
Gehärteter prächtiger Balg : /run PickupSpell(142976)
Pracht des Leders : /run PickupSpell(140040)

Tailoring

Hexenzwirnstoff : /run PickupSpell(168835)
Schneidergeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(176058)
Himmlischer Stoff : /run PickupSpell(143011)
Kaiserliche Seide : /run PickupSpell(125557)

PS: You can do this for all your spells on your professions. All you gotta do is check the spell id from wowhead and use it.

Kommentar von CainePipe

Anyone know if this transmute can give you one of the BC transmute discoveries? It does share a cooldown with the all the other transmutes that do.

Kommentar von middles24

Something might be up with the BFA pre-patch or I'm extremely unlucky. I have made 300 rejuves, still no Transmute: Living Steel.

Kommentar von pat33

DON'T FORGET TO STUDY: Meister der Transmutation with SW/ORG Alchemy trainers to enable a chance for more transmutes on each daily!

Kommentar von JohnCrichton

After crafting more than 200 potions and only i got 2 recipes and no Living Steel i returned here and spotted the text above the info Difficulty: 75 75 75 which means u need 75 alchemy on Pandaria so be able to get it,i will test that today and will post again if it worked :)

Kommentar von Yama1291

I think you need at least 60 Pandaria Alchemy to be able to randomly learn this. The earliest skill level I got it at was 62.

Kommentar von addmydataz

After reading up on Transmute: Living Steel here on WoWhead, reading through all of the comments, & checking my Alchemy Profession Tab, something seems a bit off.

Several of the posters mention using Alchemist's Rejuvenation Potion for obtaining T:LS, burning through a pile of Green Tea Leaves & not obtaining it until " 'X' level in Pandarian Alchemy" or "637 potions", etc.

Reading the description for Alchemist's Rejuvenation reveals the following: "When making this potion, you have a chance to learn other Pandaria alchemy recipes." Checking under the heading for Transmute: Living Steel in my Unlearned Recipes tab, it noted how to get it: "Profession: Pandaria Alchemy. Discovery: Other Pandaria Alchemy Recipes."

I think the wording under the Rejuvenation potion listing has given the False Impression that you have to use a recipe that says "other Pandaria alchemy recipes" to obtain Transmute: Living Steel & others like Riddle of Steel, which has the same "other Pandaria alchemy recipes" notation. I tried discovering Transmute: Living Steel by making a large amount of Alchemist's Rejuvenation Potions with no luck, although I discovered several other recipes, until the discoveries seemed to slow/stop when that recipe went Grey. I switched to making potions/flasks/etc that would provide a skill up until level 60, at which point I went back to making the Rejuvenation Potions, to test what other's had said about a "certain skill level" to -discover- T:LS. I did small batches with no luck, leveled 2 points more, tried again, same, 2 more, same, until level 66. Still no T:LS recipe.

I decided to level Alchemy to 70 before trying again with the Alchemist's Rejuvenation Potion. I mixed 2 Master Mana Potions which were still Orange, hit Alchemy Level 68, & Transmute: Living Steel popped! Success!

Note, however, the Master Mana Potion description does NOT say "other Pandaria alchemy recipes". It says instead, "you have a chance to learn additional recipes."

I checked my Unlearned Recipes tab again. I had 4 recipes left to learn, 3 of them stating "other Pandaria alchemy recipes" in their how-to-obtain description. I decided to test acquiring them with a recipe that would provide a skill-up & had a "you have a chance to learn additional recipes" note ONLY.

I mixed Master Mana potions, leveling from AlcLvl70 to 73, at which point Elixir of Peace popped. I gained two more recipes at 74 & 75 and was awarded Zen Master Alchemy. I made 5 more Mana mixes, totaling 10 mixes/20 potions, before the Final Recipe popped, which was Riddle of Steel. This tells me ANY recipe can pop "Transmute: Living Steel", or any other recipe.

The cheapest recipe for discovering more recipes is probably Alchemist's Rejuvenation, but I would recommend gathering what materials you need to Level Alchemy NORMALLY, and simply level up your Profession by making items with a Skill-up all the way to Level 75. If you still don't have whatever recipe you need/want, THEN make a pile of whatever. I leveled from Lvl 1 to 75, Discovered Every Recipe (but one), and only had to make a handful more potions over Lvl 75 to acquire that last Recipe.

TLDR; Level Pandarian Alchemy NORMALLY, gaining Skill points all the way to 75. You'll discover almost every single Recipe with no extra effort, including Transmute: Living Steel. If you are still missing ANY recipes when you hit Zen Master, keep making any flavor potion you want until you discover them.

Kommentar von xLunacyx

I managed to learn it when hitting Pandaria Alchemy 60 making elixir of mirrors until green then master mana potions to 60-75.

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Transmutieren: Lebendiger Stahl

Transmutieren: Lebendiger Stahl

Wirken in 3 sek.	1 tag Abklingzeit

Tools:

Stein der Weisen

Reagenzien:

Trilliumbarren (6)

Beim Durchführen dieser Transmutation besteht eine Chance, dass Ihr neue Rezepte erlernt.

Die Anzahl der Rezepte, die Ihr erlernen könnt, hängt von Eurer Alchemiefähigkeitsstufe ab.

Transmutationen dieser Größenordnung können nur einmal am Tag durchgeführt werden.

Beruf: Alchemie von Pandaria
Entdeckung: Weitere Alchemierezepte aus Pandaria

Lebendiger Stahl
Gegenstandsstufe 30
Handwerksmaterial

Maximaler Stapel: 1000

Verkaufspreis: 36

Reagenzien

	Trilliumbarren (6)
	Trillium verhütten (6)
	Schwarzes Trilliumerz (12)
	Weißes Trilliumerz (12)
	Transmutieren: Trilliumbarren (6)
	Geistereisenbarren (60)
	Geistereisen verhütten (60)
	Geistereisenerz (120)
	Geistereisenerz herstellen (120)
	Geistereisenklumpen (1200)

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