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Kommentar von 7409

This is an excellent talent for tanking (and PvP), so long as you let people know you're using it. It's basically a free potion, though if your healers are not aware of when the buff is over, you'll be going down like a sweet muffin.

Kommentar von 7343

Not worth spending your talents point in Last stand if you are planning on getting a PVP build though.

Kommentar von 7686

I know of many tanks that have that skill and it does help in group pvp. It makes them last if they have a good healer in the group to keep others up while at the same time do damage.

Kommentar von 40551

I think this could appropriately be named an

"OH SHI-"

button.

Kommentar von 145511

Really fun to use if you are 1v1 back in arena, very nice boost to health, even though its better for PvE i think.

Kommentar von 171419

On consideration, it's a little odd that someone can make their "LAST. STAND." every eight minutes, but I guess warriors are just really, really emotional people.

Kommentar von 171419

Plus useful info: if WotLK-Alpha changes stay, LS cooldown is dropping to 6 minutes.

Please downrate this post into oblivion when/if this information becomes incorrect/trivial/outdated.

Kommentar von Ingolfur

When you use this, make sure you have more than 30% HP when it wears out, if you have less, it kills you, I have found that out through *Caugh* Exstensive testing *Caugh*.

Kommentar von 175895

This Ability has saved me countless times in 2v2 and I now consider is priceless, there is nothing like when you are fighting someone and they are about to down you and then BAM your right up to 30% and then you take them down.

I have a simple macro that I use for this that combo's it with my Battlemaster's Cruelty trinket (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34163)

/use Battlemaster's Cruelty
/use Last Stand

Not hard to make at all, even if you don't know anything about macro's

Also aside from PvP this has saved me a few repair bills in my PvE time.

For me its a simple must have talent, if you haven't tried it in PvP I highly recommend you do.

~~Edited to add a link to my build http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdAbqMhdioVZf0t~~

Kommentar von 171369

Ok i have a little trouble fully understanding this ability:
Lets presume we have 10k hp in all examples:

1) If i use it when i only have 2000 hp i get 3000 more (=5000). Lets say i wont get hurt at all and the buff expires, will i then go back to 2000? Thats how i figured it should be but HaKProduct's statement #1 says otherwise...

2) If i use it when i only have 2000 i get 3000 more (again 5000). If i then get hurt so i drop to 2500, do i go down to 2000 hp or to 1 single point of hp when it expires (Do i lose the bonus 500 only, or the whole "3000"?).

3) If i use it when i only have 2000 i get 3000 more (again 5000). If i then get hurt so i drop to 1500, do i stay at 1500 hp or go to 1 single point of hp when it expires (Do i lose nothing, cuz it went beyond the buff's bonus pool, or do i lose "3000"?).

4) If i use it at full hp i get 10+3k = 13k. If i get hurt down to
only 11k, do i drop down back to 10k or to 8k?

5) If i use it at full hp i get 10+3k = 13k. If i get hurt down to
only 11k, BUT then healed back to 12k, do i drop down back to 10k or to 9k?

Nothing of this has really been clarified to me. My assumption is that it does the "worse" things, it seems easier to understand. But I want facts, not just assumptions! Please explain thouroughly!

EIDT:
These examples are important to get a hold of because:
If it is the "better" ones that happen, then there is no need to heal a "Last Standing" warrior above his original max health, the max he had pre-LS. Because that health above his original max will be lost afterwards anyway...
If it is the "worse" ones that happen, heals are MORE important and you should always try to keep the warrior at his max hp (i mean the LS-max hp). The reason i think this is how it works, is because it makes the job, well not easier per se, but easier not having to watch out for unnecessary healing done by the healer (Just heal the crap out of the warrior!)

Kommentar von 451079

* 30% extra hp for 20seconds, 3minute cooldown.
* you gain this hp, and lose it(all of it) after 20seconds,
* if you had 1000hp, then used last stand to gain 300hp(1300hp), then dropped below 200hp the buff would finish with you at 1hp.
* if you were undead, and cast last stand before Cannibalize, then you would net more health.

It's quite obviously a last stand, you were about to die but give them one extra kick in the nuts,
and if you kill them and have no DOTs on you you can bandage your 1hp or cackle maniacally as you eat them ^_^(or some strudel :P)

Kommentar von kerrymayall

Tanking heroics, I've got this ability in a macro with Shield Wall. The health bonus from Last Stand gets me out of the danger zone, and the shield wall lets my healer easily top me up to full. It works well in heroics because you are never really going to require L.S or S.W more than once every 5 minutes, so there is less harm in blowing them both at once. A raid tank may want to keep them seperate for better cooldown management.

And yes it is important you let the healer know that you are being buffed by temporary health. It is a somewhat ignominious death when you die after a fight once this lapses. Somewhat funny too I guess.

Kommentar von 549001

I’m very confused. I’m *sure* it’s because *I’m* being dumb, but there seem to be a lot of conflicting signals here.

On the one hand, people talk about it temporarily increasing your maximum HP by 30%, *and then giving you 30% of your maximum health in new health!* For instance, if I had 10,000HP, and popped this, my maximum would be increased to 13,000HP… and then, completely seperately, it would *also* give me 3,000 health, thus (assuming I was at 1,000/10,000 before popping it) resulting in me being at 4,000/13,000HP.

Now, this is where I get confused: I see no reason why, when this expires, and you lose the extra 3,000-bonus-to-maximum-HP (thus, my maximum is now back to 10,000HP)… I see no reason why I should have any less than 4,000HP now. Right? Will I, or will I not, suddenly die when this expires? AFAICT, this expiring means nothing whatsoever except that your healers lose their nice extra buffer room.

This makes all those Last Stand / Survival Instincts macros I see completely bass-ackwards. Shouldn’t you instead be warning your healer *not* to top you off, because those 3,000HP at the top of your healthbar are going to disappear in a moment? (That is, let’s say I’m at 9,000/13,000HP… when the buff expires, I would be at 9,000/10,000HP; if the healer dropped a Greater Heal for 3,000HP, expecting to raise me from 9,000/13,000HP to 12,000/13,000HP, they’d *effectively* be raising me only to 10,000/10,000HP, a gain of 1,000 health for the cost of a Greater Heal. A huge waste, in other words.)

All that said, *if* I’m correct, here would be a much more accurate/pertinent macro:

#showtooltip
/cast Last Stand
/p LAST STAND: I’m gaining some extra buffer HP, but my maximum is going to drop in 19 seconds.
/in 16.5 /p Last Stand fading; my maximum is going to drop by 23% in 3 seconds. Don’t waste mana topping me off until it does.

(Macro assumes presence of the InDemand mod, which lets you do timed-announces like this. Quite indispensable.)

Kommentar von 739974

Last stand + Shield Wall + Berserker Rage (If not enraged) + Enraged regeneration = Win

A nice macro for last stand to help healers and or other party members

/Cast Last Stand
/Y LAST STAND ACTIVATED +30% MAX HEALTH

Kommentar von Antigroup

Some of the information here is misleading or simply scattered, so I'll try to make this one good summary.

When you use this, your max HP is increased by 30%, and you gain 30% of your old max HP. (Example: 10k max HP, you're at 1k, you use this, you are then at 4k/13k HP)

When it falls off, you lose 30% of your max HP, unless it would kill you, in which case you are left with 1 HP, and your max HP returns to normal.

This ability affects other abilities that are based on your max HP, such as Enraged Regeneration, Victory Rush, and Blood Craze.

It also has the same cooldown as Enraged Regeneration, so it would be good to use them together.

Kommentar von zaheer12a

Noticed today that it shares a CD with Anspornender Schrei. Basically this means this talent is one point wasted, since Rallying Cry gives that health buff not only to you, but everybody in range.

Kommentar von ahua

In 5.0.4, the shared CD with Anspornender Schrei has been removed.
However these skills can't be activated both at the same time.

Kommentar von myrkat

Protection Warrior's version of Druid/Bear's - or rather, Might of Ursoc is their version of Warrior/Prot's Letztes Gefecht. The main difference is, like many things, the warrior tank gets this MUCH earlier (level 38) as opposed to the bear tank getting theirs at 72.

Kommentar von potatolover5000

So,
since all these comments are outdated since forever I did some experimenting myself.
Right now (that is at the end of Legion) Last Stand will increase your maximum health on activation by 30% and heal you by 30% of your maximum health, regardless of your current health. However when it runs out (or is cancelled) it will just keep your percentage health.

Lets say you normally have 20000 maximum health and your health is currently 7500/20000.
Activating Last Stand will now increase your maximum health by 30% = 6000 and heal you for the same amount: 13500/26000.
Now you take some big hits (probably why you activated Last Stand in the first place) and you get reduced to 25% health: 6500/26000.
When now Last Stand runs out it keeps your percentage health, so you are still at 25% health. However this is 25% of your original health: 5000/20000.

So you lost 1500 when it ran out, but healed 6000 when you activated it, netting a total healing of 4500, i.e. 100%-25% of your 30% maximum health.

In general this means the lower your health is when Last Stand runs out, the more effective it is, but the amount of health you have when you activate it doesn't matter. Last Stand will never cost you health.

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Erhöht 15 sec lang die maximale Gesundheit um 30% und heilt Euch sofort um diesen Wert.

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