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Kommentar von 7067_

Seduction is one of the staple skills of an Affliction or Destruction based warlock that uses a Succubus. It's most common uses are for "Seduce Nukes," but Seduce is also very useful for interrupting spellcasts.

Seduce lasts on average 30 seconds in PvE, and suffers no diminishing returns. It is only usable on humanoid targets.

In PvP, Seduce can be used a maximum of three times on a target before the target becomes immune for 15 seconds from diminishing returns. Seduce will not last for more then 12 seconds in PvP, but can be broken via some PvP trinkets, Will of the Forsaken, and any other skills that will break a charm effect or dispel a magic effect.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Kangi##DELIM##

Kommentar von 6984

A very good crowd control, due to the fact that it's instant cast - very useful in PvP, and is one of the reasons for using a succumbus as a minion in the first place.

Kommentar von Delandel

Although seduce is on the same diminishing return as fear, something warlocks forget to take advantage of is seduce gives them a second CC to use simultaneously in PvP. You can seduce one target, fear another, and kill a third.

Kommentar von 15213

To the above posters: This spell IS NOT INSTANT CAST. It has a 1.5 second cast time, and it has always been that way.

Kommentar von lightsage

is there a mod that constantly casts seduction, i am tired of switching back and forth...

Kommentar von 9133

Consider the use of focus targeting to make seduction a lot easier. I've been trying to help someone so he can make use of this macro or one like it, but he's having trouble with it. I don't have a warlock, so maybe someone can help here:

/focus
/cleartarget
/cast Seduction

The idea is to make it so if you rightclick the macro icon it'll focus your current target. Clear target because you don't want to accidentally attack the same mob. (I've done that with my mage. lol) You can then target any other mob or a friendly, and when you leftclick or even press your keybind for this macro, it'll seduce your focus target.

If this macro doesn't work, maybe someone else can clear up the rest.

Kommentar von 115898

It's not mentioned here but it seems that seduce is a channeled spell.

Kommentar von 149073

One useful but semi-obvious point regarding "breaks on damage": seduction will not break if you change curses to a non-damaging curse. I.e., you can cast CoT, CoS, CoElem (etc) on a seduced target without worry. (Obviously does not apply to CoA.)

Kommentar von 186909

Probably one of my favorite things to do in 2's with my mage partner is cast this with a polymorph on the healer, and drop a piroblast/soul fire on wichever of the two we want. I usually immediately follow with a shadowfury/shadowburn and my partner (a 3 minute mage) with a PoM-Piro/Fireblast. Amazing Burst damage lots of fun. The reason i like this better than fear is because it keeps the target in place for the long cast so it doesn't go out of range.

Kommentar von 151016

Seduction is channeled after its 1.5 second cast time, meaning that the Succubus cannot move or perform any other actions while seducing. However, it DOES NOT lose casting time when the Succubus is attacked (I just tested this.) Any spell interrupts will still stop the casting.

With regards to the auto-cast behavior, the Succubus seems to follow this pattern (with auto-cast turned on, obviously):

-If there is one target on the "attack list" of the succubus (that is, either you have told it to attack only one target or only one target has attacked you if the succubus is in defensive stance, etc.,) it will attack the target normally without using seduction.

-If you set it to attack one target and then a second, it will cast Seduction on the FIRST target you set it to attack, and continue to cast if Seduction runs out or is broken until:
a) target 1 is immune because of DR's
b) target 1 is dead (in which case it will attack target 2) or
c) target 2 is dead, in which case it will continue to seduce target 1 until the current Seduction spell cast has run out or breaks, and then it will attack target 1

With three or more targets, things get very complicated very quickly, but in general, the Succubus will Seduce the second-to-last vulnerable mob it is ordered to attack. Personally, I find the AI to be extremely intelligent and very useful in PvE once you get used to it. In PvP, it is less useful because you will typically have much more changeable battle plans, but it is still helpful to take a bit of pressure off your hands. All in all, this is one of the best, most well-thought-out, and useful AI's on any auto-cast I have seen. Kudos to whoever at Blizzard did this one.

Kommentar von Bryrida

After WotLK this spell is instant cast if you put 3 points in 'Improved Succubus', But it also no longer increases the effectivness of Soothing Kiss or Lash of Pain anymore =/

Bad trade? In my opinion, yes. In most opinions, No.

Kommentar von 146819

This spell needs to be changed. It either needs to be an Instant-cast Channeled spell with a longer duration (15 seconds is OK for CC early on, but in things like Heroic Mode and Raids it's going to take you a bit more than 15 seconds to take out the other one), or a 1.5 second cast that ISN'T Channeled. Honestly, the Succubus is meant to be a melee DPS pet, not a "stand there and keep that mob from doing anything" pet.

Kommentar von Vylea

The good news is, that if you spec into the succubus, you can get an instant cast seduction as of 3.0.3 in addition to increasing its duration by a whopping 30%. For locks, this makes the pet a great spell interrupter, in addition to an underhanded control method.

Now, all they need to do is separate it from the DR of Fear since they apply separate effects!

Kommentar von 120816

With the release of Wrath of the Lich King, all grimoires where taken out of the game. You pet will now automatically learn their new ability and the new level of it.

Kommentar von 281219

I was wondering.. does drain mana break seduction? guess it would be useful againt some classes (disc priest for example). don't now too much about warlock yet so correct me if i'm wrong =)

Kommentar von 239783

Blizzard said that they are planning to make the Succubus an more useful pet in future patches.

Hopefully they make Seduce like Fear and only breaks after a certain damage treshold.

Seduce has very bad synergy with the new Conflagrate Glyph.

Kommentar von wuphonsreach

Here's the macro that I use on my warlock. If you have a focus target already defined, it will seduce that target. Otherwise it will make your current target the focus target and then seduce that target.

This allows you to re-seduce a mob, without having to change targets in the heat of battle.

#showtooltip Seduction
/clearfocus
/focus ;
/clearfocus
/petstay
/petfollow
/cast Seduction; Seduction

Kommentar von 520132

This spell was cast on you when you bought WoW. Blizzard's version is instant cast and unlimited duration.

Kommentar von Bryrida

On the Cataclysm Beta of WoWHead, the duration of Seduction is 30 seconds, I wonder if they're increasing the duration to make up for getting rid of Improved Succubus. And it also seems that Seduction only costs 100 mana in Cataclysm, Yay! Not nearly as much waiting for the Succubus' mana to go up to seduce. Seduction is also a 2 second cast spell now (1.5 before 4.0, with Improved Succubus filled it was 0.51 seconds).

Kommentar von Lutenantj

since it hasn't been mentioned yet, id like to say that whenever your succubus casts seduction, after the 1.5 second casting time and before the channeling pose, your succubus will shake her ass and then procede to slap it.

Kommentar von 646774

Goodsir, a little bit improved version, take a look
/focus
/clearfocus
/click MultiBarLeftButton9
/petattack
/petstay
/petfollow

MultiBarLeftButton9 is reference to second (below) macro in the actionbar. Here is the list of actionbars: Action_bar_button_names

second (pet spellcasts) macro:
#showtooltip
/cast Fire Shield
/cast ;Consume Shadows;Sacrifice
/cast ;;Devour Magic;

Kommentar von gemanoma

Love this spell :3

Kommentar von Bryrida

This spell (along with the Shivarra's Mesmerize) will receive a 30-second cooldown after patch 6.0 unfortunately, in an attempt to cut back on the amount of CC in the game.

At least they didn't remove it altogether like Hunter pets' CC I guess...

Kommentar von Dbase

Not to be confused with "Succubus: Seduction".

Which is learned at level 26.

Kommentar von 1064648

The funny thing is the Succubus can even cast this at level 20, which is when you can first summon her (rather than supposedly learning it at level 26). It's on some type of hidden auto cast when you get stunned or CCed; you just can't control it or turn it off until level 26. This has been the case for quite some time.

Kommentar von Strokelock

I still have this macro from waaay back when CC was astually used in dungeons. However, it can be used on almost any pet or player command:
/focus
/cast Seduction
/cast Seduction

First L-Click click makes a target a focus so you can keep on with your current target.
2nd L-Click casts Seduction
Now continue with your main target
when you see either your CC break or it just runs out, simply R-Click and it will re-Seduce the focus target.
This macro comes in handy for a lot of different spells.

Enjoy! (not that we CC anymore!)

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