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Kommentar von mixter

It's still the beta , so you shouldn't take my post too seriously.

We still don't know how it will increase with mastery (ex. 10 mastery = 1 %?)

but if it scales good , it could be optimal to stack mastery for this bonus and the 3rd special bonus for mastery - combat , which is increased special attack damage.

Possible Slow - Slow weapons in Cataclysm?

EDIT: You are probably right Sanitarium. But who knows how far mastery will scale , we will see.

Kommentar von 504398

I would like to agree.. in some way, but I would have to say no. If indeed it does scale properly, 10=1% as you said, or anywhere near that, that's quite a chance to have your offhand having an extra attack. If anything, I would say Blizz was thinking about this while they put Main Gauche in. I mean, if this procs your offhand weapon so many times, that would mean more Potency strikes, which means that you're gaining that much more energy to throw in more Sinisters! That may just be my way of seeing it, but it makes sense to me.

Kommentar von mak484

I have broken down all of the current masteries into two categories: unique, interesting masteries and flat bonus masteries.

Unique, interesting masteries:

Flat bonus masteries:

Why this mastery is interesting
See some of the posts above for a better description. This mastery is essentialy elemental overload for rogues. Main Gauche also works well with the combat talent Potency, making a nice synergy between the two in terms of energy restoration.

Kommentar von Hyperlynx

If this can proc Combat Potency it'll probably be more of an energy booster than a damage booster, in which case you'd still want a quick offhand. Though I suppose it'd be possible to use a slow weapon in the offhand, maybe even with a fast mainhand (backstab spec) to proc it even more, who knows?

Kommentar von Arthiaszero

Having 31 points in combat, this mastery gives 48,75% chances to get an extra offhand attack. Spending all your talent points in combat at lvl 79, increases the chances to 55%.

At lvl 84 you can get it to 60%

Sounds pretty nice to me :P

Kommentar von 435220

At Blizzcon 2010, they announced that the proc chance (they didn't mention scaling) is getting quadrupled. Pretty nice, if you ask me.

Kommentar von TCHJ3K

As far as I know, Main Gauche only procs off of white attacks, which goes completely against Combat preferring a slow high-damage mainhand. Additionally, the extra offhand attack doesn't proc Combat Potency, making it doubly useless. Not sure whether the extra attack is normalised or not, but in any event you've still got the normal offhand damage penalty to deal with.

Basically, the devs took the old Hack and Slash talent and thought "how can we make this completely and utterly worthless?"

Side note: Main Gauche is French for "left hand", and is a type of dagger carried by a swordfighter in his off-hand for parrying attacks.

Kommentar von 255077

ATM in 4.0.3a this mastery at base amount made a little less then 4% of my total dps.

Kommentar von 250654

Guess mastery is more of a assassination thing! This does seem a very odd bonus, it certainly doesn't seem to me that it's worth doing anything other than slow mh fast oh for it. The a significant damage bonus will be the application of deadly (and thus instant) poison from the strike rather than the blow itself , so I imagine it's probably making up a bit more of the dps than recount shows. Using a slow off hand would gimp your energy generation and thus mean you make less special attacks (which I assume have a chance of procing this effect) as well as dropping the amount of deadly poison you apply and so I very much doubt it could possibly be worth doing.

Use slow/fast and grumble about it, if you have a !@#$ load of mastery, spec assassination! Some serious + damage from poisons!

Kommentar von Zarly

This will be buffed in 4.0.6, possibly making it worthwhile for combat rogues.

Combat
Main Gauche (Mastery) now provides a chance to deal an attack for 75% of main-hand damage. This attack can trigger Combat Potency.

From http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2011384

Kommentar von Shinja

Even more buffed for the 4.0.6

Combat:
Main Gauche (Mastery) now provides a chance to deal an attack for 100% of main-hand damage. This attack can trigger Combat Potency.

Hail to the Sword spec return !

Kommentar von Donaldxr

When this ability procs, it plays the same sound effect as Backstab. The hits also show up as yellow damage.

Kommentar von 98879

Now that it triggers MH attacks and procs off MH attacks, the term "Main Gauche" is not at all accurate. The talent is much better though.

Kommentar von Lordplatypus

Main Gauche means left hand. FIGURE THAT OUT ALREADY.

Kommentar von Szween

Has been in the game forever.

Kommentar von asloversgo

The term main gauche (literally left hand in French) denotes an off-hand weapon, usually a dagger, that often featured a wider guard that would make it easier for the wielder to parry incoming blows. It was most often used in combination with a rapier, which is probably why Outlaw Rogues have the main gauche as a mastery ability, even though their artifact weapon doesn't feature one in the off-hand.

Kommentar von Hiddukel

Getting some odd behaviour with this in old raids. While kiting Shannox to the five locations for the Bucket List achievement in Firelands, aggroing and letting Eadric hit me in Trial of the Champion and while building up stacks on amalgamations in Dragon Soul, I stopped targeting all mobs to prevent attacks but in all instances the mobs died. On checking the amalgamation fight, recount listed main gauche as doing tons of damage despite evasion not being up and no attacks going on. Any ideas? No talents, items or soul binds appear to trigger a counter attack upon receiving damage that I can see unless I'm being very dense. Going to try one encounter with no gear to see if the problems persists.

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Eure Angriffe mit der Waffenhand haben eine Chance von 30%, einen Angriff mit Eurer Schildhand auszulösen, der (0.1% of Attack power) körperlichen Schaden verursacht.

(Procchance: 30%)

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