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Kommentar von 641700

Stupid idea for a talent imo. Cheat death and argent defender don't have drawbacks like this. Cataclysm is really messing up mages from what notes I've been reading. Being my first 80 ever, I was hoping I could go back to playing him after Cata came out but it seems like he'll still be my least favorite character to PvP on.

Kommentar von 496053

This is a great talent in my opinion, mages did need a better way of survivability Oh to often has my mage been one shot by a boss because the tank slips up a taunt or I crit one to many times, with this I'd have a second wind that would allow me to continue casting and hopefully get the boss down without anymore slip ups. Giving the mage a "dot" caused by this is fine with me, easily countered by ripetide, renew, or refresh, this won't even break a healers rhythm. Add in the fact that it's only a minute cooldown and that it can be iceblocked or shielded away this makes for a perfect addition to the fire mage arsenal.

Kommentar von Ickabob7734

A talent that rewards you for standing in the fire.

Kommentar von kawakazzi

The damage after "dying" from this talent can be negated by anything that can negate your Fireball.

Mage Ward
Ice Block (this removes the debuff entirely)
Mana Shield
Power Word: Shield / Barrier
Divine aegis
Fire protection pot

This talent also takes your resistances into account, BUT does not get a benefit from your spell penetration, so if you have mage armor on you can resist a good bit of damage from this.

While this talent is amazing for pvp, and trust me, I have had a lot of fun in BGs with this talent, it shines in PvE as well.

Ignore spores on Festergut
Ignore Rotface's explosion
Ignore the Orange slime on Professor Putrescide
Ignore your threat! (Just kidding, don't actually do this!)

If you are playing the Cata beta there are quite a few "Void zones" you can ignore (for the most part) with this talent as well, such as Corobus's Burrow (you will still get knocked back though)

Overall, a fantastic talent for both PvE and PvP and you should 100% take this talent.

Kommentar von ruvi12

Q: does the enemy get a honorable kill from you when you die from cauterize

Kommentar von Eldarias

So say a mage is in a duel and this talent procs. The mage then defeats his opponent just after cauterize saves his life. Will the mage die from Cauterize if he has no absorption effects?

Kommentar von Nachtfrostt

This is awesome talent. It is made of win and good. Thank you, Blizz, for making fire more distinctive in pvp.

Kommentar von 18074

No durability loss if you die from this, it counts as a suicide.

Kommentar von 110798

ice block as soon as u get debuff, free 40% health, awesome.

Kommentar von 741565

Cauterize is a medical treatment where one burn the skin with a heated instrument or caustic substance, usually to stop bleeding or prevent the wound from becoming infected.

Kommentar von 633171

Keep in mind that this is for fire mages only.

I do have problems seeing that this is useful for PVE... As a mage you NEED to be careful with aggro. In fact you don't want any aggro at all. And IF you do get aggro, tanks will usually taunt. This talent saves you from 1 death each time it procs, but I don't see this beeing useful in PVE since: In order for this talent to work you need to die, and you don't want to die in the first place, do you?

In PVP this is great though !

Kommentar von 268878

FYI Cauterize does not proc on fall damage.

Kommentar von lavadrop

Did Blizzard hotfixed the talent? Every single time it procs on my mage, I put up Mage Ward and 2 secs later I'm dead, the only solution being casting Glyphed Evocation.

Kommentar von delani

So, why is this talent pushed so high up on the 'it can really save your life' scale?

Yes, It will prevent you from dying, 1 time every minute, but it puts you at 40% hit, then slaps a Dot that deals 48% of your hitpoints to you (12% every 1.5 seconds, for 6 seconds, so 12% * 4 ticks = 48%)

So, unless your healers know exactly what your doing, your going to die anyways. Mage ward won't be able to prevent 8.1% of that damage (especially at higher values of stamina, thus increasing your hitpoints even higher) and unless your rocking the mage armor (which more fire mages don't use, as molten is higher DPS) your going to be soaking that pull 48% and dying anyways.

Yes, a priest could slap a shield on you, and you might survive (especially if you used mage ward as well) and they could heal you back up, but they have 6 seconds to do so, and if your ignoring fight mechanics to continue DPSing during a 1 shot mechanic, chances are pretty high your healers are busy avoiding that mechanic, or making sure the tank doesn't die.

especially with the fact that mana is now an issue, and some healers are running out of mana just keeping the main and off tank alive, forcing them to spend extra mana to keep a DPS class alive so that they may get a few seconds more DPS while ignoring fight mechanics and not eat dirt just doesn't seem like a good idea.

Yes, you can ice block out of the debuff, but then why don't you use ice block to ignore the mechanic to begin with, and save yourself 2 talent points which you can spend on a less situational talent.

Kommentar von 778349

It's also nice to negate effects that cancel from damage like polymorph and stuns ^ ^ very situational but it's saved me the embarrassment of walking around as a sheep

Kommentar von Frox

Ways to survive Cauterize:

Personal Abilities
Eisblock Removes the debuff.
Absorbs a bit of the dot damage.
Fluss des Beschwörers May be used in conjunction with the above to effectively absorb the whole dot or at least most of it.
Ausgebrannte Glyphe Channeling evocation will save your life with this glyph.

Consumables
Gesundheitsstein Now would be the best time to use a healthstone!
Mythischer Heiltrank Its like these were made for the situation.
Keep forgetting to use it? Not while you're on fire!

Anything that can heal you or absorb damage equal to 8% your maximum life can potentially save you from Cauterize's dot. Immunity effects remove the debuff totally. Cauterize will NOT save you from fall damage, I have not tested fatigue or drowning damage though. Bandages will break on cauterize damage and the dot ticks every 1.5 seconds.

Kommentar von 320261

This is the talent that convinced me to switch from frost. I really like the flavor of it -- when you have four mobs practicing acupuncture on you with spears and this procs, you are given no time to think. You can either lie down and consign to die or you can staunch your wounds with nothing but flaming awesome and then Eisblock to soothe the charred scraps of what were once your vital organs. Then you continue where you left off: setting everything around you on fire.

Learning how to use this skill was tough at first, but I now save myself around four corpse runs a session if I get careless or encounter adds.

Kommentar von 250447

Cauterize will also not save your life. But even if you die it saves you the repair bill. It actually is player dmg effect <3

+1UP or -1Rprbill.

Your take.

Kommentar von Talvias

This isn't very useful in pve.

Consider these scenarios

Tank pulls boss, you fireball, 35k crit pulls aggro, boss poops on you, you jump back to 40%, get healed, tank regains aggro, raid continues.
or
You stand in the fire too long, you jump back to 40%, get healed, raid continues.
or
Someone else's add blows up on you, you jump back to 40%, get healed, raid continues.

I'm definitely seeing some PvE use in this talent. Obviously the good raiders won't be needing this since they can avoid these careless mistakes, but I can easily see beginning raiders taking the step from heroics using this for a while, so they aren't dying, which might cause the raid to miss an enrage timer, or healers to go oom, or an add getting downed too slowly, all of which are the basis for wipes.

Kommentar von 302334

Incorrect. If you die from cauterize you receive repair bill as if you died to a PVE mob. This makes PVP actually cost you a lot of gold. But.. this is why you have gold, right?

Kommentar von Gimroth

This ability saved my mage from Mandokir's Decapitate once (specced 1/2). I noticed a 1.x million absorb at one point followed by the debuff of this talent.

Definitely worth taking just for that. Decapitating female chars is just ... no.

And thinking about it... Cauterizing a decapitation, it makes one morbidly curious...

Kommentar von azzgunther

60 second internal cooldown.

Kommentar von 855987

As per the 14-September-2012 hotfix:

Cauterize can now only absorb up to twice the mages's maximum health.

Player damage output isn't enough to cause this change to affect end-game PvP; it might affect cauterize-tanking against certain boss abilities (like an Hour of Twilight), depending on said health pool.

Kommentar von ibroadfo

This has changed significantly at some point since Mists launched; the damaging debuff doesn't now do enough damage on its own to kill you.

Kommentar von Furydeath

This does NOT work on some attack that are meant to kill you.

Kommentar von Shikamarana

Something is wrong... but in a good way. My max health is 522k. When Cauterize activates, the damaging debuff is only ticking for 17k, 4 times, which is 68k, which is less than 8% of my max hp... I've tested this several times, no buffs or anything that would affect this. Weird, but I'm not complaining.

Kommentar von nakript

For weak auras:

CD debuff ID: 87024
Damage overtime debuffs ID: 87023

Kommentar von Slushworks

This does not work on fall damage

Kommentar von astha

Hey.
Can see cauterize is a passive spell, tbh i find it annoying can i do somehing to get rid of it, im tired of it killing me :)

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