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Kommentar von 41109

Drops from Archimonde in Hyjal Summit (ilvl 151)

Kommentar von 31929

Sad to see so much stamina on it. The crit is nice though because most hunters in those instances are over 2000 AP and crit is more beneficial at that point. The reason the stamina makes me a sad panda is because warriors who are too lazy to make the crafted gun with stamina will roll against hunters. Even arguing that this is a bad ass bow and a waste on a warrior I bet anything within the first week or two you will see some stupid warrior carrying this around because he was too lazy to fork out 1000g for a craftable.

Kommentar von 8512

Interesting trend Blizzard has - a lot of the newer high-end ranged are heavy on Stam and have stats useful to non-hunter classes ( ie https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=32325 has dodge rating) looks like they are allowing for the fact that high-end guilds are going to have these weapons drop often enough to give them to tanks and rogues too.

Kommentar von 64836

Let me shed some light here. It is likely not the best hunter weapon known because they are working on T5 weapons and from what I have seen they are the best. Also, the slower the ranged weapon, the better because you get higher shot damage. Steady shot, aimed shot, arcane, ect. and I noticed Shaile saying that beast mastery requiers fast attack speed, and blizzard realized this and gave them a talent that when fully invested is like +15% atk speed. The reason some guns have stats for warriors rather then hunter is because 90% of the time warriors need to do ranged pulls. (And yes, alot of this is obvious but no one has said it but they ask questions about it.) P.S. for those interested in T5 weapons there are some nice screen shots I found here. http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=152.0

Kommentar von 64773

Good Point Rhaegar. and Skorne... slow does do higher dmg but BM is fast paced shooting. Steady shots and the others weaved in there.. mainly cause of Serpents Swiftness. =) Btw are those T5 weps in progress now....? The hunter bow looks awesome but with guilds like Nihilum finishing Hyjal and BT shouldn't they be working on like... T6 weps if they were planning a tier wep...?? If it is a T5 wep they're doing then it wont look to good with the hunter T6... not that it looks good anyways.... :P

Kommentar von 64773

Okay i was looking around the site and noticed 2 T5 pieces already. https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=30910 https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=30918.... just 2 examples... but wheres the hunter bow i saw???? lol. I havent seen it on atlasloot or anything.. if anyone finds it link the site plz =P

Kommentar von 64836

Yeah, on this your guess is as good as mine. but I would assume they have yet to drop. but looking at the stats on the other two I can only dream about how good the hunter bow will be. Also, If I had to guess I would say its atk speed was 3.00 xP

Kommentar von 36183

So, we got this absolutely wonderful bow with stunning Archimonde-like demonic looks, and we call it... Bristleblitz.

Honestly, what the flux did Blizz smoke when they came up with that name?

I mean, if it dropped in Gnomeregan, okay, fair enough. But a bow from Archimonde himself called a Bristleblitz Striker? Utterly rediculous!

Kommentar von 91238

A very nice bow, although i mainly like it for the looks, the stam can be usefull, but i think there isnt enough stats on it.

Kommentar von 100233

this weapon even tops Black Bow of The Betrayer, in some aspects, the stats and critical strike chance are better for hunters, although if your a hunter that wants mana regen try and shoot for BBoTB....if you can

This is a weapon hunters can call thiers.

Kommentar von 53307

You could see Archimonde's face on the grip of this bow.

Kommentar von 144828

The reason that bliz put stam and dodge on this gun ... is mainly because it was created for TANKING and Rogues and no one else! It has a 1.90 speed which is completly to quick for any kind of hunter to ever use ... with that speed there is no way in hell you could get of any kind of shot rotation.
Plz L2Hunter kthksbai

Kommentar von Naklesh

I see a lich or archimonde face on the grip of the bow

Kommentar von 548083

This bow is really an awesome bow. With my gear, i've reached to 681-1235 dmg with this weapon. And it also have a good improve of critical strike rating & +28 stamina, so its a combo. It really works for me, I highly reccomend it.

And, in my opinion, it has the best look in game.

Illidan

Kommentar von 571648

IIlidanStormrage said: This bow is really an awesome bow. With my gear, i've reached to 681-1235 dmg with this weapon. And it also have a good improve of critical strike rating & +28 stamina, so its a combo. It really works for me, I highly reccomend it.

And, in my opinion, it has the best look in game.

That's it? 681-1235?

I've reached to 1600-2800 with this bow+44.37% crit chance=TOTAL ALLY GENOCIDE

Nah, im joking. It was a really hard work getting this bow. Drops form Archimonde in the Battle of Mount Hyjal Instance. Low level, but it helps your gear with the +st. Nice DPS too. It has a 16% drop rate, so, you'll get it in a few runs.

This bow's desing is really beautiful. It has one the best designs in game. Its comparable with Thori'dal The Stars' Fury and with the Vengeful Gladiator's Longbow

Awesome and it has a huge DPS with Iceblade Arrow

Kommentar von Allakhazam

/grats tanks and rogues. perhaps a hunter, if you just /ginvited them and they're an alt in greens lol. hunter's can find better.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

From the two incredible epic bows at end game, this one I would let the survival hunters have. Their higher crit rate means they can keep those exposes on our target so all our damage is increased.

I am not saying that all hunter builds cannot use this weapon, buy my preference is that when it drops for us, it will probably go to our survival hunters before our BM hunters.

As a BM hunter I would hold out for the Black Bow of the Betrayer the mana regen is so much better with our speedy shots, and sine the survival hunters get mana back from thier thrill of the hunt talent, this has a lower usage for them. But again, any hunter build can use either of these bows.

Again, I stress that these weapons can be used by either spec, it will, ofcourse, come down to personal preference at the end of the day, what you can get, and what stats you prefer to have. The stats from either of these weapons shouldn't be sniffed at, but do think about weighing the gains of either to your build.

Edited, Nov 4th 2007 4:31am by Kralgore

Kommentar von Allakhazam

In-game Screenshot:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/images/screenshots/23905.jpg

Very Nice imo, worth getting, definitely a warrior Bow

Edited, Jun 26th 2007 4:18pm by wookieerama

Kommentar von Allakhazam

where does it drop?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

lol If this went to anybody but a hunter I'd shoot that raid leader. Nobody should get this until ALL hunters who can actually get in the raid have it.

Btw, I'm a Fury Warrior.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Archimonde last boss fo Hyjal

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Hunter item, period, end of story.

Only thing you can argue about this is, what spec gets to use this first. This bow would fit better MM and survival hunters because of the slow speed, which means we can shoot Multi/Arcane shot between Auto and Steady. A bit too slow in my opinion, but this with some +haste items = win.

BM hunters don't need this "so" badly, but yet it's the best non-legendary ranged weapon ingame. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't BM dps more about spamming Auto/Steady/Kill Command, where a faster weapon is better?

To all your pricks, no, THIS IS NOT A WARRIOR/ROGUE/SHAMAN/WHATEVER ITEM. Just because it has stamina, it doesn't mean it goes to melee classes first. Off a cliff, please. Go get the tanking weapon from Teron, but oh wait, you're still having problems in Karazhan and you spend your time by talking ^&*! in Thottbot.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/black_bow_betrayer.jpg
bow from illidan

Kommentar von Allakhazam

that is for the Tempest Keep only

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is the second highest DPS ranged weapon I can find thus far at 95.8 - I'm talking straight DPS here nothing else. The highest I've seen is Netherstrand Longbow of Tempest Keep, and that of course never leaves Tempest Keep. The Black Bow of the Betrayer from the Black Temple has the same DPS rating as the Bristleblitz Striker but it lacks the stamina. So yeah, this is a fantastic hunter weapon. Hopefully a hunter won't be passed over for this item just because the stats are a tad misleading.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

holy cheeze smokers
i got this bow and i used it
someone said this item is not an in-game item and that i am a hacker...
then he wanted to duel me
so i PWNED him in a duel
so then he sais i use stat changer and i am a hacker
then he makes a macro that does /laugh OVER AND OVER again
and pisses me off
then he sais he has a lvl 95...
so i say max lvl is 70
then he say hes a gm
so i say "dude gms are lvl 70 too..."
then he sais he is the owner of blizzard
so then i say "then why the hell do u not know a item in the game that acctually exists and thinks its fakE!"
so then he sais ohhh i forgot
then he wants to duel again (quuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrr)
so i PWN him again i had like 2380/3500 health and i keeled him
then he calls me a hacker again and follows me ALL OVER THE GAME untill i had to go
he $%^&ed up everything i did
i wuz grinding at everlook lake and whenever i targeted a monster he would atk it first....
WUT A QUEER i almost threw the computor wen he started tearing my nerves out
well anyways i wasted about 3 hours trying to lvl cuz of this #$%
so watch out for idiots like these plzzz

Kommentar von Thottbot

This would be crap for a warrior. You just saying that is like all the hunters who say the weapons with str. on their weapons. Try legion killer as a warrior item. 21 agilit and 30 stam. More stam and agility for Dps and the dodge chance and all the defencive thingy... I Hate all the people trying to act all important by saying it is for their class. Please don't even write in unless its helpful or you need help.

I have a 70 hunter and warrior. 56 mage working to 70.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You can not honestly say this is for warriors, or any other class for that matter. Highest DPS (non instance specific) in game, cmon don't tell me you're going to give priority to a class other than hunter. They benefit far more from this than anyone else.

I'm not saying NO one else should roll on this, but check with the hunters first? If they pass go crazy!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ok... if you are a mage, you rely on pure spell damage as your greatest asset. If you are a melee or ranged dps class, you rely on weapon damage as your greatest asset. Why would this go to any other class but a hunter, being that the hunter needs it?

A gun for tanking would definitely be the Gyro-Balanced Khorium Destroyer. This bow is for END GAME raids because stamina is a must on the last few instances (AoE, random debuffs, etc.) Even ranged attackers like hunters and casters need as much stamina as possible, balanced with damage to have a real chance of staying alive while doing damage.

As for certain spec hunters (marksmanship) receiving this bow before any other spec hunter... it's a weapon, not a trinket or stat... this is for the highest damage possible, and is useful for ANY hunter.

Also, a funny thing that some people don't realize is that BM hunters with 5 points in SS increase the speed of their default shot rotation and steady shot (%20 increase!), making the rotation as effective as a faster speed ranged weapon (could lead to higher damage than marksmanship in a long boss encounter!)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Hunter -> Warrior -> Rogue Like most bows and guns

Kommentar von Thottbot

I never understand these posts. Sure it'd be great if every class that can use ranged could buff their stats and get one for themselves.

That, however, is unrealistic. So let me ask all of you this when you're ekeing out every last stat in end game what is the greater benefit during a 10 minute fight: A tank or a rogue with ~20 less HP or your hunter doing ~3k more damage?

Wha-What? how am I assuming this you say? Gyro-balanced Khorium Destroyer gives +30 stamina when socketed out. I highly doubt an end game guild won't have an engineer that couldn't make this. Especially one that is going to Hyjal. Also this assumes the hunter has legionkiller. Odds are they don't and the impact to DPS will be even greater.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Yeah i agree with above post, i really dont think blizzard is going to make super high end ranged drops for tanks, created items like the khorium destroyer is different and tanks can go ahead and get them

Kommentar von Thottbot

a warr NEEDS this bow just as much as a hunter NEEDS a shield. idc if you NEED the extra stam or not, a hunter will always get more use from a ranged weapon then any other class.. end of story.

if a warr got this over a hunter, im sure all the hunters in the guild would quit. i would start throwing in some bs about how i need the melee weapons more than a warr.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Yes Yes Stamina is good for Warriors...Why dont you go and get

Warriors
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=32325/gewehr-des-besonnenen-wächters
Black Temple - Gorefiend Drop

WAY more Stamina and good Defence Rating

Rouges
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=29949/arkanitdampfpistole
The Eye - Al'ar Drop

Good amount of Agility and Hit rating, and For Hunters there are much better things

IF a Hunter has Legion Killer, and Another hunter has lets say...Wolfslayer Sniper Rifle, If your guild was smart they would let the Wolfslayer Sniper Rifle Hunter have the Bow...

Legionkiller is currently 2nd best...So switching to first wouldnt have much of a DPS increase as the Wolfslayer to this Bow...

The Amount of DPS a Hunter will be able to pump out of this thing will pretty much cover your butt in using Misdirection on you (Warriors) and for rouges...Your not going to use this in raiding anyways...And with Talents you already got a super high critical strike chance...

Over the Space of 10 Years of using this...
20K+ Damage for Rouges and Warriors...
3 Mil+ Damage for a Hunter...

HUNTERS TOP PRIORITY....

PERIOD

Kommentar von Thottbot

Archimonde drops that item , last boss of Hyjal Summit.

Do not argue about who will get that item if drops , DKP solves everything and in end game guilds always hunters have priority on ranged weapons only if they are not tanking ranged weapons.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Well I figured I'd post a screeny seeing as no one has gotten around to it. Grats hunters and enjoy.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7513/bow1bs0.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

This argueing about what class gets which wep is stupid. all melee class get sword,ax,dagger,and mace. all magic class get orb,staff,mace,book
hunters get bows/crossbows/guns. if a hunter hapens 2 get a good melee or a warrior/rouge gets a good ranged well good for you but hunters get 1st dibs on ranged wep and warrior/rouge get 1st dib on melee. so dont go takeing a wep some1 else needs if its more for their class.

Kommentar von Thottbot

They made thrown weaps for you warr/rogues.
Now let us hunters have our bows in piece, unless they give strength.

Kommentar von Thottbot

why do all these threads digress into a rank/counterrant on class-appropriatness... hunters ALWAYS get prio on ranged weapons, no exeptions, if its an upgrade.
no guild that got this drop, is ever going to employ lootrules that allow melee to take ranged weapons over hunters.
any moron should know that, even if hes barely able to down attumen.

arms wars dont do acceptable dps in pve, thus 2h is hunter prio. pve>pvp, thats what the raid is abt.

gawd, so many nabs, its like a house on fire, and rats are running out of every crack.

Kommentar von Thottbot

GIEF 2 TEH HUNTA

Kommentar von Thottbot

I am a level 70 warrior.... this weapon should go to hunters first... https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=32756/gyrobalancierter-khoriumzerstörer use this as a tanking ranged weapon with an enduring talasite or a solid star of elune or a thick dawnstone

Kommentar von Thottbot

Everyone knows range weapons (bows/crossbows) always go to hunters first. Why is there an argument every time a good range weapon comes out, it goes to hunters first, and thats it, theres no argument. Rogue/warriors can get it once the hunters already have it. Its like giving Aladin a burrito and giving a mexican guy a ghandi, everyone knows mexicans dont like ghandis...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Pwntcakes, do you really think its more likely someone is raiding MM than Survival at 70?

I'm currently survival and, in just SSC/TK gear have over 1k agi buffed. It's easy to get, believe me. With just those buffs and a feral druid in group, I'm pushing 43% crit (53% with master tactician procs) which makes keeping an EW buff up a matter of making sure I'm hitting some kind of button. EW + Imp Mark > TSA and Imp mark, since TSA is a party buff not raid. Not that every hunter in your guild should be SV, but having 1-2 on reserve is a nice raid buff and survival hunters properly geared put out dps comparable to that of a BM hunter (while simultaneously buffing them significantly).

That little rant aside, this bow (and the general trend toward slower bows in the late end-game content) is a boon for survival hunters. It lacks the agi of, say, the Barrel-Blade Longrifle or Steam-Pistol, but you can bet that the crit rating + the crit rating scope means survival hunters won't be against using it. Plus, the 3.0 speed allows a survival hunter to go on the 1:1.5 rotation, making it that much more useful. Not to mention crit is one of the defining stats of a survival hunter, and if it's not coming in the form of agility, it may as well be there in the form of a boatload of crit rating.

A BM hunter could definitely make use of it, especially considering the haste gear you see in ZA, BT and Hyjal. However, something like Barrel-Blade would be best for a BM hunter, just because of the speed concerns. If there's a survival hunter around he'll probably get more use of it than a BM hunter would and, should, IMO, get preference.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Wow i've just about had enough of the idiots in here who say every war/rogue has the right to need this even if theres a hunter in group. You guys just do not #$%^ing get it. When this drops and if a hunter gets out-rolled on it by some war or some @#$%, its not just "loosing a shiny toy" (as one of u idiots said before). That hunter who lost it will probably not see it drop again in his life. So let him have it ok? This is a point in the game where if you loose this roll being a hunter to a *!@#in warrior, its not just a "game" okay? you had to spend probably months to get into a guild like this and to raid and etc etc etc etc and then u get outrolled by a class who doesnt really need this? Hunters RIGHTFULLY deserver this No matter what spec they are and i dont wanna see any %^&* rogue or warrior with this. Period. End of the story.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i am a hunter, i am in a raiding guild, this dropped, warrior got it, /cry all over myself. warriors and rogues, if this drops and a hunter is in the group that has some crappy welfare bow/gun/crossbow, let them have it. u know what happens if u let us have it? we wont ninja your mele weapons! YAY!

Kommentar von Thottbot

PALLY WEAPON PERIOD

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have a hunter, id go crazy for this bow, the ONLY reason hunters get 1st priority for ranged weps is BECAUSE we will be ussing them more than other classes. and Im tierd of people saying 'hunter wep' and '%^&*!@#s' thats not cool, just cause a few people who dont know how to play their class makes us look bad, does not mean that every hunter is a '&*!@#$%'. Hell we are pretty well rounded and great DPSers IF and ONLY IF the class is played right, so while this bow is great for hunters, it can also be rolled on by other lasses, but IMO I thing hunters should get 1st prority because it is a ranged wep.

Does anyone agree with me?

Kommentar von Thottbot

I've got this in the test realm on my Bard, and when Smoke on the water procs, I can pass 2k dps even in 3/4 time.

Admittedly I lose some dps if there's a chord change, but you make it up in the sole easily - if not more so.

Also I can play this bos pisicatto

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