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Kommentar von salfredo

Kommentar von Brendanb25

Dropped today from the loot chest at the end of the Withered Army scenario in Shal'aran.

Kommentar von Voken94

Just got it from the big loot chest you get at the end of the withered scenario.

BUT ... I was specced as Ret because I wanted the Ashbringer skin, yet it seems to drop only some skins, no matter which spec you are in. (Not confirmed)

Also I cleared the whole thing (apart from the right side where you need 2 berserkers to enter)

It was in the big loot chest and not in one of the bonus chests.

Got a score of about 670 at the end of the withered scenario.

Screenshot is submitted incl. the chat-text with the drop of the item.

Kommentar von Chillie22

I got this today on my Protection Paladin in the Withered Army Scenario.

I had a score of around 580 and it dropped for me in the chest at the end.

Kommentar von Salfriel

This one is the ONLY reason i decided to level my paladin to 110 and go prot spec. a way to still make use of my ex-retri paladin and no be useless.

Kommentar von iamdamnangry

I have just finished the scenario with a score of 638.
The appearance was not unlocked for me, thus meaning this is probably not a guaranteed drop (as it was stated in other sources with the requirement of score of 600+).

I'm still awaiting ticket response from a GM, but most probably for this drop you'll also need to open and clear the room that requires 2 Withered Berserkers.

Kommentar von Symphonica35

Hello,

I just dropped it on real realm this morning.

So it was implemented and working.

I do not end the event my follower was killed on Etin but I have done just above 600 points, and get up 1 glimmering chest 4 chests.

The glimmering chest I brought was one after a closed locked door and it was not like the other it has a Blue aura, I don't know if it help or not. but it does work for me.

Good Luck in your farm.

Kommentar von Astelerin

I just completed the wither training scenario on my Protection paladin with a final score of 800 but still didn't get the spark and 50 wither alive at the end so naturally i went back and got a load of chests with these 50 withered so does anyone know the drop percentage chance as i thought this was insane and confirms its not a 100% drop chance

Kommentar von punjabimt

I just got this today. Finished the scenario with all the chests collected and a score of 609.

Kommentar von TegoZanduba

Wowhead user varenne has a big post here which can get you up to speed on ways to be successful in the Ausbildung der Verdorrtenarmee encounter.

Kommentar von IstezzSF

Just got this on LIVE servers

Kommentar von kellyislame

I just received Funken des gefallenen Exarchen from a chest after completing Ausbildung der Verdorrtenarmee. Screenshot over here. You can armory me to verify the feat of strength Verstecktes Potenzial over here.

My score was just over 500 and it was looted from the guaranteed chest at the end of the scenario. Both my talents and loot specialization were set to protection.

Kommentar von Azulokuala

Anyone got a good transmog to go with this skin ?

Kommentar von Genoce

People commenting in here that "I got this today": Could you give all possible information that you know?
- How much score did you have?
- How many bosses did you kill? (there's a total of 6 bosses of which 3 are hidden behind locked doors)
- How many withered did you have alive at the end? How many did you start the scenario with? How many did you have at max?
- Have you collected all chests that require sending Withered away?
- Any other variables that you think might in any way affect it.

Things like this will help everyone track down if there's some requirements in gaining it or if it's just completely random.

Checking the comments so far make it seem like there's some requirements, but even after reaching those it's still random - since all people who got it say that they got 500+ score. I haven't seen anyone saying they got it with lower than that, so it leads to a conclusion that there's a requirement of getting past a certain score to have a chance at getting it.

Just as a note: The Stormfist and Twisting Anima of Souls also come from the same place. I think they might all follow the same rules.

Kommentar von ShadowShuriken

I got it and here are the details of my run that may hopefully help others:

Final Score was just over 600 at 604.

I completed the scenario by talking to the NPC at the end and having him teleport me out - not by dying or running out of Withered.

I had 1 Withered left. Yes, just 1. I used the rest to open chests after clearing out the enemies.

I did NOT kill every boss. I killed them all except the spider boss named Phyx who was behind a locked door. I opened the door to get some more Withered in there but did not engage him.

The item itself dropped from the guaranteed chest, not any of the chests that use your Withered to teleport.

This was my 3rd run in total. I had 1 Mana Rager and my forces had the 25% health and 25% damage bonus, but there were many Withered-consuming chests left in my dungeon.

I started the run with 20 Withered. My maximum was somewhere in the high 30s. The Withered Chests I grabbed were: 2 Berserkers, the other Mana Rager, and the Fear Resistance for all forces. That's a cost of 35. I lost a few to Dro and the Elfbreaker.

I played as Protection and had my loot set to Protection, but I don't think this matters.

I'm uploading a picture; I think it's default appearance is a perfect match for the T17 (Blackrock Foundry tier) armor set in Normal Colors, especially for Draenei, although I'm a Tauren.

Kommentar von Chrona41

Just had it drop today from the main chest of the Withered Scenario.

What I had/completed:
- Started with 20 withered (2000x mana)
- 596 points (I didn't kill all the mobs)
- I had all 6 upgrades from the big chest looted from previous runs. (2x berserker, 2x mana-ragers, starcaller and spellseer.)
- I only had +25% health, Calming Whispers and Soothing Shard as minor upgrades from medium chest picked up in previous runs.
- Defeated all bosses (Lapillia, Dro, Phyx, Wraithlord, Elfbreaker, Psillych)
- "Finished" the scenario (I got all the way to the end and talked to Oculeth to port me out)
- When I finished, I had 40+ withered still in my group (I picked up the last 3 medium chest that I needed so over the course had 55+)

I did it in prot spec with an Ilvl of 845 (equipped) / 848 overall.

Posting just when I got it so waiting for armory to update but proof:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/turalyon/Chr%C3%B3na/achievement

Hope this helps!

Kommentar von Cailech

Looted on 14th Sept. from the guaranteed chest at the end of the Withered Army training.

I had a score of around 660. Cleared the entire scenario, not a single mob was left (except for a few that continue respawning at the end), and in this run I also collected every remaining treasure chest. I finished the scenario by talking to Oculeth at the end of the zone.

I did the scenario as Retribution and had my loot specialization set to Holy.

Kommentar von VenBombadil

Dropped it this morning on Defias (EU) from the main chest, after a 566 score on the withered scenario. Mog is ready and I am one happy space goat. (ss submitted, proof)

Kommentar von Desolaytore

Full clear, every chest opened. Final score of 644. No artifact skin dropped. :(

Kommentar von Ashreon

This is by far a guaranteed drop.

I have:
- All special mobs.
- All upgrades
- All the pets, the artifact power and toys.
Incidently this means I have no special chest left to loot and am hereby confirming it does not drop from those but it's somewhat silly to think it would as they are for wither upgrading nothing else.

- I have had scores above 600+ since my second go at the scenario.
- I have killed all bosses in there (including the 2x Zerk room).
- My max amount of Withered is 54+ alive at the end.

Good luck with the rng.

Kommentar von blueagewizard

I GOT IT TO DROP!

I did a full clear (every room and every mob) I have:

All special mobs.
All upgrades
All the pets, the artifact power and toys.
I had a score above 700+
My max amount of Withered was 57 alive at the end with 89% average health.

Kommentar von Soullfire

Thought I'd add my comment if it might help anyone out.

The main points of my run are:

Almost full clear, just skipped the room that requires 2 berserkers to open.
625 points and 49 withered left alive.
This was my first time leaving the tunnels via Oculeth at the end.
I did NOT have all of the upgrades for my withered. All I had going into this were the 2 berserkers, 1 25% damage increase and reduced chance that withered will run away.
I got the drop from the guaranteed chest at the end, NOT one of the chests I picked up in the tunnels.
This was also the first time I got a score greater than 500.

Hope this helps.

Kommentar von 1701640

600+ score everytime
every monster killed
every chest picked up
every small chest picked up
every boss killed
every corridor of that place searched
over 50 withered alive at the end of the run
did it 4 times
prot spec, prot loot spec
it still didn't drop for me.

Kommentar von Buhrian

652 Score
All Bosses Killed
All trash cleared (even cleared all the eggs which reward no points)
No chests left
52 Withered left
Scenario ended via Oculeth

No drop for me. Must just be entirely random unless it's related to a specific boss order or time.

My order was:

Lapillia > Leystalker Dro > Brood Guardian Phyx > Psillych > Furog the Elfbreaker > Volatile Wraithlord.

Sadly I never timed it. Maybe next run.

Kommentar von Watteratt

611 Score
All Bosses Killed
All trash cleared (including all eggs, spiders at the top of the central area on the webs and room that requires two Berserkers)
No chests left
29 Withered left
Ended through Oculeth
Ret Specced
Ret loot Specced

It dropped! Seems to me that its pretty random. But i'm thinking that killing all the bosses must be a requirement since people have had it drop without clearing the room with the Berserker requirement (which leaves behind mobs and potentially some withered). Score might play a part too though, though i've not seem anyone get it below 500.

Kommentar von Olieron

Dropped today with 628 score

Kommentar von xragusx

I just got it today with a mid to high 500 score.

I defeated all but two bosses and got owned by Elfbreaker. He either killed me, all of my withered or both. I honestly can't decide. Either way I ended with no withered and got ported to the start with only the guaranteed chest to loot. That's what it dropped from; the guaranteed chest with two bosses up and mid 500 score. Also, I was in ret spec.

So there ya go. Totally random drop non dependent on the bosses or any other chests.

Proof: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackhand/Mahvet/simple

Kommentar von Amidaman

Your score does not affect the droprate.
It either drops or it doesnt.

Kommentar von Tyrtun

I just got it in today's run.

Details:

- 716 score
- Full instance cleared (36:28m)
- 49 withered left (I started the run with 15, 1300 mana)
- Ended Through oculeth
- None of my withered died
- Protection spec and loot.

I don't think the drop rate is affected by the score because this is the 3rd time I've done 700+ points and I've read people who got it with 500+ and that was what I was doing before unlocking all perks. I also got one of the toys.

Don't give up! Keep trying and GL with drops!

Kommentar von Leorius

I just received this from the withered army training scenario.

My spec, and loot spec was set to retribution, I had a score of 590, I dont have all of the upgrades yet, and didnt kill all the bosses on this run. I did however kill the final boss and talked to oculeth to port me out at the end.

Kommentar von araknofobi

Got it today with a score of around 550, from the big chest you always get.

Kommentar von blackbirdxer0

after reading that some artifact appearances wont pop up until a certain artifact knowledge level is reached, can some confirm if this is the case with this one? thanks!

Kommentar von Stozzy

Got it today at 714 score... literally cleared the place clean, chests and all.

I also hit Knowlege 5 today, and had previously done scores of 650+ with no drop, so i'm thinking you need K5+ for hiddens to show up.

Kommentar von 975218

717 score, cleared everything. Started with 8 withered. No drop. Been doing quick runs before this, hitting 500-550 just clearing to the end. Hit AK 5 yesterday. I think it may just be random.

Kommentar von gwahiir

Just dropped for me from the chest. I don't get Artifact Knowlege 5 until later today, so can confirm it does not need 5.

I finished with a score of 716 and had at least 40 withered alive at the end. All chests and bosses have been collected.

Kommentar von ZIGMER

For those that already have the hidden appearance, Here's how to track your hidden artifact appearance color variants through achievement progress:

/run AddTrackedAchievement(11152) - Complete 30 dungeons using a hidden artifact appearance. (This achievement does not display correctly)
/run AddTrackedAchievement(11153) - Complete 200 world quests using a hidden artifact appearance.
/run AddTrackedAchievement(11154) - Kill 1,000 players using a hidden artifact appearance.

Check all your hidden artifact appearance progress using this script
/run local q,x,_,a,b = GetAchievementCriteriaInfo,0 for i=1,11 do _,_,_,a,b = q(11152,i) x=a end local _,_,_,c,d = q(11153,1) local _,_,_,e,f = q(11154,1) print("Dungeons: "..x.."/"..b) print("WQs: "..c.."/"..d) print("Kills: "..e.."/"..f)

Note: Completing any of these achievements will complete them for all your other specializations on that character, regardless of having unlocked the consumable items for your other specs.
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The correct achievement ID's were shared by hamza1306 on the WoW subreddit - source
The script was shared by MMOSimca on the same topic on WoW's subreddit - source

Kommentar von bronsta97

Dropped for me out of the big chest that you get when you finish the withered army world event (i didn't complete it all) i was doing it as a Ret pally an my loot specialisation was set to Retribution yet it dropped.

Kommentar von Guardiantay

Just got it dropped. Had 45 withered left, no other chests, cleared the entire area and grabbed all small chests forwards and back. AK 3.

Kommentar von Rippan

Ive done this 4 times now with
all special "adds" fully upgraded
all secret doors open
all pets
cleared every room (including the 2xberseker)
looted all chests (including the small)
+600 points every time
+50 withered left

I always start with 20 withered

Still no drop :(

Based on people talking about them getting it, and watching youtube videos about it just feel very random, but I havnt heared anyone getting it with under 400 points, so that should be a ground rule when you do the senario.

Kommentar von Deathforsale

I've done complete clears of WAT on my prot pally about 7 or 8 times now. Currently AK6. Scores of 600-700+ each time. Anywhere from 35-55 withered alive at the end. I've opened all chests that cost withered. Killed every boss. Had loot spec set to prot and ret on different occasions. Still no hidden arty appearance. I'm beginning to think Blizzard GM's are snickering behind my back.

Kommentar von Bokke

What's the lowest score people have gotten this appearance with?

Thanks!

Kommentar von PallyDog

I believe that you must have Oculeth complete the dungeon, not just get to the end. I completed, sent the withered home with a chest that was there but then was pulled out by by the First Arcanist and no Oculeth. I had 6 withered, and sent 5 with the chest. The scenario "ends" if you have too few withered.

Kommentar von Tooconfident

Full clear today, 724 points at finish with 44 withered. No drop. Still seems pretty random, but looking at the 24% drop rate here on wowhead, I guess just keep trying.

Kommentar von Wheeljack

Confirming that you do not have to be in protection-spec or have loot-spec set to protection.
Dropped for me today, opened chest in Retribution, loot specialization also set to Ret.

Did not do a full clear, ended with a score just above 500.

Loot:
- Ei der Fal'dorei
- Funken des gefallenen Exarchen
- 100x Uraltes Mana
- 735x Ordensressourcen
- 1x Arkanes Überbleibsel von Falanaar
- 4x Arkane Tafel von Falanaar
- iLvl 830 wrist (Gelenksschützer des Arkanverteidigers)

Kommentar von Ciscero

Just got this whilst in Prot Spec but set to Ret loot spec.

725 score.

Kommentar von maxflat

Just got mine today after running it every 3 days since release. Seems like it is probably just a random drop but here's what I did:

Did not open the first door that requires 2 berserkers. This could possibly be a trigger and now we know you can ignore that room and save some time.
Did not kill any of the crab things in the lower section of the circular area with the dead magic tree. Safe to ignore those guys too then.
Opened ever other door and killed every boss.
Ended by talking to Oculeth.
Ended with 59 withered, started with 20.
601 score.
Was prot but with loot set to holy, looks like if doesn't matter what the loot is set too.

Kommentar von druisu13

I have done this 8 times, each with 500 or more it was not until; the 8th time that it finally dropped, 56 Withered (I think none of them died) 611 points final score and with no more chests to loot (8th imagine). I BELIEVE IT IS PURE RANDOM (RNG). I did spoke with Oculleth at the end not the orb.

Screenshot in the section

Kommentar von lucyisme

I just completed the scenario with 53 withered, a score of 710, and an artifact knowledge of 10 to get nothing. My utter disappointment has led me to create an account after 6 years of lurking.

Kommentar von slikless

Just got it, I started with 12 Withered (900 Ancient Mana), cleared everything except the stuff behind the Berserker Door and the lower floor of the first round room, ended the run with just below 500 points (around 480 iirc), and with 40-45 Withered. Artifact Knowledge 9, 10 in research at time of drop.

Kommentar von carsten139

just finished the withered army training scenario with no more chests and no more mobs.

score: 710. 28 withered remaining. ran 2 rounds around the entire place to make sure i got everything.

still no hidden appearance drop, so its not guaranteed even with all chests gone :)

edit: artifact knowledge level 7

Kommentar von Rippan

I did the withered run more then 10 times before I got the drop yesterday. I had all the upgrades, killed all the bosses (including the "hidden doors") and got about 600-650 points everytime and 35-40 withereds.

The run I got the drop I did a quick run because of bad timing, just killed all bosses and ended up with 421 points and 22 withereds

The drop feels very random, but just keep killing everything and you should get it pretty soon.

Kommentar von paktu

Did NOT have it drop and i do NOT have the purple skin but I am able to use the hidden appearance for the PVP skin (yellow). I do have the hidden appearance for the Ashbringer and The Silver Hand and I did unlock the PVP skin for the hidden appearance. This is a new development or bug for 7.1 though since before 7.1 I was unable to do this.

Screenshots here http://imgur.com/gallery/SiIVV

Kommentar von waldropt

I received this last weekend on a horde alt, the very first time you run the scenario (i.e. the quest, not the daily). I managed to get to the boss that drops the key in the first main room, but lost all my withered trainees, so I can confirm you do not have to make it all the way through to receive this. I'd have to guess it's 100% RNG since my "main" paladin has run the place several times and made it much further without any luck.

Kommentar von JDunn1234

I'm starting to think there is some bull&*!@ convoluted prerequisite that enables this to drop from that annoying scenario. I haven't missed a single Training. I've been full clearing it for a while now, and nothing. Absolutely nothing. RNG is such bull%^&*.

Kommentar von Lightq8

been doing the withered army since the first week of legion launch . now with AK12 , fully clearing the scenario with (650-700) score each time , still no drop! .

a guildie with his holy as main spec and loot spec , he got it when he was AK5 with score 420!
this is not RNG , this is cursed R &*!@ing NG .

this is a confirmation for you that it is totally not related to AK nor score . just be a lucky purple paladin .

Kommentar von Hollay

Just got my today on my ilvl 863 as prot and loot speced for prot. i cleared EVERYTHING not a single mop remained and i have all the chests. i had 53 withered with an averge of 80% hp. I used 1.3k mana in the beginning aswell. i've done this 5-7 tiems now

Happy farming to all of u :)

Kommentar von Lightq8

I have got the holy hidden artifact .

I have been running the withered army scenario since the first week of Legion launch with no luck .
I have been fishing for the ret hidden artifact passed 2000 casts, also no luck .

I'm now assuming that it never drops if you got one of them (?) please some one can confirm ?

Kommentar von sopor30

Got it around run #10. Wasn't a full clear as I didn't go past the elf breaker oger. I had over 600 points. Was in prot spec and prot spec for loot also (doubt it matters though).

GL

Kommentar von Saltychip

been trying to get this everyday since I hit 110. Almost AK15 been trying since AK5. Got the hidden ret skin and hidden holy skin but haven't seen this yet. Been finishing runs ranging from 250 -625+ score. I think its totally random RNG you could probably get it with just 50 points I bet. Something like 1-3% chance probably.

Kommentar von WearyKatie

Adding my data to this but I think it's all just random. I've been getting 600+ score for weeks and haven't had it drop. Today it did. Dropped from the large chest at the end of the scenario in the reward stage with all of the standard loot.

-Score: 701
-Withered: 24 alive
-Full clear, all rooms, all bosses, and all trash except about half of the spider eggs in that one room (skipped the rest because they weren't increasing the score)
-All 5 and 10 withered chests collected previously
-Collected as many small treasure chests as I could though I'm sure I missed two or three.
-Completed the scenario by talking to Oculeth at the end.

Again, I don't think it matters. I think it just automatically appears in the chest at the end of the scenario regardless of other factors but the drop rate is really low. This wasn't my first full clear and I've had similar stats when finishing the scenario before and never got the drop. Just keep doing the scenario when it's available, it will drop eventually.

Kommentar von Aiyun

I had lost all hope for this one. Have 12 level 110 and 3 of them are doing Withered Training. This time I wanted 100% full clear and got the hidden arifact.

Started with 8 withered, 400 mana.
Took 45min 100% full clear everything in all rooms, bosses and adds.
Score, over 700 and ended with 40 withered.

AK level: 11
ilvl 854 prot
Rep: revered with nightfallen.

Kommentar von StormGryphon

Does obtaining this for the prot artifact require you to complete the scenario in prot spec, or to have your loot set to prot, or can you just go in as whatever?

Kommentar von Sacamanos

Has anyone got this with a score of 0 just by starting and ending it? Or is there a minimum score required?

Kommentar von iluhan08

Yesterday, I was doing Building an Army quest(which is an introduction for the Withered Training ) on my alt Paladin and got it. So here is some info about my run:
1) I killed only spider boss
2) I had 8 withered left
3) I had around 500 final score
4) I used 5 withered on a chest and spoke with Oculeth to finish the scenario.

Funny thing, that on my main blood dk I was doing this scenario for months and still did not get the skin.

Kommentar von purenrgy

This is a random drop from the main quest chest.

Your score has no bearing on your chances. You must have Artifact Knowledge Level 4 though.

If you start the quest (this means getting your starting amount of withered) then just end the quest you will get this loot box.

If you don't need rep or the toys I don't recommend wasting your time trying to clear the place and get a higher score. This is one of the most annoying skins to get. The other one is the Ret skin.... ugh.

Kommentar von Extort

Just got this on my 3rd attempt at the wither army scenario, and it was also the first time I got 20 wither and tried to full clear. I was Ret with Ret Loot spec and earned around 653 score.

Kommentar von valkryx

Finally got this after months of trying. Started with 8 withered ended with 45 with a score of 714. All rooms were cleared.

Kommentar von btspoils

Finally looted the hidden skin today. ._. \o/

Used 400 Ancient Mana to start the scenario
Opened every door
Killed every mob (except some of the mobs in Elfbreaker's room that seem to kill each other if you don't get there fast enough)
Looted every chest I could find
Final score 675
~35 Withered alive
Finished scenario using Oculeth's teleport

For almost every run since the start of the expansion until a few weeks ago I would get 425 points then run to the finish. Based on comment trend here I recently decided to at least get 550-650 points before completing the scenario, and I finally received the hidden skin on a complete 675 score run.

I've no way of knowing for sure, but based on the comments here and my own experience I believe that more points will increase the chance of the hidden skin dropping.

Believe me I know that's not what you guys wanted to read, sorry. :P

Kommentar von gcharantola

Don`t give up!
Got mine today (Jan 12th 2017) after a %$#& ton of withered missions done since legion start.

What have i done, you ask?
Three days ago i started full clearing it, with 715+ every time, took me 3 tries after i started to full clear to get my last hidden appearance.

2~3 months doing only 425 until exalted then just finishing with 0 points was what i was doing before it.

Good luck!
;)

Kommentar von Avereth

I can confirm the drop on 7.1.5 with score of 703 and 15 withered on 54% health.

I see a lot of people are reporting high score so maybe its a clue. 17th hidden apperance. Yey for me.

Kommentar von Deathisi

I don't this will ever drop for me! :(

Kommentar von Deathisi

Been doing this every week since pretty much launch, finally got this time around with a score of 580 something, only did bosses that you have to to open doors to proceed to end

Kommentar von GarinH

adding my 2 cents:

normally i do a run and stop after 500 points, and i hadn't been getting it.
after reading comments here i decided today to just do a full run and see how that goes.

so i did.
to make note, i have unlocked all chests, and withered upgrades within the training scenario.

went into every room, killed everything, killed all bosses, even sent up the webbing stairs in the main chamber and killed everything on the webbing.
killed all the spider eggs in the spider boss room (just before Elfbreaker).

i collected all withered along the way.
i let my withered go berserk on the never ending slew of spiders that come down the stairs in the Elfbreaker room.

killed the final spider and went to the end and got teleported back to the finish.
i ended the scenario with over 700 points (i think i was at 725ish).

the final chest finally gave me the shield.

Kommentar von LucyNorgana

Dropped for me yesterday (patch 7.1.5)

What I did:
- score over 600
- full clear run + cleared all rooms
- retribution loot spec BUT I had protection talents
- 50+ withered with me

Kommentar von Cowd

I'd like to add my 2 cents to this. No actual statistical data but some anecdotal evidence. Since Jan 1st I have been playing my paladin tank full time (switched from monk). I was familiar with running Withered training for rep and a hidden artifact already. After doing all the quest though I was already exalted with nightfallen. Reading the comments on here for the last 6 weeks I simply just started the training and then stopped it, getting scores of 0, a little rep and a tiny amount of AP.

Fast forward to today. I decided that in ~20 attempts of not getting this appearance I would go all in and just smash through the whole place. Ended with a score of 723 and 40 withered or so. Lo and behold in the chest there was the appearance at the end. It is worth noting that there is nothing factual here. But I did run many times without getting a high score and NOT get the appearance. Hopefully this helps

Kommentar von w3maniak

Adding my own finding:
Final score: 730 (full clear - including berserker bonus room, lower room in arcan'dor chamber, upper web in collapsed dome and everything on the lower floor + all eggs and spiderling sin hatchery)
Start: 8 withered, end: around 30-35. Grabbed all but two (the two that would cause Thalyssra to spam)
All mid and big chests looted beforehands
All small chests looted during the run
Specced prot, took around 25 minutes
First run over 600 for me (never bothered)

In conclusion, I think there is very likely to be some breakpoint to drastically increase the drop chance.

Kommentar von Nixwyl

Obligitory "I got this today." All possible information follows:

* Score: 720+ (Previous failed attemps were all at 500+)
* Bosses killed: All of them (Previous failed attempts ended at Furog the Elfbreaker)
* Withered alive at the end: 4 (I spoke with Chief Telemancer Oculeth to move to the next Stage of the Scenario, in order to open chests.)
* Withered started with: 12 (900 Ancient Mana)
* Withered at max: 44 (went back for 4 chests, see below)
* Chests collected in previous runs: Both Berserking Helm's
* Chests collected this run: Both Mana Ragers, Starcaller, Spellseer (Note: I opened these chests and used the items BEFORE opening the main chest. I doubt this matters though.)

Other:
* I have not progressed the Suramar questline past this point. (I really wanted the hidden appearance before doing much else.)
* Reputation with the Nightfallen is Honored (3512/12000), though I don't think this matters as previous failed attempts were also at Honored.

Kommentar von Tyowinn

I really like this hidden skin, but.. I am so tiiired of doing these Withered Army scenarios.. I am exalted with The Nightfallen, aka, I get nothing out of the reputation items, the gear I get from this is nothing I can use because I got way better. The only thing that doesn't make it completly useless to run, is the artifact power and the potential (I am going to farm this forever, aren't i?) hidden artifact skin for my paladin.

Edit: Finaly got it today! After getting this skin, it was totally worth all the farming! Don't give up, you'll get it eventually!
Little note: don't bother getting a higher score than 600, you can't increase your chance further than that. Best of luck to you all!

Kommentar von mforum

I'm not sure the validity of 700+ score required to get this. I killed every mob I could find, have previously opened all one time chests, opened all of the small chests, killed all monsters and bosses, finished with a score of 718, 47 withered, and I didn't get the appearance from the end. Maybe I was unlucky, but clearly this is not a guaranteed thing...

Kommentar von Excitable

I got this today. I started doing the training without killing anything(zero score) just to get the final chest, this I did about 5 times. Then I started farming after score(500+ in score), this I did 3 times and got it. I dont know if score have anything to do with this, but since the final chest drops more items the more score you have, it is possible that the apperance have a larger drop chance the more score you have. Good luck guys!

Kommentar von Dave7own

I had 726 score killed all bosses and ended with 39 withered and didn't get it... I am starting to believe its random regardless of what your score is.

Kommentar von Relkyn

Score: 729
Withered: 35
Killed all bosses.

I earned Nightfallen exalted on 11/05/16 for time line reference. I had been running this scenario since before then. I have been trying this scenario when ever it was available to get the spark. I've tried just finishing with a score of 0 for one entire month. I've tried finishing at 425+ the rest of the time. I've killed every boss multiple times. I only finished over 700+ once before though. So. Maybe score means nothing or maybe the higher the score the better the chance. I'm just reporting when I finally got the spark

Kommentar von Hemingray

Obtained this with a score of 575 (not full clear).

How is it this drops but I STILL haven't gotten all of the stupid toys? Thank you RNG...

Kommentar von Zalton

After weeks of just finishing with 0 points, I decided to do a full clear again today (732 points) and the appearance dropped.
Looks like it does influence the droprate looking at the other comments

Kommentar von FrozenThanatos

Just got this on a full run, got all treasures and killed all mobs, ended up with 721 score and talked to Oculeth.
After looting all the smaller chests, this was waiting for me on the main chest.

Kommentar von Mike21daisu

I hereby confirm that you can get this as a different spec. I had my loot set to retribution and I was in retribution spec. I killed every boss and got every treasure, had 59 whithered left before I started opening chests. Got 706 score in the end. Got this item from the main chest (the biggest one). I was revered with Nightfallen.

Kommentar von alpanhell

Bad news, it looks like you have to complete the Withered Training (run to completion) to get the hidden skin.

I have a DK, Paladin and a Monk. I'd been completing the Withered Training for months with no luck and wasn't able to get any of the 3 hidden skins (each class has one from withered training). So I figured, knowing Blizz, they wouldn't require you to run to completion that it would just be a rng thing on the chest. So for months I just went in on each toon and killed a few things and either left the withered behind, got killed or ended it by talking to Tharyssa. I did not get the hidden skins on any of the 3 doing it this way.

Then just for the heck of it I decided to run through the entire Withered Training again (complete it) on my DK. Sure enough I got the skin. So that week I ran it through on my Paladin and my Monk and got the skin too. So to me that's proof that you need to complete the training (for me that means run clear to the end, killing everything on the way a complete clear) to get the skins.

Since I got them all in the same week I'm guessing I hit some count that Blizz said they were going to add that made it so you would get the skins after so many losses. Whether my killing a few things counted as these losses who knows, that may be one way to boost up your losing counter.

Either way, real annoying that you have to clear.

Kommentar von westaiv

Just got mine today and here are a few details:

I started with the 400 mana option. Once inside, I was already in the protection spec and then I remembered to switch to protection loot specialization. I have had all the medium and big chests since a few weeks after I started the withered training back near launch when it was first available. In this particular run, I looted all the small chests that give bloods and mana that I could see. I killed every mob that I came across. I unlocked every door. I recruited every withered I saw.

In the end, I had over 35 withered and over 700 points. Before this, I tried clearing the first room only and the one big mob in the hallway 5 or 6 times. While I still needed rep back in the day, I would clear to 425 points. In total, I probably completed the withered training scenario around 30 times.

Kommentar von etherii

i obtained it on my second withered run, i didn't have any upgrades for them.
i finished with a score between 350 and 380, im not sure anymore.

Kommentar von gc1ceo

I got it on 8/13/07 on Kirin Tor.

I had a score somewhere between 450 and 500.

I had all the withered training upgrades and various chests done previous to farming for the skin.

I had about 30-35 withered and reached the end of it.

Kommentar von Nnymhadora

I really hate the fact that we have to grind this to get our hidden appearance (the holy pala one dropped for me and I even didnt notice it, and I dont play holy at all :( ) . So, I never really planned on grinding this because I really hate doing the withered army training. I would do it for Nightfallen daily, and for the reputation tablets. Sometimes I would just start it and immediately end it, and sometimes if I had a lot of mana I would go for the best score.

Flash forward 6 months (December 2016-July 2017), I stary playing wow after a pause and I decide to get this appearance. I passively farm 2k mana, go in when with 2 withered (1 berserker 1 mage), I do all the rooms except for the one that requires 2 berserkers. I end the run after an hour with 500+ score and 4 chests picked up, and I get the appearance but I also get the fox mount and 2-3 more specialized withered .

That was I would say a great run, 11/10 would do it again. Good luck to anyone who maybe still doesnt have this ! Cheers! :)

Kommentar von Celestri

...

There's some easy to get hidden appearances (some hunter spec can just go buy it for gold), and then there's this bullsh*t. BTW I did the disc priest hidden appearance (somewhat cumbersome) so I'm not afraid to do some research and spend the time. But this is reliant on RNG... ah well. Not gonna get it.

Kommentar von Rudy199

Why does hunter simply buy hidden appearance for low amount of gold from vendor but paladin has to rely on heavy rng and must wait to do the next one? What the hell

Kommentar von Rudy199

The great thing about this you need to farm this in withered scenario only if you want the purple color. The rest three you will get by doing legion dungeons/world quests and killings players in BG's if you have unlocked hiddden appearance to any of your other specializations. Huge relief

Kommentar von talliwalli

I got it in my first completion of the scenario. Did it with a 450+ score killing some of the bosses and ending up with like 9 withered alive.

Kommentar von MoarHeroisms

Sooooo does anyone else wonder how an ancient draenei relic wound up in an equally ancient Highborne chest?

Kommentar von rozu3

Decided to try intentionally setting my loot spec to retribution after seeing so many people getting it with ret spec, and after a lot of unsuccessful attempts with my loot spec set to prot. Got it on the first try with ret. Probably correlation, not causation, but something to think about...

Kommentar von Kylaeth

Dropped today, it wast he only run where i achieved 700+ score, no idea if it has any correlation but im happy the grind is over.

Kommentar von supermonteiro

Multiple clears scoring 630+, but no appearance for me yet -_-

Kommentar von thepapercut

Got it today on my 4th run, score was about 660 and not all the chests had been collected yet. Started with 8 withered and highest amount was 24. Had done a full clear and turned back for a medium and a large chest, finished at oculeth with 2 withered remaining. Did they increase the drop rate since BfA?

Kommentar von Zurvan

Got it today, 350 score, friendly reputation and 7 tries. Good luck everybody! <3

Kommentar von Canghai

Got it on first attempt with a score of about 540 and being revered.

Kommentar von MeatlessPage

Today I unlocked this with a score of about ~500 points, starting with only 8 Withered, and having set my loot settings to prot. Took me 6-7 tries.

I may just be echoing earlier comments, but seeing as no one appears to have gotten this with less than 500 points and not having their loot settings to prot, I think it's safe to assume that you must acquire at least 500 points (which is really easy at level 120), and remember to change your loot settings to prot.

Kommentar von tigerwolf1967

So cleared today, 700+ score, perfect run, killed everything (including all eggs and everything else), converted all whithered during run, started with 15, killed all bosses did not encounter a single big chests so no whithered lost there, finished with 52 whithered above 95% health, in prot spec with loot set to prot. No dang skin AGAIN! I have not seen any post that have said anything about artifact weapons, I did not have my artifact weapon equiped. Is that a requirement?

Kommentar von maximef1

Did it at level 50 today.
Was using protection and my loot spec was also protection
Did the whole scenario ignoring chests and optional bosses
Reached the end with a score of 500+

Can confirm it is not a guaranteed drop.

Kommentar von maximef1

Did 6 runs over 3 weeks on two of my paladin and it finally dropped with about 11 withered and a final score of 401.
Based on a comment I have seen there is three different ID for chests and the max one is awarded at score 400. So that's what I based myself on and I ended up getting the loot.
It remains guaranteed, but score 400 is pretty easy to get.

Kommentar von CrazyDruid28

I'm starting to lose hope on this. My runs lately have been primarily Withered centered wherein I finish with just under 50 withered. I haven't encountered any medium or large sized chests in the instance for quite some time. Just those small ones that provide you with gold but no loot at the end. My score is always around 700 when I finish and I have loot set to protection (I'm ret).

This RNG system is clearly not in my favour...

Edit: Finally dropped for me on Christmas. I used the same method as above

Kommentar von Phasha

Artifact hidden appearance unlockers for Paladins:

Holy: Verlorene Edikte des Behüters, easily obtained by killing demons for about 5min at Annihilan Pits (57,58), Krokunn, Argus. (Thanks for sharing this method, maximef1!)
Protection: Funken des gefallenen Exarchen, low-probability drop from the Withered army training scenario. (I got it as Ret with loot spec also Ret, 500+ score.)
Retribution: Herz der Verderbnis, rewarded from a long and gruesome quest that requires RNG-heavy low-probability-drop items.

Kommentar von Pearcey

I must have tried this 50 times now with no luck? Am I just being really unlucky?
Protection spec, full clears, there is nothing else I can do!

Kommentar von Legacys

For some reason it won't allow me to use the item. I can right click it, all I want, but nothing happens?

Edit: I had to equip the shield and be in Protection spec before it worked.

Kommentar von musicallittle1

Got today, score about 350 with 0 withered left (I did not clear/finish the instance.) Did one optional boss where you use the door key, started with 15 withered and sent 2 big (10) chests and 1 small (5) chest back. Lvl 60, was in ret, loot in ret, artifact in bag but not equipped. Honored rep with Nightfallen, in the middle of the campaign. Honestly I got this on accident, I forgot there were appearances in the scenario. I'm just commenting to show I didn't do anything special, didn't finish the area, and still got it.

Kommentar von Valxd

Just got it from my 2nd run. Scored 501 points. Basically ran around until I got bored. Prot spec - prot loot spec.

Kommentar von EigenTheory

Finally got it!

Retribution Spec
631 Score
Only the final box, no big boxes showed up during run

Kommentar von alexxy

Got on second run on main chest with > 400 points and 3 withered remaining.

Kommentar von Mercier91

If you have the hidden artifact equiped, or transmoged, when you cast Consecration, it will make the mace look like a holy/translucid lookalike for around 1.1 second

Kommentar von codyak1984

Finally got this today after about a month and a half of farming. I sent no treasure chests back, went in with 9 Withered, had 2 Berserkers and a caster, opened every room and killed every boss. The only thing I did different this time was not send any chests back, as I sent 1 or 2 large and/or reg chests back each of my last runs for the upgrades, since I had none going into this. I also opened the door at the northwest corner of the lower level on the floor that's basically a big roundabout. It had 3 recruitable Withereds in it and nothing else, but I somehow missed it on all my previous runs.

Kommentar von MrCrippels

To all the ones chasing hidden artifact weapon in Dragonflight:

To get the army training available you will need to do the achievment "Nightfallen But Not Forgotten" and the Army training quest will be the first quest to appear from Thalyssra. The achievment/questline took me about 1 hour to finish in Dragonflight.

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