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Kommentar von Unformedbobbie

May be linked the the Smoldering Phoenix Hatchling...

Kommentar von Rouzhianna

What if it's connected to Aschefeder?

Kommentar von koslain

Alright so here is where I am with this. Got 50 Ash Feathers, got 7 Smoldering Phoenix Ash and 20 Phoenix Stone. Griftah sells the item required to get the feathers, he also sells an item with a 2 hour timer known as crumbling-elemental-stone and weirdly a Lucky Tortollan Charm. After you use the Charm, the npc's nearby sell Scroll of Combustible Critters. In the Scalecracker Keep (waking shores) area there are Lava hatchlings that only take 1 damage from this scroll. The other things I am going to try is phoenix bosses in old raids and Rag. The thought process I have is I need to somehow imbue the items together with fire. I feel I need more Smoldering Ash first though.

Kommentar von Shashos

Can this be related to these items that were found prior to Dragonflight dropping?

Glänzende Phönixglut
Heilige Phönixasche
Inaktive Phönixasche
Phönixaschentalisman

Kommentar von Steamynuke

Maybe Lohenring is connected to this ?

Kommentar von MurdaurTTV

Anyone yet know what this is for?

Kommentar von AlexL1118

Maybe it's Schwarze Asche for DragonFlight?

Kommentar von accell

So, when I found it in my bags, it was put with other trophies (rep hand ins). Could also be a future rep hand in or just a left over from a rep that was removed.

Kommentar von Eagleny82

This is an actual question, not me being an ass, but... has anything actually useful ever come from Griftah?

Kommentar von Zermatt

ok, maybe it has something to do with the living flame mobs in old raids or VotI raid? I don't know, I only have 1 at the moment but you might need more, like 50 or something like that.

Kommentar von wowilovehead

I found its use. If you give it to any vendor you get 21 gold!

Kommentar von rObOu

You need 15 of those to get the Phoenix Wishwing battle pet.

Kommentar von Pwuebear

A good spot to farm these is outside the cave to Turboris, in The Slagmire. You can easily jump shards with the group finder with people that are doing the weekly quests in the area.

Kommentar von Zyrusha

Save 15 of these for the new Phoenix wishwing battle pet.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-secret-discovered-phoenix-wishwing-battle-pet-332187?webhook

Kommentar von jamerdean

This was just found out to be used to collect the pet Wishwing

Kommentar von JontePerry

I farmed my 15 by killing all the phoenixes before Chargath in Neltharus normal mode, I got 1-2 per run!

Kommentar von nikaetd14

The best spot for me was at The Slagmire, Waking Shores, Coordinates 32.35, 54.60. There were six phoenix on the ground and two that fly overhead to grind through. By the time you kill all eight, they start to respawn. The Qalashi patrols are close but never close enough to aggro. Took me about 90minutes to get 15x Smoldering Phoenix Ash. Also a great place to watch for Ash Feathers (for the secret battle pet) as well!

Kommentar von Yachemi

Highest mob density seems to be at
/way #2022 64, 29
There are plenty on top of the rock and even more in the surroundings.

I got the 15 in no time switching between two shards.

Kommentar von Sonyei

Finished farming this portion up in a little under 2 hours, using the Slagmire (Waking Shores) recommendation from various comments. I did not shard hop and I am on a high-pop server, so there was a touch of competition here and there.

I would highly recommend that you grab the Aschefederamulett from Gaunah before you drop in to farm these, as the Aschefeders you need (50 of) will spawn in the open world around you as you are farming for the Smoldering Phoenix Ash. I had 50 Ash feathers well before my 15 Smoldering Phoenix Ash, so it saved me the additional step of a separate farm in the long run.

After completing this double farm, take the collected items and your Phönixaschentalisman to Tarjin der Blinde and enjoy your new pet!

Kommentar von darkness2k

With the quest "Hands-Off Operation" you can use the dragon to fly over the Shas'ith portal and port to the "first" version of the Obsidian Citadel (e.g. when you were repairing the Oath Stone) which results in far less competition when hunting the Phoenix's at around 32.69, 54.50.

Kommentar von ChefeSousa

I believe the best way to farm this atm would be:

Wait for the WorldBoss in The Waking Shore to be up;

Go to Spots:

/way 64.95 29.13 At top of Rock
/way 56.16 35.57 At Shore

Rotate on these 2 spots, and realm hop, fair ammount of Phoenix's on both spots.

rinse and repeat.

Kommentar von xLunacyx

Glad I never sold these early on before we knew what it was for.

Kommentar von AlexisJay

This is one of the items you need to get Phönixwunschküken. I have a step by step video guide on how to get the pet here - https://youtu.be/a_XX5b7P3oY

How to get the pet:

Step 1: Before you start, make sure you have done the Worlds of Draenor campaign quest at least 5/9. You can check from this achievement Das war Spitze!. You can also confirm this by going to 52,40 in Spitzen von Arak and check if you can see Zektar. If you can see him, go to step 3. If not, go to step 2.

Step 2: Head over to coordinates 37,18 in the northern part of Spitzen von Arak and find Azik, who will give you the quest Die Schatten von Skettis. Keep doing the quest chain until you are at least five out of nine from the campaign quests, where at that point you will have Anzu give you the quest Kult der Rabensprecher. Go through the questline until you get to the quest Der Oberste Rabensprecher, which will take you to visit Zektar and you are now able to purchase items from him. Now that you know you can see Zektar, it’s time to start the grind!

Step 3: To purchase the Phönixaschentalisman from Zektar you need one Glänzende Phönixglut, 20 Inaktive Phönixasche and 10 Heilige Phönixasche.
Glänzende Phönixglut - You can only get this item when the Cataclysm Timewalking is active. Find a raid group for Die Feuerlande and defeat Alysrazar, who will drop the Glänzende Phönixglut for everyone in the raid group. No previous quests are needed to get the item.
Inaktive Phönixasche - This item drops from Versengender Elementar at Fireplume Ridge in the center of Der Krater von Un'Goro. You are going to need 20 of these and unfortunately, the drop rate for this item is pretty low. Ideally you join a group and everyone can loot each other’s mobs. The Versengender Elementar shares its spawns with Lebendiges Feuer, so make sure you kill both.
Heilige Phönixasche - Head back to Spitzen von Arak and look around for cookpots around the area, and you will find the Heilige Phönixasche inside of the cookpot. These have a respawn timer of between 15 to 30 minutes, so if you don’t really want to be flying around empty cookpots, just sit and wait for the ash to respawn in a cookpot and keep doing this until you have all 10.

Some coordinates for cookpots in the area:
/way #542 37.90 17.92 Small Pile of Ash
/way #542 42.08 15.86 Small Pile of Ash
/way #542 44.00 13.72 Small Pile of Ash
/way #542 44.55 23.34 Small Pile of Ash
/way #542 45.10 15.00 Small Pile of Ash
/way #542 52.06 31.35 Small Pile of Ash
/way #542 52.17 49.97 Small Pile of Ash
/way #542 52.20 49.82 Small Pile of Ash
/way #542 61.90 42.30 Small Pile of Ash
/way #542 68.72 44.49 Small Pile of Ash
/way #542 68.76 44.50 Small Pile of Ash

Step 4: Once you have the above items, head back to Zektar and purchase the Phönixaschentalisman. This is just one of the items you need for the pet.

Step 5: Next you need to collect 20 Aschefeder and 15 Schwelende Phönixasche from the Die Küste des Erwachens.
Aschefeder - To see these items, go to Gaunah and purchase Aschefederamulett. Using this item will give you a 1 hour buff enabling you to see Aschefeder on the ground close to Lavaschlüpfling and Lavaphönix.
Schwelende Phönixasche - These drop from Lavaschlüpfling and Lavaphönix in the Die Küste des Erwachens. Item is a bit of a rare drop so be ready to dedicate some time farming these.
Tip: Purchase the Aschefederamulett before you start farming the Smoldering Phoenix Ash and collect the Ash feathers at the same time.

Step 6: Once you finally have all the items, that is, 1 Phönixaschentalisman, 15 Schwelende Phönixasche and 20 Aschefeder, head over to Tarjin der Blinde all over to the west side of the Die Küste des Erwachens, coordinates 16,62, where he will have a quest called Geschichte des Phönix, which will give you the pet in exchange for the items you collected.

And gratz! You’ve got yourself the Phönixwunschküken pet!

Kommentar von gumbyman

A really good spot to farm most of these birds is here in Scalecraker Keep in The Waking Shore. Fairly quick spawn rate and easy to avoid all the elites if you are lower geared.

/way the waking shore 65, 29

Kommentar von nattylife

couple nice spots in scalecracker keep. a small cliff at 65,23 has a lot of phoenixs in one area. a big cliff at 64,29 also has a good group you can wrangle up and aoe too.

the lame part is the respawn is annoying and the fact that you are still in combat for like 2-3 secs after they die because of that stupid rebirth mechanic.

took a couple hours just hangin in scalecraker keep flying around killin phoenixs

Kommentar von msmoonkitty

Absolutely rubbish drop rate, there is no way this is as high as wowhead states at around 3-4%. I'm having to kill hundreds of these things to get one drop. It's been hours and I only have a small handful and this is with realm hopping like a crazy person.
I was prepared for the terribleness that was the inert ash, I was not prepared for this however.

Kommentar von Selenys

I've found the fastest way to farm these god-forsaken things is to run Neltharus Normal and kill the birds in the first two rooms off to the right on the way to the first boss. I got 4 ash in the first 4 runs, compared to the 1 ash killing birds outside in waking shores for 3-4 hours.

Kommentar von xLunacyx

Actually takes longer to farm than the inert phoenix ash, like that stuff took me in the ballpark of 2-3 hours of solo freefarming, but the smoldering ash in that same time I've gotten 4.

Kommentar von JeackTL

I got one of these off of Invoq in Zaralek Cavern. According to the "dropped by" list, Emberdusk also drops this. Drop rate is probably low.

Kommentar von Caliyope14

Neltharus is the way to go here, the first 2 rooms before boss! I got 2 on just my first run, did it alone on normal. Better drop rate than those Inert Phoenix Ash.....

Kommentar von Sarthorius

@Selenys' Neltharus farm is a great one to speed this one up. Just hop in Normal, incapacitate one of the 2 elites near entrance and deal with each one by one, if you can, then head right from there, there'll be some phoenix packs, some alone, some with some Qalashi mobs. I think 400+ ilvl is enough to deal with all with some ease.

Kommentar von ScorpioSymbol

30+ Clears of the opening 3 rooms in Neltharus yielded three ash drops. I wouldn't call it a "great" place by any means.

Kommentar von skyline33

Neltharus Normal, go in, go right towards boss and kill all birds between start and Chargath.
Each run took ~3 minutes, as a 437 prot paladin I was able to solo it in 2 pulls per run. Listed as a 4% drop chance, 18 birds per run

1: 3 Ash
2: 1 Ash
3: 1 Ash
4: 0 Ash
5: 0 Ash
6: 0 Ash
EDIT: New Day
7: 0 Ash
8: 1 Ash
9: 2 Ash
10: 1 Ash
11: 0 Ash
12: 0 Ash
13: 1 Ash
14: 0 Ash
15: 1 Ash
16: 0 Ash
17: 2 Ash
and 2 from world drops

Kommentar von catbud

Has anyone else been having trouble getting these since 10.1.5? I've killed over 60 phoenixes and gotten none.

Kommentar von CombatWombatt23

I got 7 of these in Neltharus, up to the beginning of the room with Lahar, before my "too many instances" restriction kicked in, so I guess 10 runs. There are two groups of 3 on perches right inside that door, plus a couple more attached to Hunter mobs, plus ~4 outside the room. So, about 7 drops out of 100-120 kills, if my math is right.

Edit: got 7 again, in the next round of max-allowed runs.

Kommentar von JeackTL

Just to add one more to the neltharus drop rate comments:

I was getting about 1 ash every other run, and killing 14 birds per run, so about 1 in 28, which is very close to the 4% currently reported by wowhead. Given these runs were taking me about 3 minutes each, and you need 15 total ash (so 30 runs), expect this to take about 1.5 hours, with added time for "too many instance" every few runs - during which time you can write an overly detailed wowhead comment :-).

I did this on my 420 ilvl Season 1 main (warlock) so this could be done a lot faster, but is doable for non-max gear players. My route was to do it in 5 pulls:

1) 2 wardens at entrance
2) turn right, kill 2 hunters + 1 bird
3) the next 2 packs of birds together - one straight ahead, and one in the archway to the right
walk into the room on the right (on the way to chargath)
4) 2 packs of birds - one set is perched on a pole right as you walk in, and the other is on the pack wall on the stairs sitting on a rock
5) In the same room, there are 2 birds in packs with other mobs. You can kill the birds, loot, and run out without killing the big guys

Kommentar von Valhalia

+1 on the Neltharus trick! Took me about 7 runs to get 10 ashes, only clearing the first couple packs headed right. Definitely the way to do it. Goodluck, Adventurers!

Kommentar von andrew1506

One of the worst drops ever, two days in two hours at a time, 3 drops! found a spot north The Slagmire as quoted four ish birds but the drop is terrible i thought this game was meant to be fun!

Kommentar von fendred

Neltharus is 100% the way to do this. The Gezähmter Phönix inside the dungeon have the same drop chance (4%) as ones in the open world, but the density is much higher, and you can reset the instance to respawn them.
RNG is RNG and some runs will yield 0 ashes, but don't let that discourage you into wasting your time outdoors.

Kommentar von Maritas

This is only for the people who really REALLY want the pet. As for Neltharus, if you have crap RNG (like me) you'll run into you've entered too many instances. The drop rate for the Smoldering Phoenix Ash is just plain awful.

Kommentar von joshim1185

Hey all,

By far, the easiest way to get this is to be in a low-pop server. By the time you finish grabbing them from the phoenixes around Dragonbane Keep, they've already respawned.

Kommentar von SFFCorgi

After immense frustration with both the low drop rate and trying to farm the Obsidian Citadel with a non-Plate iLevel lower than 430, I found that Scalecracker Keep is indeed a much less stress-inducing farming area. To ease the grind on anyone else following after me, I present suggested landing spots to cycle between for maximum phoenix access. (Forget Neltharus.)

The phoenixes in flight were all determined to be 'within Druid reach' (moonfire) -- but might be problematic for Evokers.

'Phoenix Rock' /way #2022 64.49, 29.09 - About seven birds on the rock, one may be circling overhead; don't kill the big ones or the hatchlings, they won't help. Thank you previous commenters for this location!
'Rock Across from Phoenix Rock' /way #2022 62.92, 30.22 - single bird sitting
'Tent Anchor Rock' /way #2022 67.34, 28.05 - one settled on point of rock, two or three circling.
Please be aware that if you reach the two phoenixes who hang out on the tent itself, that they WILL fall through to inside and be impossible to reach before the Smoldering Feathers spawn new birds.
'Obsidian Hornswog Falls' /way #2022 68.23, 29.35 Slightly out of reach from the Tent Anchor Rock waypoint but just downhill from it, there's two more phoenixes circling over the lava outflow from the falls.
'High Rock' /way #2022 66.03, 23.88 - three phoenixes circling
Edited to add: Credit to sippycup back in April who noticed that under 'High Rock', which does look rather like a claw (or maybe even a roaring drake), there's a whole literal nest of four phoenixes which I'd missed before.
'Lava Vent' /way #2022 62.88, 24.37 - three phoenixes who circle over the lava. This is an awkward spot and may have line of sight issues for shorter races. Also, the dead birds might fall through the rock. Yay, bounding boxes.
'Yet Another Rock' /way #2022 64.05, 32.48 - single bird sitting
'Here There Be Spiders' Part 1 /way #2022 69.90, 32.14 - single bird circling
'Here There Be Spiders' Part 2 /way #2022 70.72, 30.47 - three birds circling. Landing may be finicky.
'Entrance Outcrop' /way #2022 61.94, 35.32 - single bird sitting

Kommentar von Emmett

Rarity string, at 4% drop rate for each mob:

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

Kommentar von VLKious

This is a horrible, horrible drop rate! The only, somewhat redeeming factor is that these birds are skinnable so do this farming on a skinner! I have almost 200 pieces of leather now - zero Smoldering Phoenix Ash but lots of leather.

Kommentar von Nicholas0606

Don't know what everyone else experienced, but it seems to me that at the very least Smoldering Phoenix Ash won't drop at all in a party. I did the Neltharius method, got 3 in the first two runs, called in my buddy to make it faster. Proceeded to get 0 after like six runs, dropped group to test if that was the problem, and got one on my next run before getting instance locked.

Obviously due to the drop rate it's certainly possible it's only a coincidence, but he didn't get a single one either. So I'm suspicious that you can't do that step at the very least while grouped.

Kommentar von debzta

Does anyone know if they drop off the Phoenix's over in the Emerald Dream? Where the 'Reverie of Battle' quest is.

Kommentar von lithiumburrito

Credit to SFFCorgi--wowhead won't allow me to post this in a reply to their comment, I just wanted to make it easier to copy/paste into a macro.

/way #2022 64.49 29.09
/way #2022 62.92 30.22
/way #2022 67.34 28.05
/way #2022 68.23 29.35
/way #2022 66.03 23.88
/way #2022 62.88 24.37
/way #2022 64.05 32.48
/way #2022 69.90 32.14
/way #2022 70.72 30.47
/way #2022 61.94 35.32

Kommentar von drpimento

things like this, I don't sweat. If I get them, cool; if not, no sweat. Only thing is - in this expac, there're sooo many different items for sooo many different goals - too much. Overwhelming. BS fatigue.

Kommentar von Restomage

As of 1/31/2024 After 40 kills at the location nearest Griftah I received 0 Ash, but managed to collect all 20 feathers fairly quickly.

I switched to the Neltharus method and I received 14 in 10 runs (hitting the hourly cap) - 0 - 2 - 2 - 4 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 3 - 1 - 0. I should also note that I missed 4-5 birds on the first 3 runs lol. I can confirm that the feathers also still spawn in the dungeon. As a 484 brewmaster the runs took roughly 2-3 minutes each. Watch out for the Qalashi Hunter "Binding spear", it's a 10 second incap that can still easily get you killed.

I killed another ~30 or so outside to receive the last ash (and first outside of the dungeon...)

Kommentar von estarianne

This is what follower dungeons are made for, but I'm not sure it drops in follower dungeons.

edit: They do! And the added bonus, besides having a tank and some extra bad dps (and a healer, although I'm playing in heal spec), is that you can just exit the instance when you're done and requeue without having to run out!

This worked well, it took me about 15 runs to get 12 ash, with each run taking 3-4 minutes.

Kommentar von Linguist

This drop rate should be illegal. However, with the release of follower dungeons there is at least a way to make the farm more efficient. I like to farm these at the same time as Inaktive Phönixasche, so I just do follower dungeons for Neltharus in the downtime waiting for the elementals in Un'Goro to respawn. You can even put on the Aschefederamulett, as the Aschefeder will spawn both in Un'Goro as well as inside Neltharus.

Kommentar von foodgoddess

This is maddening and the worst quest ever. I have been at the smolderimg ash 2 days now and only have 7 . If I didn't want the pet so bad I would trash this and not trash Blizzard for the horrible drop rate. We have lives ya know
finally got the pet, I will not be doing it again lol

Kommentar von oloklo

Hot to farm this cr@p:
Step 0 (optional): pick either a stealth class (mage counts) or a very movile class
Step 1: Queu for Follower dungeon Neltharus
Step 2: Run all they way up to the first boss (not including him) leaving the bots behind and then run back towards your team.
Step 3: AoE and loot
Step 4: leave instance and repeat

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